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In Frieren episode 11, Winter in the Northern Lands, Fern does not care at all about Elven extinction.

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M2GZ

I know you have a full schedule as of late but you should really watch s2 of a invincible this seasons been amazing, it’s 8 eps like the first season and imo it’s even better than s1.

agoodwintv

You're right, I've been thinking about changing from what I originally had planned... I'm in Tokyo until Sunday but I will probably announce something next week

M2GZ

Perfect No stress 😄 take your time, just letting you know how good it’s cooking👌

Alter Nate

Kraft called Frieren young at 20:57, which begs the question, how old is this dude. That also brings up the question of the average life span of elves. We only have two sample points for now, but I wonder how young or old Frieren is compared to the median age. Also, taking this into account, as well as his comment that everyone that knew of his great/heroic deeds being dead, Kraft’s desperation for heaven and the goddess to exist makes a lot of sense. I wonder if Frieren will ever get to the point where she sees a possible salvation in an afterlife. Thus far she accepts it as a concept for the sake of convenience, as Eisen or Hieter would call it, but I wonder how things will change for her over time.

Arakis

The pendants are just major house insignia. Also, the victory didn't come at a huge cost. Only 5-6 people died, the graf's bodyguards and the prison guard. You can't include the corpses of those that had died in previous battles unrelated to this one. It's not appeal to authority. You're not allowed to drive if you don't have a driver's license. But a driver's license doesn't mean you are better at driving than someone without. It's about bureaucracy and following the rules. The elves don't seem to necessarily live alongside humans or in human settlements. If Craft hasn't met another elf in 300 years, it might be he hasn't met a human in 100 years. Frieren's name became "famous" (only alongside Himmel's) only about 80 years ago. In ep1, we see Frieren spend 50 years with very little human contact. Last episode, we learned than in the past 1000 years (between Flamme and Himmel) she was actively hiding from the world. I wouldn't be surprised if the only thing Craft knows is that someone named Himmel killed the Demon King some time ago. "Carbuncle?" Heeeeeeeeeyyyyyy :)

Douglas Davis

Great reactions. Has anyone told you that all the characters names are also German words and have meaning to their characters? Like Himmel means heaven/sky. In episode 7 when Frieren tells Stark that they are going heaven it pans to the sky signifying they are going to Himmel. Lots of fantastic details like that in this series. Very hyped for the next one, it is my favorite episode.

Rekway

At least if nothing else we got confirmation that Frieren is not the last elf

agoodwintv

I have a feeling she's supposed to be on the young side just based on her development and how that would correlate to a normal lifespan

bl0odm1st

Add Kraft to the list of characters voiced by Takehito Koyasu along with Zeke, Toji, Dio, & Papa Shirogane.

Brandon Rowe

I think its personal life stuff for ya, cause I don't believe the show or the characters have portrayed their desires as looking towards life in heaven over living in the present. Besides Frieren, the older elf Kraft and other characters are living life and enjoying it.

agoodwintv

I think it's the idea of needing an afterlife to make sense of the meaning of one's life or legacy, for example his and Heiter's wanting to be rewarded by the goddess for their deeds. In Kraft's case specifically, it sounded to me like a plea or fear as opposed to something he felt resolute about in his current lifespan

agoodwintv

And then, characters aside, I like the afterlife-as-legacy idea, but don't like the idea that the afterlife is THE point of ones being or actions or THE thing to look forward to.

Ryan

I think it's interesting / telling that the show just says "okay, we spent 6 months together in close quarters in a cabin over the winter training. Not really worth more than half an episode. Moving on." It's very much the perspective of an elf. If this were Haikyuu, that's basically 2 full seasons, or in My Hero Academia, possibly even more.

SirLagginton

One thing that makes me nauseous is that Kraft calls Frieren young, and we’ve already seen her lose so much. I can’t imagine the life of an elf.

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

I love how positive this story treats the church/religion and the priests themselves. In lots of anime the Church/Priests are usually villains, evil, cultish, etc. and in modern western media religion is almost always either ignored or shown in a negative light.

Oak

“You can read the Bible and not be Christian”. You saying that reminded me of one of my favorite scenes from Vinland Saga, where Thorfinn is listening to Snake read the Bible. Having friends/family that are either very religious or not religious at all is likely a common situation for a lot of people. Not being religious myself, it’s been interesting to observe how different people view religion. Much like you talked about, I’ve come to find that certain parts of religion can have a positive effect on life, whether you’re religious or not. That’s something both Thorfinn and Frieren share, and I think both shows do a great job of displaying that.

Daniel Cunningham

Every so often, I go to a cafe, set out a chess board, and invite anyone who would like to play and or talk about their life while I study for personal growth. More often than not, someone heavily religious will approach me and proselytize me. While I understand where their heart is and understand their intentions, it's rather difficult for me to not feel an intuitive flash of disgust. An apt thought might be, "How dare you disregard or have little to no respect for my own views. Why does your faith/ truth completely dominate my (or anyone else's) view of the world?" While I try to more familiarize myself with religious texts (because I gain a lot of insight and structure in my own world view due to fundamental principles of multiple religions), I find it increasingly challenging to stay motivated due to those who vehemently practice it. I wouldn't call it an ill view towards the religion so much as an exhaustive view towards its followers. In recent months, I've been noticing a growing fear of "eternal damnation" or suffering for all eternity due to the decisions made in an ephemeral life. I've had questions of, "Should I abandon my own beliefs so I don't have to suffer later? Is sacrificing everything I've built for myself in terms of my values, ethics, and principles worth being 'saved'? Who am I if not what I've built for myself? Could I exist in a realm where I'm not me?" etc. Out of fear, I've even spoken out loud that I would convert or would accept the consequences of not believing (being the vacillate man I am in this regard). I'm fortunate to have been surrounded by those who love or care for me much of my life and many of them have attempted to convert me for my safety. While I struggle to shake the feeling of being terrified of the unknown after death, I find solace in your world view of doing the absolute best you can to contribute authentic goodness to the world. In stoicism, there's an idea that there is only one true good and one true evil in the world, moral virtue and moral vice, everything else is a preferred indifferent. While I think there might be a couple pitfalls in that, I like the pith of it which can be correlated to your talking points of universal will and objective good and evil. I have no idea what lies beyond our time in this physical world, and while I have the utmost respect for those who live their lives in faith, I've come to my present view of doing everything I can to contribute to the world in the most uplifting and positive way possible; to be the highest possible version of myself. Again, it's still hard for me to shake the feeling of fear, but to have faith in my own ability to produce good is what is true for me currently. I believe this is the best I can do for myself and I just want to thank you for your unintentional reassurance that I can still produce genuine good for myself and humanity without losing myself (and everything I've built for myself) in another group's principles, dogma, ethics, values, community, etc.

agoodwintv

Nicely said! And thank you for saying so. My father once said, "I don't have all the answers, but I'm old enough to know nobody else does either." I think at heart, and to try to take the highest level of the argument, we're all looking for something like "truth." To that end, there are "many roads, one path," or many different sources or "faiths" one can use to try to begin conceptualizing things like meaning, right and wrong, and ourselves in relation to reality. I think what instinctively ruffles feathers is when any particular APPROACH to truth is mistaken for the truth itself. Of the people in my life with whom I talk to about these things, those who are most vehemently opposed to religion often cite as their reason the exact type of proselytizing you described, as opposed to the grander ideas or spiritual pursuit. Like with many things, I think the scale for me has become less about the stated denomination or label or field and more about questions like Is the argument being made in good faith? Is truth and understanding the objective, or is it something like imposing conformity? Is there a general good will towards others in discussion? What's the overall goal?