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hallo loves

i just tip-tapped this little post out on instagram and wanted to cross-post it here, because it's a worthy topic.

(and: the new podcast with laura jane grace is up here if you missed it: https://www.patreon.com/posts/42535270)

something hurt me and also made me think yesterday. this is me and laura jane grace on the day we recorded our conversation for “the art of asking everything” podcast - march 2019. it’s now out and you can listen to it anywhere you get your podcasts. laura posted this beautiful hug photo by hayley fiasco up on her feed yesterday. 

and...i read the comments.

there are people who do not like laura; they think her choices are problematic. and... there are people who don’t like me; they think my choices are problematic. 

what i find hilarious - and painful - is the cartoon of this moment: where laura’s fans can simultaneously be saying “omg don’t talk to amanda she’s hella problematic” while mine can be saying “omg don’t talk to laura she’s hella problematic”. it is very 7th grade.

know what we both are? human. human artists who strive to learn, grow, and change. we have both made choices in our lives and careers that didn’t serve - others, our bands, our relationships - no doubt. and no doubt these two artists will continue to stumble and make choices we learn from. we live in this chaos of choices. we try to be and do better, do better by ourselves, our friends, our kids, our families, our audiences. we know that there are often no clear right choices. we learn from listening to our crowds, we learn from talking to each other. we make mistakes; we change. 

laura’s book, “tranny”, was such a comfort to me. 

i watched her wrestle with demons i could deeply relate to. “here is someone like me, committed to scraping her way out of the dark by telling the ugly truth”, i thought. her writing was so brave; she was so willing to let us read and learn about her dark flaws & mistakes. i’m thinking of my friend laurie penny (who's here on patreon), too, who got a lot of grief re: the right-wing people she would interview who were way outside the circles of her friends. 

i’m thinking of my podcast guest masarat daud who wears her hijab with pride, which may not sit well with some people. i’m thinking of the upcoming podcast guests who’ve been “cancelled” in their communities at one point or another. but who gets to say? i’m thinking about how we get out of this mess without it being ok for everyone to talk to everyone. how else does this work? So...may we live in a world where talking deeply with *everybody* - about *everything* - isn’t off the menu. instead, it is celebrated. thank you to everyone who’s been tuning in. 

what a ride, my loves, what a ride.


more soon.

x

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Anonymous

Communication - the building block of civilisation and really, when you boil it all down, all that's holding it together. Yeah for keeping the lines of it open!

Hayley Rosenblum

I guess it's a sign that I've taken our community for granted because I absolutely did not expect such nastiness and vitriol to appear on Laura's social channels. I found myself super excited that she shared my picture on her feed - because it feels incredibly good as a photographer to capture a moment and to have your subjects acknowledge that the image captures the magic of something ephemeral, that it portrays the sentiment for those who were not there to see. It's the highest compliment I get, as a music photographer, for musicians to share my work, and while I mostly shoot live performances, on the rare chance I get to shoot a portrait, I am especially pleased when the image conveys the beauty of the moment I see. Anyway, because I love Laura Jane Grace and Against Me!, because I love Amanda, I was excited about this podcast episode, I was excited to read the comments on her Instagram post - I wanted to see what people were saying about the two coming together, what people were saying about my photograph. Reading through the comment feed was like a slap in the face, I forgot how horrific comment sections can be. I found myself feeling upset when people spewed misinformation about Amanda, I found myself upset at the way they talked to and about Laura on her own feed, I found myself upset when someone called me "thirsty" for politely asking Laura to include a photo credit, I found myself sad that in-fighting was happening there. But I also found beauty when people were joyed to see two artists they love in an image together. I found myself assured when folks I do not know threw some support my way in response to the troll comment directed at me, or folks appreciating the image. It was a rollercoaster. I appreciated Amanda's comment in the feed, I appreciated the mutual friends she has with Laura coming out of the woodwork to shout a hello. I found the good parts of the internet too, but some how, the shitty parts sting and that sting someone lasts longer than the joy. What a shame. All I can say is that you two have A LOT to talk about and your live chat tomorrow will surely benefit from this experience. I'm personally feeling a little down right now because it's been many, many, many months since I last picked up my camera. So the positive reception of this image, and the new instagram followers liking some of my older photographs, that feels nice, like a warm hug reminding me that we can share joy in music, and that past joys are not forgotten, there's always new joys to find in them... and dare I say, new friends....

Julia Mason

Ages ago, I read that it takes 7 positive comments to counteract 1 negative comment. We are wired to avoid bad things, it's apparently helpful in terms of evolution/survival.

Akire Bubar

Yes! So important! And so hard to do, sometimes. But yes. <3

Akire Bubar

That was your photo? WOW! Really, really beautiful. One of the most emotionally evocative portraits I've seen. Gorgeous work! Your camera will call you back when you are ready! It's always okay to take breaks. I know for myself, it's always a juggling act - life intervenes, and relationships, etc. all need work and nurturing too. Do what you need to do, when you are ready to do it. And be kind to yourself if you can! <3

Katrina Pavlovich

All I have to say is what a beautiful picture. Much Love, KAT

Anonymous

Interesting ❤️

Anonymous

When people go after Amanda for her supposed sins, I always wonder if they spend the same energy pointing out how problematic sometime like Eminem is, with his obviously homophobic lyrics that he is totally unapologetic about. A male singer (so long as he is famous enough) can get away with slurs (Eminem), assault (John Lennon), and even contributing to the shooting death of a six year old(Tupac Shakur), yet still be celebrated as artists. No misstep of Amanda's comes anywhere near that level, yet people online practically froth at the mouth to disclaim her. I hope they have some energy for people who actually deserve it.

Elizabeth Gunn

I just read some of your responses to people and you are so calm and thorough, even when people are being mean moralistic showboats, and it works. They stopped. You help. And your work is beautiful.

Anonymous

I'm very much behind on the podcasts, but I hope to catch up this weekend. The first one was brilliant, as was the follow-up. Keep talking to everyone <3

Anonymous

But we HAVE to talk to everyone. Otherwise how will we move forward? Speaking of talking, is it possible for me to talk to you? I have a favor of sorts to ask. My own art has been breaking through lately and I could sure use some advice. Is that even possible? You can reach me here on Patreon, or over at @muse.of.creativity over on Instagram. I promise not to abuse the privilege.

Róisín O'Connor

This is EVERYTHING. Everything. Bravery. Fucking hell... YES.

Anonymous

No one is unproblematic. We are all complex individuals. Putting anyone on a pedestal is just asking for trouble.

Nicole Ives

Please, please keep speaking up Amanda and never be silenced :-)