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#510 - 2017-core (Patreon)

Published:
2024-03-24 20:48:02
Imported:
2024-06

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Our Superdelgate patron tier has tasked us with discussed the sitcom THE GOOD PLACE, and it leads us down a dark and scary path of remembering culture and politics in the early Trump era. PLUS: Checking in with Garfield Eats, and Luke sounds off on Masters of the Air.

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Amy Immermann

A steamy pile of Forky Doodoo and whatever else you said, just too funny

Liska Ostojic

Beginning to think Luke’s brain has been a tad poisoned by doing this show lol I’m **allergic** to liberal media. Parks and Rec makes me want to claw the skin off my body. West Wing makes me feel violence. (I’ve only seen a few episodes and literally listened to the entire West Wing Thing to hear them trash every episode.) Was never a big fan of Friends or Will & Grace, but even they are tainted to me, the latter irrevocably, simply by the existence of Debra Messing. I say all this to say I’m deeply and profoundly reactive to the kind of show Luke thinks this is. And TGP is fine??? As several people have pointed out, it comes to the opposite conclusions Luke thinks it will come to. It has a pretty genuine, and unsentimental ending, and a handful of funny jokes along the way. Is it ever DEEP deep? Did it ever preach violent overthrow of the ruling class and seizing the means of production? No, of course not, it’s a goddamn NBC sitcom. I can understand being meh about it, but this kind of fire-and-brimstone hatred (which is usually what I tune in for!) seems… a bit much? Ill thought out? Motivated by something else?? Like Luke watched the show through the lens of his hatred for the kind of person who wrote the article he quoted. Which, fair enough, I despise those people myself, and they saw whatever they wanted to see in the show, but there was also more there. Last thing I’ll say is that I know for a fact this show got a bunch of my normie liberal friends thinking *differently*. It kind of pushed them out of some of the simplistic/individualistic/moralistic lib ways of thinking. Obviously, in conjunction with a whole lot of other things going on, but definitely was a kind of sweet-tasting gateway drug to ideological curiosity, at the very least. And it for sure had its limitations. I had some sort of gripe with the ending, can’t remember what. But I do remember my very non-political friend saying “I know,” and rapid fire explaining to me what she already knew I was going to complain about. She had already gotten there herself. Hate to say it but Will is right on this one! ;-)