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Hey Guys,

Do you prefer that we:

  •  Add more Free Roam content, at the cost of delaying the development of the game;
  •  Keep the same amount of Free Roam content;
  •  Eliminate Free Roam content to speed up the development of the game.

Your choice will be very important to the future of FreshWomen.

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(The results below are a preview and don't take voting power into account yet)

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Dank Memer

i think free roam is highly dependent on the type of free roam and is mostly only good if it feels like a rewarding "exploration" experience. the worst free roams feel like hunting for the next event in a linear sequence of events or near linear sequence of events. if it just feels like you're trying to find the next event, it feels like it'd be better if it's just VN/linear. i think the best way to make free roam good is to have just like a bunch of content available including some repeatable events (like can always go back to x or y location for x or y act) or having repeatable events that have like 3-5 variations that progress each time you go mixed in with some more "core" events that either unlock a group of events (not just one), like you do this x event then it opens up x location which has 4 or whatever different events at once. also grinds that involve more than 3-5 of whatever to access content in free roam i think makes a lot of free roams really hated. a small grind can make an event feel more rewarding especially with the right context but 10-20 grinds for 1 event is pretty widely hated.

oppaiman

Do you think the type of free roam in episode 1 meets your quality criteria? Should we do more of that type of free roam, or would you change anything about it?

oppaiman

Can you share with me a game that does a free roam of exceptional quality?

Dank Memer

I just want to say sorry for the extremely long response. If it’s too long, my apologies. I’m just trying to be as helpful as I can so the game might be a better experience. Some of it might not match the direction or type of game. I was just trying to think of whatever I could. From what I remember, personally, it wasn’t either the worst or ideal. If I remember right, it did have sorta this “exploratory” feel in some sense but only with some Easter egg type things. Like the room with the bdsm stuff in the house. It didn’t really have this “exploration” feel where it’s like a buffet of sexual content. In terms of actual content scenes, it did feel like it’s just a linear story and I’m just trying to find the next “end free roam” event to continue the story. So to conclude, because it does have some Easter egg type stuff I think on the first playthrough it kinda feels a little exploratory but I imagine if going back to play, it’d feel like a linear story for many players where you’re just trying to find what you need to continue the real content story. If I could, I would change this by adding more content scenes during the free roam but in order to make it more ideal, I think it would be pretty involved changes because I do think currently the game feels more like it’s a VN/linear, like the mall free roam for example feels like a checklist you have to finish to continue the story and even though you can do them in whichever order, it doesn’t really feel exploratory. I do think however a clear checklist of events like that can be a good base or part of the foundation for a more ideal free roam experience. I think an example that would be closer to an ideal free roam experience would be probably have a larger array of locations during the free roam instead of one specific location (like the mall, or college, or party individually) and certain areas would open up like if you click on the girl’s shower area at first you get denied access with a hint saying like “if only there were some way to turn myself into a girl, maybe the magic place/character would know what to do and turns you to a girl or futa” or something like that. Or if there’s like a strip club or sex club that’s 21+ and the character is 20 so they need to get a fake id first. Then within those locations, multiple content opens up. Like maybe with the strip/sex club, there’s a character you have a full arc with an come back to her private room/area multiple times to progress the arc and involves sex. Maybe there’s other content that’s a 1 off like voyeur sex of other customers which I think would be a good place for more niche fetishes to be included or it can be just nude content like a poledance, or like idk a peek room/booth where it changes between 3 different girls each time you go ( maybe something like those red boxes in Amsterdam) and 1 of them that is a predictable fan favourite you have a side arc with later on unexpectedly that involves some sex. Or a similar type of approach with the girls shower area. Maybe you click on the shower to view a girl showering and it’s just nude/shower content but the girl changes out of a pool of 5, maybe a girl or two get a special alternate animation. Then there’s also like idk, a yoga girl or gym teacher arc where you actually has sex with them at some point and maybe some of it is in the girls shower or starts there and moves to other locations, like after having feta on girl oral sex quietly because there are other girls taking a shower nearby, the gym teacher invites you to come to her house at night. I realize though, that’s probably more of an involved overhaul though. So if that just sounds like wayyy too much for the current structure of the game.. as for suggestions that would make more of the past more isolated areas feel more like an exploratory experience, I think the solution is still the same. In order for it to feel more exploratory, I think there needs to be more sexual content that augments the base content. So like for the mall free roam… I think adding some kind of women’s bathroom scene where you catch maybe a milf type character who is uncontrollably horny and masturbating during the day in the mall’s bathroom. Maybe you see her walking around at first with a lewd/aroused expression and see her go to the bathroom. Maybe she has an unexpected arc later on, like you meet her again unexpectedly and remember she was the horny milf who masturbated in the mall bathroom but she doesn’t know you saw that and there can be some kind of dynamic where she tries to hide her horniness but you know she actually is horny. There could be some women changing clothes in the changing rooms scenes that are just basic sexy non-nude and maybe one is nude to mix it up which can also be 1 offs that have no broader arc. I think those would help create this exploratory experience but I’m not really sure what else could be added to really push that further. A mall location is kinda difficult.. that’s what I can think of. Party is kinda difficult too because I think I remember there was a 1 off sex scene in one of the bedrooms with a hook up or couple. Maybe just adding like a… idk topless girls in the pool scene. Maybe having a girl drunk with a breast exposed? I don’t know that’s not really much.. I’m not really sure with a party which is why I think having a free roam that involves an array of locations is easier to work with in some ways to create a more ideal free roam experience. College.. I think the girls shower might not be bad. Maybe making one of the main girl’s rooms be a place that feels more like you can go back to for reliable content either progressing or a randomizing set would be good so it doesn’t feel like her room is just a sequence in a linear story. I feel like maybe the college area might benefit from a very basic time of day, like night/day or morning/afternoon/night but time of day can feel even more like a content desert or a miserable hunt for the the next linear event if it’s not filled with content. I think the key idea of a good free roam “exploratory” experience is that it kind of rewards “thinking horny” like maybe before having the “magical futa transformation power” (or whatever would match the game’s style) when it’s just nude/voyeur content first, “oh a girls shower? maybe if I go in the morning, there’ll be a bunch of girls showering. Maybe there’ll be some more at the end of the day too. (And for the two to have sort of a personality, like the morning shower is more full and has a mix of more regimented girls and girls who partied the night before and didn’t take a shower before going to sleep, whereas the evening shower there are less girls overall than the morning shower and maybe has a mix of like studious but more chill girls and like a goth girl or a couple social outcasts mixed in, like a super shy nerdy girl and a girl from a middle class family who works while studying and showers after work.”) or like.. idk if the bathroom milf from the mall is a character and after you meet her again later on unexpectedly and you talk to her and find out she’s actually a neighbor or something nearby “oh you’re going to x college? I live just on y street nearby..” maybe she’s flirtatious and wants a college guy but she isn’t direct about it which makes the player think “I wonder what ms (milf character name) is up to at night” and it can be like some kinky toy masturbation scene. Anyway, I hope you’ll find some of it helpful whether directly or if it inspires other ideas.

oppaiman

You can say the name of a game that does a high-quality 5 minute free roam and I'll investigate it.

Sam

Voted to eliminate, but I guess there wasn't anything glaringly wrong in the pictured free roam scene. If there was a choice like "Develop free roam areas if the devs feel like doing so, but not otherwise" I'd have picked that, maybe the keep choice represents that in a way. I thought the episode 1 roam scene was a little bit random and the "secret goodies" were more or less thrown into your face. If you want to employ more of them I'd like to see actual story choices being determined by which items you chose to pick and which you chose to leave behind, for example. That would make the roaming scenes feel like they mean more.

oppaiman

If you can drop the name of a game that does what you said, I'm going to play it and learn from it. The problem with Free Roam is that they are quite complex to program. Making a complex free roam would require not hiring the animator for sex scenes, and instead hire a programmer.

Dank Memer

About an exceptional free roam experience in another game, I’m not sure tbh. There are a few that have some elements of a good free roam but none that I’d say are exceptional. I think that’s part of why free roam is so widely hated with adult games. There was a 2d one called woodville or Woodward or something but even that was kinda more like.. multiple story arcs in free roam and didn’t really have the “exploratory feel”. There was a 3D one but I think I deleted it so I’d really have to dig to find it. Milf in time was free roam and while it had touches of this “exploratory free roam experience” it was really mostly linear and relied on the strength of its linear story. Maybe warlock and boobs? That game I think probably has the closest to that “exploratory” experience and “rewarding thinking horny” sorta like a content buffet but that game also has really really horrible grind and frustrating RNG barriers to proc events. But if warlock and boobs had 1/4th of the grind and took out the RNG proc for content events or at least increase the chance by 300% then warlock and boobs is probably the best example. I really don’t think any game has done it exceptionally tho or even really well and a lot of them get abandoned because it’s probably a lot more complicated to make and required a lot more beforehand/set planning. I think maybe the last suggestions in the reply might be best (augmenting current singular/isolated areas with additional content to help make it feel more like a content buffet when an area become free roam, like the dressing room/bathroom ideas for the mall or idk stuff like the girls gym shower or one of the role of one of the main girls rooms in the college area)

oppaiman

I'm going to take the Free Roam easy for now until I have the top priorities done (sex animations, and delivering new episodes faster).