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Queendom 2 Episode 4 (Patreon)

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2022-04-24 07:52:03
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2023-08-06 00:30:49
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Nia Patton

I know i am late to this post but is the video supposed to be only 2 hours long because it gets cut off for the rest of the show. It was like that for the other eps aswell. Just a little curiosity i had.

Devin McGinty

Ok so I feel the same way. As a super LOONA Stan, I love So What and did not at all love the arrangement or performance Hyolyn did for it. But she has pipes, and I think she’s the 2nd best vocalist on the show besides Minyoung from Brave Girls. No doubt Hyolyn has those vocals and she’s so good at it. As a newish (2 yrs) Kpop fan, I never heard the original Navillera before, but I loved WJSNs version. I have since listed to both and I like both, but prefer WJSNs version for my personal style. I continue to fall more in love with Eunha from Viviz, and need to never see her cry again. Excited to see more of her. I went back to discover Gfriend now because I’m liking Viviz and their songs. Even tho I Stan Loona, My objective ranking for Round 2 is: — 1) Loona 2) WJSN 3) Brave Girls 4) Viviz 5) Hyloyn 6) Kep1er

R NeverL

This isn't a criticism of any group, because I think the groups are really coming up with some pretty creative ideas... But am I the only one that thinks the stages for these preliminary stages are too big? I realize Queendom is a great opportunity to have creative stages that you won't see anywhere else, but some of these preliminary stages are trying to be as ambitious as the performances in the finale of Season 1. Kind of like... trying to feed someone the main course during appetizers. It just feels like groups don't have the time to properly prepare for some of the really great ideas they're having. I feel if Mnet had a smaller stage design in the first three preliminary rounds, then groups could focus on doing smaller, but more cohesive performances and ramp up towards the finale. Ideally, every group should have a better performance than their last.

KpopPrince
>>82641632

A lot of ya didn't watch Kingdom, which Q2 is very tame in comparison. Imo this is a perfect blend between the two. Kpop moves fast and I think a lot has changed since 2019 to capture the attention of global audiences. Kingdom was very overkill with the props and different levels to stages.

Neeeenzzzz

feel like post production is making the performances feel a little flat, like the official versions are way more engineered than the full versions on the actual stream but also there’s something going on with the sound production, you’re right though, like the talking/behind the scenes segments and voting parts are the most entertaining parts, I can’t put my finger on why the staging and everything just feels a little off, I adore all the groups (maybe not kep1er, because I just don’t vibe with them in general) but something is making it feel a little flat especially if you compare the stages to Queendom 1 I’m just not sure why these otherwise beastly performers just don’t seem like the beasts they are. I do however think Brave girls are getting such harsh results, I mean they didn’t perform bad enough to place 6th

seekified

I think everything's been said already, but again my ranking is: 1 LOONA 2 WJSN 3 Brave Girls 4 Hyolyn 5-6 Viviz/Kep1er So yeah, I agree that Hyolyn's arrangement/mix just really wasn't it, but the other aspects of her performance made up for it a bit more for me than it seems they did for you. 😂 I also thought WJSN's Navillera was great, even though there were a couple of minor things that could be improved and it not hitting as hard as As You Wish. Anyway, really looking forward to the retreat and unit episodes, that stuff was fantastic last season.

Anonymous

1. HyoIyn 2. Loona 3. Kelpler 4. WJSN 5. Brave Girls 6. Viviz I thought Hyolyn's performance was head and shoulders above every one else, with only Loona really in the same league. The rest of the performances were all about equal in my eyes, and i enjoyed them all. So it was tough to rank them,

R NeverL

Ok, I just finished. Random thoughts that I'll put in multiple posts: --- The cameras LOVE Minnie. Surprising to me because they didn't focus that much on Miyeon, who went viral on this episode for being so pretty, and Yuqi, who is a variety show queen. --- "The points don't matter. We know there are politics." --- I agree, however, there's an Elimination Rule if you place last in back-to-back performances. For Brave Girls, who have put together 2 very solid performances, I can totally see them being a middle-of-the-road team, but being eliminated because they just don't have the popularity.

R NeverL
>>82693438

--- JUDGING: Agreed. If you want a more fair competition, you get qualified judges. In American programs, while it's still not a perfect solution, there are some shows that use celebrity judges. Of course... the allure of Korean competition shows, and largely, the K-Pop industry as a whole, is that fan participation and connectivity is huge. I'm sure the voting is always going to be this format. I can live with it if they just get rid of the Elimination Rule. For a group like Brave Girls, who really, are here to gain exposure... getting eliminated is just hugely demoralizing.

R NeverL
>>82693438

--- THE DIFFICULTY OF GRADING: To be honest, in watching Queendom S1 and this season... It's just hard to objectively grade things. How would I grade and rank a younger Kep1er vs. older groups with more mature concepts? How do we grade and rank a soloist vs. a 12 member group? It's a really subjective exercise. Largely, in watching this season and S1 of Queendom, I find that there haven't been BAD performances... it's just that every round, there's usually one or two performances that really stick out, and then we nitpick the remaining ones. --- MORE ON GRADING: The other thing I point out is that there's differences between audiences. We have a live studio audience that was probably blown away by Hyolyn's live vocals vs. the viewers that watch at home. There's a difference between the international audience vs. the Korean audience... we all look for different things.

R NeverL
>>82693438

--- HYOLYN's PERFORMANCE: I think the idea of a soloist on these shows is cool, but it creates a really WEIRD dynamic when it comes to voting. I found that Park Bom in S1 wasn't ready for such a competition, so her seniority only got her out of being last place. But for Hyolyn, her presence as a STRONG soloist helps her out in the end. As a person who doesn't really know these groups that well, it's all a blur when I see so many different groups across 3 hours worth of episodes. By the end of it, I only remember the basic concepts of each performance. Hyolyn being a powerful vocalist, having strong stage presence, and her intro resonated very clearly in mind. Plus she also went last. I can totally see why she's scoring very highly. But yeah... All in all, Hyolyn, LOONA, Brave Girls, and Kep1er all stuck out to me in different ways.

R NeverL
>>82641632

Yeah, I've just seen the stage that Miyeon guest-appeared on. I got the sense it was really over the top. These shows are so fun. But some of the flaws and dynamics of it make for a weird experience. I hope that if they do do future seasons of this, they should really reconsider the things that make the show work and not work.

Neeeenzzzz
>>82650376

Also, I’m totally falling head over heels for Brave girls, I also think it’s dumb that they don’t have to vote for someone above them,

Stanley Maximillian

not gonna lie, this is the most hilarious reaction to this episode hahahhahaa

Kris

My rank this ep: 1 - WJSN 2 - LOONA 3 - Brave Girls 4 - Viviz 5 - Kep1er 6 - Hyolyn For the LOONA performance, I did love the story, it was really close for my #1 and #2 place but I did not like the song. WJSN I enjoyed both song and performance so it pushed them to my #1. I thought Hyolyn was ok but for me this stage set up and choreo did not work well for a solo. There were a few too many walking this way and that way in my opinion. There was a comment that Hyolyn was performing for the live audience and not necessarily the camera and that is a good point. There was probably great audience connection moving around the stage set up, but for watching on the screen it felt like. walk here.. do a thing.. walk there.. do a thing.. etc there was a lot of comparisons to some performances that felt like "special stages" and this one felt like that to me. I didn't mind the song but maybe because I don't know the orignal. for context the only song I knew from any group for Q2 was Wadada and i wasn't wearing it out on repeat to put it nicely so I feel like at least I'm unbiased coming in as I know none of the groups, but of course this is all just my own opinion.

Cassandra J.
>>82650376

I'm falling down the brave girls hole too, I have now gone into watching their variety stuff, which is not nearly enough.

Anonymous

hyolyn's was my second favorite (loona being first) but i also don't know the original song as well? so i liked her arrangement of it, it seemed to suit her! but if you know the song really well, i can see how it might not measure up to what you expect!

socks

Oh man, gonna put my 2 cents in here even if you might be over it by now lol Hyolyn. Oof. Okay. So, the thing about her performance wasn't the arrangement. That's the catalyst of why you hate it so much, right? No matter how much the arrangement may not have worked, the way she presented it is what gets the audience. Her stage presence compounded by her killer vocals was enough for everyone to just be hyped and enjoy that stage with her. I wasn't surprised when the live audience voted her, I'm more so surprised the global evaluators did because that energy never translates the same through the screen (and yeah, watching the episode, I had the fleeting thought that she was walking a lot, but that became less prominent as she sang and hyped the crowd and did what performers do. And man, is she a performer!) (That said, DEFINITELY not better than Touch My Body) Now logically, for these first 2 rounds, Hyolyn had the benefit of the 2nd vote. If any fandom was thinking strategically and to avoid giving "free" votes to other groups, the "safest" bet is Hyolyn (plus they could genuinely also have enjoyed that performance given how high energy and how it was the last performance giving it a boost to linger more in their mind.) I mean, just saying. The atmosphere in that room must've felt HUGE and Hyolyn would've been the cause of it. (I'll just use Q1 as an example with Mamamoo ranking high with Destiny (and Good Luck cover) even though some people argue it wasn't as great as some others from the finale. People from that audience have said that MMM's interactions with the crowd had everyone hyped. And that was enough.) That said, I agree with a lot of what you said overall. About everything. Almost. Minus Brave Girls. That stage was SO GOOD. The story, the vocals, the illusions? That shit is my jam. I genuinely had it up in the higher tiers of my ranks but definitely understand why the live audience didn't vote. Because of the tricks and magic, a large portion of the stage had a camera blocking everything from view. Unfortunate, but here's hoping they don't get eliminated Round 3. (Out of all the groups, Mnet could definitely get away with doing it to BG ngl) EDIT: If you're a douche about Hyolyn's So What, I'm an outright douche about Rollin. It's been performed 3 times now, if I'm not mistaken! UGH. Even when it went viral. No thanks. The only thing I can ever like about that song is the opportunity it gave BG.

Sarah Batt

can someone recommend "After We Ride" to Prince please cuz, it's such a good song after we ride

MizterxC

Lmao the fact that you claim this is all "your opinion" and you are being "objective" you really sure are talking mad shit to everyone who actually disagrees with you and has an "objectively" different opinion from you, you are basically saying "we dont share the same opinion so you are wrong"

KpopPrince
>>86187416

You sound pressed. Literally everything you'll ever see me do on my channel is my opinion, my guy. That's what reaction channels are. Fine if you disagree!