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Multilevel marketing is a scam. But thanks to protection by political elites and well-funded industry propaganda, it keeps growing. Cracking down on it would be as simple as enforcing the laws against fraud — if only the political will could be found. Luke talks to MLM expert Robert FitzPatrick for a wide-ranging conversation about the history, scale, and structure of MLMs, and why there’s no such thing as a legitimate MLM.

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Tony Mines

Good, interesting interview. Very informative. Was the sudden ending an allusion to the empty box at the top of the pyramid? I was suprised that it actually turned out to be about 'regular' commercial pyramid schemes though. I had assumed a more roving conversation about the number of pyramid schemes operating within current politics. The recruitment methods for Q-Anon type conspiracy cults, for instance, all follow the model, especially when you get to the more crypto, Crypto, housewife, and hippy variants. The (former) friends I have esconsed in these schemes all choose to communicate now exclusively in terms of trying to turn every interaction into a recruitment opportunity. It's super creepy. And then of course NFT's being another politics-adjacent pyramid scheme. Or even the destruction of the Corbyn era by the insipid fake People's Vote movement, a class of person identified on the British left by their chosen hashtag that literaly announces their methodology "follow back pro Europe". I struggle to think of anything lately that *isn't* a pyramid scheme.

John

So many people I know got sucked into MLMs. Now it seems like the USA is becoming an MLM. lol