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BONUS: Bill Hicks / Community Forum / Michael Moore (Patreon)

Published:
2020-05-11 20:25:49
Edited:
2020-11-29 20:59:23
Imported:
2024-06

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In this bonus discussion, Luke and Will discuss responses to the Bill Hicks episode, hash over listener feedback, and weigh in on the controversy surrounding the Michael Moore-produced environmental doc PLANET OF THE HUMANS.

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Tony Mines

Speaking as an English, I'm not really aware of this 'British popularity of Bill Hicks' thing and am going to say it's apocryphal. Certainly, if you're a GenX male who has/had a punk band or similar, then Bill Hicks generally has a popularity amongst certain of the nations drummers. But I don't think he's really known outside of that milieu. I was introduced to Hicks in the early 2000s during my post-grad wilderness years - not even while at college in the 90s, when one might expect someone 'secretly popular' to be discovered. He manifested as a VHS tape procured by one of the nice-but-dim stoners who was looking for an 'in' with us artsy kids and our incessant conversations about complicated bullshit, and I remember their being an hour-long conversation in advance of everyone present laying bets against cracking a smile. Not because any of us had any foreknowledge of Hicks, but because the negative bias against ALL American stand-up amongst the British is incredibly strong. It's practically the one partisan agreement where you can truly say "the British don't find American stand-up funny" and know you don't really just mean the English. It's weird, American scripted comedy and improv comedy translates just fine, but the stand-up, not so much. Nobody really had their expectations challenged that day. I would be genuinely very surprised to learn though, if even the punk drummers of Britain find Hicks *funny*, so much as just appreciate the messages and admire the cultural figure. Not the same way they think John Cooper Clark or Half Man Half Biscuit are actually *funny*.

Tony Mines

Also, granted I don't really even know what a child is and have never seen one, but my recommendation for essential children's film in the present moment has to be Osmosis Jones. If you aren't familiar/don't recall, it's a childrens animated comedy about the intersection between pandemic and electoral politics. That's not even an implied subtext, it's just literally what the film is about. There are two main villains; one is the virus itself, who brags in one scene about killing "a little girl who didn't like to wash her hands" and the other is the corrupt Mayor/President who cares more about his popularity ratings than controlling the crisis. It's renewed currency is staggering, and would probably serve as a really helpful tool for parents struggling to keep their children safe against an adult world that's offering contradictory messages. Even the protracted and embarrassing Kid Rock cameo has kind of rewritten itself as implicating the Rock analogue as a schill for the politicians within the diogesis of the film. You will have to kind of wade through the unfunny live-action Farelly Brothers sequences that interrupt the animation, but trapped in between them is the best animated feature of that period that isn't Iron Giant, and one of the most on-the-nose (up the nose?) cinematic depictions of our Covid19 world.

Dee Gee
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It's funny, the one Bill Hicks fan I knew was a Brit, but I assumed it was just because he was a disaffected teenager downloading bits on fileshare (like I was with Eddie Izzard, very cool kid that I was).