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Adding support for clubs turned out to be quite a challenge and quite a disappointment. There's a lot that I wanted to implement around clubs but unfortunately, the possibilities are limited and I don't want to introduce new hard overrides to the game. What has been done in this update is the best that can be done and where there are more possibilities for new club activities, club perks and other club functions are unreachable.

With the introduction of clubs support, especially the sex-related activities, a new sex location recognition had to be implemented as well. The main differences are new types of location recognition, recognition of objects outside but within the lot, improved tagging of rooms, and a fallback system for picking a location that makes the whole system more reliable. Where Sims decide to have sex might be very different now and require tweaking when it goes against any logic.

In the next two weeks, an update to the game will be released that will most likely break a ton of mods which might very well end up with a lot of hard crashes. I don't know how it will affect WickedWhims but I want you to be aware that things will very much explode.

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  • Added Get Together Expansion clubs support (expansion is not required to use WickedWhims)
You don't gain access to clubs without the 'Get Together' expansion but you are not required to own the expansion to use the mod.
  • Added 'Embrace Nudity' club activity
    • Sims during the club gathering will be a lot more open to undressing and try to undress when possible
    • Sims during the club gathering will talk about nudity and convince other Sims to nudity
    • Sims during the club gathering are accepting of each other's nudity
    • Sims during the club gathering have a chance to gain the 'Brave Nudity' hidden moodlet
    • Sims during the club gathering gain points from social nudity related interactions and from other Sims reacting to nudity
    • Added 'Embrace Nudity Club Autonomy' setting to 'Nudity Occurrence Specifics'
Sims that Embrace Nudity will focus on undressing and talking about nudity with other Sims. This not only gains points for the club but affects Sims outside the club, increasing their nudity skill. Club gatherings at a public lot might be a good way to affect visiting Sims with the idea of getting naked as well.
  • Added 'Flash' club activity
    • Requires club members to have the 'Exhibitionist' trait to participate
    • Sims during the club gathering will look for targets to flash that are not club members (unless the club member is not an exhibitionist)
    • Sims during the club gathering gain points from flashing interactions and from other Sims reacting to nudity
    • Added 'Flash Club Autonomy' setting to 'Nudity Occurrence Specifics'
Sims in a club oriented around flashing will... flash. This obviously won't work if a Sim doesn't have the Exhibitionist trait. In the future, there is a possibility of introducing autonomy for peeing on the spot as well. Get naked and flash to gain points.
  • Added 'Have Sex' club activity
    • Sims during the club gathering will attempt to have a lot of sex
    • Sims during the club gathering have a higher chance of accepting sex propositions from Sims outside the club
    • Sims during the club gathering have a very high chance of accepting sex propositions from Sims inside the club
    • Sims during the club gathering are neutral to seeing other Sims having sex
    • Allows to target everyone, age groups, and specific clubs
    • Added 'Club Sex Switch' setting to 'Sex Autonomy Specifics'
Having a sex club is the most overpowered way to encourage Sims into having sex with almost anybody. Not only the chances of Sims accepting are high but the possibility of sex occurring is even higher. Remember though, Sims can still get jealous even when in a sex club! Have sex, have points.
  • Added 'Have Sex (Swinging)' club activity
    • Same rules apply as for the 'Have Sex' club activity
    • Sims during the club gathering have a further increased chance of accepting sex propositions from Sims inside the club
    • Sims during the club gathering will avoid having sex with their partners
Don't want jealousy in your sex club? Try making a swingers club! Not only Sims are even more willing to accept sex propositions, they will specifically target Sims that they don't have a relationship with.
  • Reworked sex autonomy location recognition
    • Made location styles divided into Public, Outdoors, Risky, Comfortable and Private
    • Made location picking more open to risky situations and less likely to fail
    • Added unlikely locations consideration (for example kitchens at restaurants for clients)
  • Added 'Block Around Children Switch' setting to 'Sex Autonomy Specifics'
Clubs meant that a better way of detecting locations had to be introduced and with that, I took my time making something flexible. Locations, especially rooms, can now be tagged with "room traits" that determine the room type, entrances count, size, sims and children count, preferred objects and a few other minor details. This allows determining the location style which is picked based on Sims current situation. Both the style and available locations look for a match and try to improvise when one is not found to end up with a result.
Sims can now determine if a location is risky but that doesn't have to stop them from using it. Objects that are outside but inside the lot boundaries can now be used as well. Some specific locations can be considered unlikely because they are stupidly risky. It is a lot more likely Sims will end up with a location because of compromise, when a risky location is not found, let's look for a comfortable one instead. Making the location recognition system more clear and flexible is a great step forward for improving the quality of how sex autonomy works in general.
  • Made Pee on the Spot interactions allowed indoors
  • Added angry reaction from seeing Sims pee on the spot indoors
Want to pee on your neighbor's bed? You can now do it. Just.. just do it. Come on. I know you want it. You know it will make him furious. It's better than fucking his wife. You know he actually likes that, right? She's such a slut. She doesn't really love him. She must be with him because of his money, there is no other way. No wonder he's such a prick. He didn't even invite you to his last party. It was just a bunch of old men. What's with that? Who just invites a bunch of old men to a pool party? That doesn't make any sense... Anyway, just pee on his bed already.
  • Made clicking on clutter objects that are on surfaces not display the 'Wicked' pie menu
Hate clicking on a plate to clean it up and seeing the 'Wicked' pie menu for no real reason? Not a problem anymore.
  • Made 'Birth Control Automatic Use' setting enabled by default
The main reason behind enabling the auto use of birth control is how new users learn the gameplay mechanics. When you first start, even if you give your Sims birth control, you might not realize that when any autonomy sex occurs, they won't use it on their own and you have to do it yourself. Because you most likely won't think about it, boom, she's pregnant. Having it enabled by default is a lot better for newcomers to learn about the mod mechanics. It's not about it being easier, it's about a better learning curve.
  • Made exhibitionist Sims react to nudity positively by default
  • Made using the mirror to increase Naturism skill faster for the first level when at home
  • Made undressing autonomy have a random chance of undressing bottom first instead of always top
  • Fixed issues with dressing up after using a toilet, peeing on the spot, and breastfeeding
  • Reduced skin tones details to improve quality after compression
  • Added support for MiniGiles CAS content


  • +131.1 Added a 30 in-game minutes cooldown after declining an autonomy sex proposition before the next one is allowed


  • +131.2 Made clubs with multiple activities less crazy about sex



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Simshistorias

Hi Turbodriver! How couls my Sim pee in outdoors? I can't find this option. Thanks in advance!

wickedwoohoo

Hey! The bladder need has to be low enough. It has to be in red for non-exhibitionist Sims and in yellow for exhibitionist Sims.

Udakhara

Thanks for this nice update. Hope you, Nisa and Basemental (and the other modders) wont have too much work to fix your mods when season come. Good luck with it

Nick Bauman

You must really not like your neighbors to want to pee on their beds so badly. That's awesome. You stay you.

peter piper

I always have problems installing this mod,,,,,keeps saying files are missing and to extract all files

Anonymous

So pretty much a few tweaks to what I can already do with clubs and wicked whims. Took a whole month to tweak some shit. Again. You need some competition. You’re sitting there making over $12 thousand a month to tweak your mod? More likely to accept propositions? There is a switch for that. Come on. Oh now I can pee inside? What does that have to do with sex? Ya didn’t make it where you could pee on your partners. Unless I missed that? If anyone out there actually wants to make an awesome sex mod, that delivers hard work towards giving people the options Kinkyworld has for ts3. I would happily donate $10 a month. Turbo has sold out. He’s sitting pretty barely producing shit, hardly communicating and sharing with us, not worried. Someone needs to make him sweat. I won’t be back next month unless he gives us something worth while by June 30th... but he’s already started making complaints about the work needed when seasons is released. So I won’t hold my breath. Some animators appear to work harder than you at this point and don’t make a fraction of what you do. It appears you’ve lost your passion, so stop ripping people off and be upfront about what you’re actually willing to do and how much time you’re willing to work to make it happen. Another dissapointing update after another long wait with minimal communication from you. Not that my opinion matters.

Anonymous

Hey there, just wanted to let you know I got an exception file and I read through it (im starting to be able to understand all the mumbo jumbo that it creates) and it says it is specific to Wicked Whims. I wasn't even using any of the wicked options when it came up. It literally came up after 15minutes when I went into build mode. let me know if you want to have the exception file as it is to do with this release on patreon. I do have the link for pastebin but I did read that not to post the content of the file so let me know if you want it and I can email it. Love your work though

Anonymous

Hi! Always thanks for your update! I'm just wondering, is it normal that penis is gone while sims taking a shower or a bath? I remember it appeared before...

wickedwoohoo

Ha! I guess it was just a random thought but yeah, I know a few that would deserve that. Thanks :D

wickedwoohoo

Hey! It's very possible that the installer is not the best for all computers or it's the fault of the archive manager. I would always recommend installing files manually but so far I haven't found any clear issues with the installer to fix anything. The main purpose of the installer was to help users who are completely new to this and would not know how to properly install WW, and you can easily do it wrong. Looks like you can manage without it though :)

wickedwoohoo

Hey! No, it should be there. It's very possible the bathing outfit wasn't updated or was overridden by the game or other mod. Try following this instruction: <a href="https://wickedwhimsmod.com/outfit-issues/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wickedwhimsmod.com/outfit-issues/</a>

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Totally, send it to me, I will help you understand it further since you seem interested into being able to read them :) Just post the link to pastebin, don't have to email it.

Anonymous

Hey, maybe im late, I try to keep up. but is it possible, that there can be like medicine to help cramps for women? the in game medicine doesn't work lol.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Definitely! The assets for new menstrual cycle content are really close to be done and painkillers will be introduced with many improvements to the menstrual cycle. For now you would need to use birth control pills.

DeliaDeetz

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! You implemented nearly everything I have been asking for in this update! The sex club interactions is amazing. They seriously go at it! And I really appreciate the option for autonomy only when children are off lot. So when my couple have days off while the kids are at school they can catch up on...uh..their favorite tv shows :D

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Thank You! :D I'm still adjusting how clubs work with the feedback I got so they aren't so insane if you have multiple activities.

Anonymous

I was waiting for this update for so long. Thank you)

PoseidonXcomics

Been requesting for clubs for a while, and now its here! thanks so much Turbo!!

BlackPiano

A bit off topic, but I have a quick question: Is there a way in XML that I can tell a lot trait for dress code to apply to a secondary outfit or other? For example, I have a sim with 5 Everyday outfits. When they go home I would not only like them to change into their Everyday outfit but I would like them to change into Everyday outfit #2.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I don't think I can help you but I'm pretty sure you can do a lot trait that does that. Consider checking out the MCCC Discord, there are few creators there and there is a chance they might have time to help you with this. :D

DeliaDeetz

Hey Turbo! Did you know that if you take your "sex club" to a public venue that regular townies will also join in the sexual festivities? Please don't change that! lol Not sure about the exhibitionism stuff yet, still working on making the nudist spa but a trip to the local club turned into one hell of a wild night! lol

Datmanv

Turbo, my man, are we ever getting new intros, just asking cause I don't like the fact sims fuse together before sex. Will we be getting one off our famous animators to create you some intro and work on how climax completes the sex progression? my sims keeps pop in random locations when they finish having sex.

Mike24

Great update Turbo!! I was waiting for club features in WW, thanks!!

wickedwoohoo

Hey! If you make the club interact with 'Everyone' then any Sim gets a slight boost to accepting sex which makes it happen like this. Not planning to change it. :D

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Where intros can be added, they wouldn't really remove the requirement of fusing Sims together. The reason they do it is to reset them as an object and clear all of the remaining data that could be problematic during a running animation. Any stuck interactions, tasks, attached elements or currently running animations have to be cleared and blocked. Now, it's possible to reduce this process to minimum and still have it working. Even the reset they go through right now is a modified by me version that is a soft reset. Doing a reset is just more reliable than trying to deal with every small element that could be a problem. It's just really hard. There are soooo many things that affect Sims and anybody having problems with it in the future would be a pain to debug.

Anonymous

what is minigiles cas content?

Anonymous

Thanks for the work Turbo. The club features can get interesting :)

wickedwoohoo

Hey, there it is: <a href="https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5993-lovebelow-skyrimfantansies-vertical-diphallia/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5993-lovebelow-skyrimfantansies-vertical-diphallia/</a> <a href="https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5940-lovebelow-skyrimfantansies-diphallia/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5940-lovebelow-skyrimfantansies-diphallia/</a>

Jamie C.

Hey Turbo thanks for making sims 4 a great game bro! only weird issue i ran into was dual wicked whims menus ill post a screen pic when i get home. But yea kinda weird. I usually delete the old wicked whims and replace it with the updated one but now i have two menus.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Sounds like you have WickedWhims installed twice. Look around for any TS4SCRIPT files.

Katchioga Bediako

After the update, I got a last exception during "extreme violence" interaction, and the pop-up said to contact you... preach.

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Aren't I so nice? It can be any mod that breaks your game but I allow people to come to me :D You should follow this instruction as well: <a href="https://wickedwhimsmod.com/exception/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wickedwhimsmod.com/exception/</a>

DeliaDeetz

Hey Turbo, Sorry for bugging you again but I do have a question. For vaginal sex, when it's initiated by me manually and I hit the random option, I don't get random results. It starts with the same animation every single time and has been doing that for as long as I can remember. Is there a fix for that?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! It all depends on the number of available animations. And it's unlikely Sims would go from Vaginal back to Handjob/Oraljob but it's possible. If a random animation isn't found then you're informed about it but if the same one is picked then it stays. I can do it so that the same one isn't possible to be picked again.

DeliaDeetz

I have over 1000 animations. I am not trying to change animation categories, just not use the same animation for vaginal random every single time no matter what I am doing. Vaginal --&gt; Random for me is the only one that does this. Everything else randomizes just fine. :)

Tlove

Thanks for the release and update! You're amazing!

wickedwoohoo

That's odd, there is already a thing in place that prevents that from happening. I'm not sure if I can do anything about it.

Anonymous

hey Turbo, I saw some sweat overlays on LL the other day and thought maybe if you're done with the big features and have some time let the game apply the sweat overlay when exercising but most importantly when having sex

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Sweat you say? I haven't thought about that. Maybe, that could be pretty cool, I mean hot. I will consider it, thanks!

cktheo

I just wanted to thank you for this update. The club feature wasn't something that interested me before, but now... It's 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Anonymous

Not sure if I'm doing this right, but I got a LE <a href="https://pastebin.com/xc4jpm8j" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/xc4jpm8j</a>

Martin VG

What an update! Thanks a lot!

Martin VG

BTW, you never cease to impress us haha.

cktheo

Hey Turbo, I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong. The auto use of birth control - I had the box unchecked in the pregnancy settings as I don't want auto use of birth control but I don't think it's working as I noticed that she auto used birth control without actually having any in her inventory. Am I doing something wrong?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Looks like removal of a moodlet from a Sim caused an action to trigger that couldn't be done because it was incorrectly written. I would assume this is a moodlet made by a mod and I doubt this has anything to do with WickedWhims since I rarely use this sort of thing. You would need to look into mods that you recently installed to figure this one out, there isn't enough information for me to tell you what it is. I would guess it's a custom trait. Errors include the words "Loot_KnowTrait_Lazy".

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Who is using birth control? A Player Sim or an NPC Sim? That setting applies to Player Sims and there is a separate setting for NPC Sims.

Lady L

Hey i was wondering that is there a way you can make wickedwhims more like kinkyworld was in the sims 3?

Anonymous

Hi! I got this lastexception.txt file and it says Wicked Whims is the issue (?) Thanks for the help! <a href="https://pastebin.com/rdfchjYT" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/rdfchjYT</a>

wickedwoohoo

Hey! No, there's nothing related to WickedWhims in it. Your issue is an outdated mod you installed that overrides the 'LTR_Friendship_Main' relationship statistic. Most likely some sort of a custom trait.

Anonymous

Anyone else having issues with the abortions? They take my money but my sims come back pregnant still

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I've had this reported few times but I can't find the source of the issue. I will have to redo the whole thing to be sure it will work. Who knows, maybe it's a different mod that breaks it. Consider using MCCC to stop the pregnancy for now.

Anonymous

Hey great mod! But after the last update some text is gone in the settings menu, you can still press the buttons in there, but there is no text to see what you are doing

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Sounds like you have old WickedWhims files still in your Mods folder. Make sure to remove all WickedWhims related files and have ONLY THREE installed. And try cleaning the cache files as well: <a href="http://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/help/cache.php" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/help/cache.php</a>

Anonymous

Hey Turbo. The club features are great. I was wondering if you could ad the feature of directing Naturalism and flashing at specific clubs like sex and sex (swinging). Obviously the embracing nudity would be a personal thing but talking about nudity or persuading nudity or flashing with a specific club? Could that be done?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! So what would you exactly do with that? I'm not sure if I see the usefulness of it.

Jason Greco

Here's a thing I've noticed in the course of playing with the new club interactions: once a sex club member chooses a sex partner, they tend to keep asking the same partner to have sex while the cub gathering continues. Anyway to get them to mix it up with the other members?

Anonymous

Hey, really love your mod! I've updated to the latest version and I got this exception, can you help shine some light on what's causing this? <a href="https://pastebin.com/SuY9VTsV" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/SuY9VTsV</a>

wickedwoohoo

Hey! I can see how that is happening but there is nothing in place to make Sims keep picking the same partner. If you have a small group of people it's very likely to keep ending up with the same Sims all the time. There is a short cooldown period after sex so Sims don't do it immediately but if all Sims are occupied at the same time this will happen.

Anonymous

I just recently started trying to use this mod and I downloaded it but for some reason it doesn't really work or change anything that I know of. My other mods work just not that one?

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Based on your description, all I can say, is that you probably installed the mod incorrectly. Please follow these instructions: <a href="https://wickedwhimsmod.com/installation-mistakes/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wickedwhimsmod.com/installation-mistakes/</a> <a href="https://wickedwhimsmod.com/manual-mod-installation/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wickedwhimsmod.com/manual-mod-installation/</a>

DeliaDeetz

Hey Turbo, So I just had my first miscarriage in game since subbing to basemental which was..interesting but I am yet to manage killing an elder with sex. Boy have I tried! Is there a secret formula to sending the old timers to the after life with an ear to ear grin? lol

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Elders should die from being tired and sex might not be enough unless you let it run for reeeeeeally long. You would need to get them tired first with something else, like working out.

Seilaila

Hi Turbo, my game freaked out on me after I updated the WW and all of the stuff that comes with it (different positions, stances, etc). Then, while they were gettin it on in the living room on the couch, the game suddenly froze and all these notifications started popping up like 200 at a time for 6 minutes straight before I had to hard reboot my laptop. I've attached the pastebin for what my last exception was. Can you help? <a href="https://pastebin.com/PdQgELAr" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://pastebin.com/PdQgELAr</a>

wickedwoohoo

Hey! Looks like a Sim data went missing and WW ended up failing to do anything. Restarting the game is enough to fix it. Thank you for including the details of what happened, I might have an idea how to prevent this behavior in the future.

Apache Rose

Hi Turbo, I do hope I'm posting in the right place. My game forced me to update, and now WW is not showing up in the game at all. (Is this the "update explosion" you spoke of? I removed all mods except for WW and still nothing. The orange error box pops up as soon as the game started. I came here and became a patron to hopefully get a more updated version or maybe an idea what might be wrong (looks like i should have become a patron sooner :) Any idea what might be going on or an area you can point me to , so I can read myself?

Anonymous

According to deaderpool (thr guy who created MC Command Center) the latest update broke mods

Anonymous

estaremos esperando la actualización con ganas

Carl Studebaker

Well, it was inevitable. The June 19th updates on Origin and/or SIMS4 broke Wicked Whims. The "Wicked" option is not even showing up on the pie menu. Any suggestions?

Anonymous

Turbo will be working on a new mod right now. We cant do anything till then. Plus the game comes out in a couple of days!

RetainedKitten

Can't wait! The game just isn't the same without your wonderful MOD!

Anonymous

My game will not even load after I pick which save to play. Is anyone else having this issue?

Anonymous

try updating that, it did the same as me and no saves loaded updated it then worked.

Anonymous

Doing that now!

Palmanary

I'm in the same boat as Dani, I even went back to the previous version of MCCC. Till both MCCC and WW are updated, I can't even start a new family/save/world

Anonymous

Same problem for me, can't load any saved game. It just returns to the select world screen. Although I just removed MCCC and can get into the game now - but WW generates an error and no options in the pie menus.

Anonymous

After I updated to the latest MCCC, my game was ok.

Anonymous

I used origin to repair my game in settings and after it repaired each and every package and expansion, my game works with WW