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How do you make amends for past mistakes? Have you ever played matchmaker?

Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are watching Emma and it’s a fight! Emma, who thinks she knows everything about relationships vs. Jonathan, an actual professional who knows way more about relationships. Who will win? They discuss Emma’s matchmaking, selfish motives, and how her own insecurities affect her relationships. Jonathan distinguishes between wanting to help people and Emma’s amusement at playing with people’s lives. He praises Jane Austen’s ability to observe and understand human psychology, and Alan compares her to Aaron Sorkin - no one talked like that! They pay tribute to the incredible performances from the whole cast, especially Anya Taylor-Joy, and Alan fanboys about the film's staging and blocking. He’s an Autumn de Wilde fanboy.

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Anonymous

I was definitely going, "what about Edward Farris in Sense and Sensibility and Edmund Bertram is Mansfield Park?" So I also appreciate your producer's input.

Anonymous

I actually got to see a musical version of this at my university and it was incredible!!! So I knew the story even if I've never seen this version. I think Mr Knightly is up there with some of the best Jane Austen characters because he is just so good and fun. In the musical version of it he had a big solo about how much he loves Emma and no joke I think I fell in love with the actor for a minute. Yes, he was hot and had a great costume..but still!!! Love this episode and your break down of it. What's your opinion on the Gwyneth Paltrow version? All I know is that that baby Ewan McGregor shows up in it and he's always a win!

Jessica Margolin

Re: servants' pov "Rosencranz & Guildenstern are Dead"

Jessica Margolin

Jono... I think being *put* on a pedestal as a therapist might make it EASIER to work on the client/patient's patterns and beliefs around parents, or patterns around "running after" a spouse/partner (or what happens when a spouse/partner is running after their parent), or anger with authority figures, etc. Yes of course you have to avoid believing it!... but... rolling with it...

Anonymous

This movie is to is like that quote from Frederick Nietzsche, “But it is the same with man as with the tree. The more he seeks to rise into the height and light, the more vigorously do his roots struggle earthward, downward, into the dark, the deep - into evil.” Everyone must recognize their capacity to do evil to others. The more we aware of it the more we are able to make a conscious effort to do good.

Amy Petty

Honestly, it's never a good idea for someone to be on a pedestal. No reason to try to argue that there's a positive angle to it. It's such an unhealthy practice for people to engage in that I would certainly hope no professional therapist just decides to "roll" with it rather than helping their patient learn to avoid doing it in the first place.

Jessica Margolin

? Right - it’s undoubtedly unhealthy. that’s why it would provide a jump start on what to work on.

Anonymous

Love this - such a good episode! Btw- Austen’s dad was a vicar, and in Sense & Sensibility Edward becomes a vicar.

Anonymous

Thank you guys, this episode just made my day! :) Btw, Megan should be on every Jane Austen thing you do... no offense to both of you (I love you both) but she was great on the P&P episode. I loved her!

Anonymous

This is one of the best episodes you've ever done. I love it.

Anonymous

When I was in college I took a counseling class, the professor said you will get asked “if you haven’t gone through this crisis how can you help someone else through it?” and his response to that is “does a doctor need to have a heart bypass to be able to perform one?” I’ve always thought about that and made me more receptive to what others have to say

Anonymous

*Note to self: watch background actors MUCH more often. 😄 I feel like the reaction of the background characters to the main ones is how me and my coworkers act about people talking to my boss at work. 😅 If they have the boss laughing, but also get to the point, the rest of us like them. If they're drunk/tweaky and/or jerks and piss off the boss to the point she's ready to throw them out, we're eyeing drafting squares and plaster spatulas.

Anonymous

About English vicars in the early 1800s! At the time we had an overinflated church, which was a popular destination for 2nd sons who weren't required for managing family estates. There were so many posts that actual duties were very few, which left us with a load of fairly well-educated, bored young men with nothing to occupy them. The plus side was that many of them became natural scientists, fossil hunters or inventors, and the negative was many of them indulged in becoming lecherous weirdos who would be immediately recognisable to Jane Austen readers

Anonymous

It has already been mentioned that Austen’s father was a member of the clergy, and when someone grows up in a parsonage/manse they tend to see clergy in a wholly different way. My guess is that Austen saw a lot of less than savory clergymen, mainly based on the very real situation Peter Brown described above. Actually, a great book to learn a bit more about this glut of second sons becoming clergy and what that life may have looked like (and a bunch of other random facts) is Bill Bryson’s “At Home”.

Anonymous

I just want to say that there is Edward Ferrers in Sense and Sensibility, who is a good vicar as well. :)

Anonymous

You used Lizzy Bennett Diaries! My worlds are colliding! I don't know what to do!!! (Very happy me.)

Anonymous

Putting someone in a pedestal depends entirely up to the person's perception and not on the one who is being put there. In some cases it may help in therapy because it might build the trust you need to keep attending and doing the work the therapist assigns you and in some cases it might not be helpful because it can lead to disappointment because no one will ever remain forever in a pedestal because no one is perfect. As for the therapist him or herself believing that you can be on a pedestal is one of the worst things that can happen. I'll never forget what one of my teachers used to say when I was studying psychology, that whenever a patient shows signs of improvement or even when they make a compliment to your work saying that you helped them in some way, you (as a therapist) should never make the mistake of believing it has to do with you. And how wise she was...

Magnus Taliesin

Lord just the pointing out of how much young people sometimes think they know just. hahaaaaa oh boy 19yo me thought I had some shit on lock that I VERY much did not. I was smarter than some people might've given me credit for, but not nearly as smart as *I* gave me credit for. At least now I know I really don't know much? XD