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Today's topic: The Concept of Virginity is Garbage [In My Opinion]

So, in my humble opinion, virginity is just a trash concept.

I haven’t done extensive research, I can’t give you biblical readings, or its exact origin, (and in all honesty, I don’t think you guys come to me for that), but from what I can tell, virginity was created, like many things, for the purpose of exercising control over others. The operative word being created. Virginity, lest we forget, is a concept. A garbage concept, in my unsolicited opinion, but a concept nonetheless.

So, what do I have against virginity?

Well, for starters, I have a problem with men and women feeling that it’s a vital part of their identity. I have a problem with women being told to prize theirs, whilst men are pressured to lose it. I have a problem with the fact that people have literally killed themselves over not doing the “right thing” with it.

I have many problems with virginity. But most of all, I think the main thing that bothers me is that men and women torture themselves over something that’s not even fucking real. Virginity isn’t tangible, it’s not even chemical, it is quite literally some bullshit made up to uphold a societal ideal that has majortively become obsolete.

I am here to tell you, as a genuine “non-virgin”, that consensual sex changes absolutely nothing about you. I did not become disgraced, I have yet to burn in hell, and most importantly, I did not become a “real woman”. Sex is not an achievement. It is a personal choice, much like hobbies or how you spend your downtime. It is, at its core, an activity. It conveys so little about who you are, that to me, it’s laughable we even need to talk about it. But here we are in this ridiculous world talking about ridiculous things.

So, if that’s the case, why talk about it? Well, the world we live in might be ridiculous, the things we worry about might be absurd, but at the end of the day, we all have to navigate this bullshit, and it might be a little less lonely if others talk about how fucking ridiculous some of this shit is!

So, here I am, talking about the gross lie that is virginity. Because, in my opinion, it really is just that - a gross, greatly exaggerated lie.

And what’s the only thing stronger than a lie? Well, the truth. Or more importantly, YOUR truth!

So, through my posts, audios, and just general day-to-day interactions, I’m gonna speak my truth about virginity. And my truth is: it’s bullshit and you don’t need to live your life around an inflated, ridiculous lie. But that’s just me.

And absolutely, yes, there will be people who take it seriously, people who measure their worth and YOU against it, but you know what the amazing thing about concepts is? YOU get to choose which ones work for YOU, and which are actual garbage.

As always, I really appreciate that life isn't one size fits all. These are just my thoughts, I hope they can be of some use to you.

Best wishes,

Tea

Comments

___ ToT

Fair enough

Bear

The idolized version of virginity was a method of proving paternity. Sexual experience has it's advantages and disadvantages in pair bonding and had effects beyond the sex that are often overlooked. That said, the value of a person's virginity is only for that person in this day and age.

MadKlauss

Thank you, Tea!

Sali

Hearing this from someone does help me to be more aware of this, but I personally can't help but stress and get overly anxy from the fact that I have not even been close to losing mine. Its all bullshit, but the fact that men are usually toxic about not losing your virginity early does not help with the pressure the whole concept brings. I hate that I'm still a virgin, but at the same time I can't be bothered to even try to get a one night thing going to relieve that pressure. Just a miniature hell in my head time to time.

TeacupAudio

I appreciate that, but as you say, in our modern society, people should just be able to communicate honestly. We grow with each generation, and hopefully, in the right direction. I just think if we want better communication and feeling between romantic partners (and just men and women in general) we need to stop worrying how many body parts they've had experience with. As my new found saying goes: "Judge not a man by how many dicks he's swallowed, but by how many dicks he's suffered and still chosen to be a good dude" :D

Jared Chinchello

Thank you Tea, as always your insight into this matter was incredibly welcomed. I really needed to hear this as I haven't been with someone yet, I'm trying to get me sorted first you know, yet I had been feeling like a less of a man for not having been with someone yet. However, I am still planning to wait until Im in a relationship where I can see myself gettin hitched. Am I weird for abstaining from bumping uglies until I am in a serious relationship?

Coby-O

I never really thought about this before this post but agree. The best way to say what I ultimately think of this topic after some thought is this: Sex is a part and a want in life but not a necessary or a need in life. Sex is like a phone, art, a car, games, and movies. It can be great, but it’s not necessary in life. Sex is not like food, water, money (not in a greedy way but enough to put food on the table), and shelter because without those and a few other things, your life is over in this world. By slapping a concept like virginity on it and telling people to treat it a certain way, people forget what makes sex special when it happens and see it as a game of some sort. When I had sex for the first time, and it was just a one night stand, it didn’t feel good. It was a “let’s do it and get it done and over with” thing. I regret it and wished I had waited to do it with a very special person like I am now, but when I mention it to others especially my brother and his pals, they react the way you think and say the typical things like “We’ll get you laid. We’ll help you out.” Why do you treat sex which is supposed to be “making love” like it’s a game? Why“make love” or “loose your virginity” with someone you don’t care about. Why do people care if they or someone else got laid or not? Edit: In contrast for whatever reason, relationships and marriages are treated the other way around especially the latter. It’s seen that women really want marriage yet guys don’t. Going back to my brother and his friends who all of them have encouraged and pressed me to have sex, shit all over me when I say I want a relationship and even have a wife... despite all are either in a relationship or married. Why?

Anonymous

Not at all. I think it means you're a responsible adult (in spirit if not in age) who knows what he wants in life rather than being swayed by the reckless hedonism that society encourages

Anonymous

Thank you for this post Tea! I grew up in a horrible cult that obsessed itself with the sexual purity of its members. I cannot believe to this day the enormous but completely arbitrary value that either the ill informed or cruel put on virginity. I wish someone would have told me this years ago!

June

Thank you

AudioFreak

Totally agree, Tea. To add to that, as a man, I don't think that society or my peers put pressure on me to lose my virginity. I always wanted my "first time" to be special, as it would always be an experience that I remember for the rest of my life, even if it doesn't define me. Sex was not the goal for me when I first started dating. But at some point, I decided that I really wanted to know what sex was like and decided that it was a goal. I don't regret that choice. After my "first time", I felt like it was something that I no longer had to think about. I don't think it was peer pressure, as much as that I couldn't participate in any discussions with my friends about sex. Now I was part of the "convo". Once I got passed the first time, I could focus more on the whole relationship, than just wondering what sex would be like. Of course, as a man, it didn't stop me from 'thinking' about sex. LOL

Anonymous

The biggest issue i have with these opinions are the titles. It makes me think one way, but when i read it, i completely agree with the things said. The whole outlook for guys i can relate to a lot (seeing as i have yet to do something with my virginity), especially when i get shit on when i keep saying i want my first time to be with someone who i've built a relationship. The most common answer i get, why bother with something like that, you're in your early twenties, you need experience we'll find you a nice lady for a good buck and a quick fuck followed by virginity may have been about love/connection in the past, now it's just about getting your urge over with. That personally upsets me because i keep hearing it. Anyways sorry for the long rant, hope you have a nice day and stay you <3

Anthony Lambros

What if you wanna hold on to your virginity? For context, I’m a guy and I’m 24 so I’ve been pressured to lose it rather than keep it. I just don’t feel ready to take that step. I don’t necessarily think it’s sacred because yeah, that is somewhat out of date in today’s age. But I do want sex to be special (and safe) at least for me. As well as with the right person. Y’know? Someone that means a lot to me and I mean a lot to them. Hell, I’m not even against friends with benefits. Lol. I’m not saying I have anything against anyone who dose what they want with their bodies but... I really do hope that I’m not wrong for wanting this for myself... (If that’s the right way to put it). What are your guys’ thoughts? P.S. Thank you so much for everything Tea. Love your content. (And your opinions). 😅🙏🏻😁👍🏻

TeacupAudio

It's not wrong at all to not have sex, or to wait to have sex with someone you truly care for. The essence of the post is that sex is a choice. It's a personal choice and it's no one else's business but yours. So, you do you, buddy. Have sex, don't have sex, wait, don't wait. Whatever works for you :)

Anonymous

I lost my virginity when I was 12 years old now I'm 26 years old (man). It's something that fortunately or unfortunately happens to young and curious boys and girls. even after all these years I still haven't decided if it's been good or bad for me. I don't hate the fact that I lost my virginity at a young age. Without understanding the gravity of it but . I do hate the idea that I won't able to return it to someone in the future if they give it up for me. Let me be clear. In no way I am insinuating or implying that it is good for to young preteens to have sex. but I do feel by being more open to kids. When it comes to sex ed In schools would really help. all I learnt at school is when it comes to sex ed is man + woman = kid. Nothing more nothing less.

Michael Miller

First of all, losing it or having it aren't as big a deal as we have been lead to believe. Second of all, it's more important that the activity of sex itself means something to those involved. I lost my virginity in my late twenties to a gal who was four years older than me, who ALSO had yet to have sex. The night was glorious (despite us both have head colds and work the next day... the timing was just right, and we were both ready), and we both had the giggles once everything was said and done. Even then, the way I first had sex isn't how everyone will. She and I are no longer together, but while we were a couple, we did the deed a fair bit. Again, it's entirely a choice, and she and I used to crack jokes that, "If I took her virginity, and she took mine, we were both still virgins and were just swapping back and forth continuously."

Galimeer5

One thing worth mentioning that I learned (relatively) recently is about a woman's hymen. Young men; when learning about sex be it from public school sex education, religious institutions, or "common knowledge"; are taught to think of the hymen as a "freshness seal" when it's completely not. It's not any kind of barrier blocking a woman's vagina and it doesn't *have* to break, bleed, and hurt the first time she has sex. So virginity isn't even something based in physical anatomy. It's just another consequence of society having very warped and misguided ideas about sex. So don't overthink it -- society is crazy. Don't listen to crazy people.

Iron Piedmont

I irks me how obsessed people are with virginity in the modern world. And with sex in general. I've had people legitimately call me gay all because of me being a virgin at my age. I'm at a point where I stopped caring about being virgin, but I'm worried that, when I do get a girlfriend, how is she going to value virginity and sex? Given that I live in the Bible Belt, where the younger generations (including my own) have this weird amalgamation of "we're rebels, we do what we want" and the traditionalism of "you're not a man if you don't do this or that," I'm going have some issues. But, like all populations, there will always be that one young lady that will care about ME rather than how many women that have been laid or haven't been laid by me. All in all, thank you Tea for this positive viewpoint.

KittyCatism

THANK you for this, I've been trying to explain this to friends for YEARS. The anxieties surrounding sexual performance - especially when paired with increasingly common work/life imbalance, poorly socialized millennials/zoomers/etc, and commodified romance/sex/relationships - are wildly intensifying anxieties and sexual repression (both of self and of others) . Basically, the concept of virginity, in an age of decades-long economic immiseration and isolation under a pandemic, is driving us all insane. If we cut out the old patriarchal holdover of virginity, we can take that screaming kettle off the burner. ❤️

Anonymous

I completely agree with that. Finding a good relationship means more to me than fooling around, and the modern understanding of the title puts pressure in the opposite direction. Obviously, it is for each person to decide for themself, but I do get where you're coming from.

Chris

See, Tea, this is one of the reasons why I support you: you speak the brutally-honest truth.

The Jolly Dane

I feel like most sexual insecurity comes from these huuge cultural hangups, like virginity, size, endurance, etc. And they're all just ideals we've absorbed through the environment, we've all grown up in and therefore must reference to, when we don't know otherwise. This is all just conceptual and constructed by society, and it's not inherent to the human experience at all! The problem is that you have nothing to grasp onto, outside of what you've been exposed to or taught by others. That's the difficult part, and that's why it's so important to talk about these topics in a public space, so people can become comfortable with it and think more openly and honestly about it. Tea, you have such a wise and positive outlook on sex and self-perception, and it's really amazing to hear your encouragement on these matters ❤️ I really, really want to have sex someday, though :)

Anonymous

Personally, I disagree. Virginity comes with a sort of innocence, of not having done something before. That's why I probably wouldn't lose it to a non-virgin. It would be a very important experience to me, but "just another person" to the other.

Matthew Harper

It sounds like you are averse to casual sex without intimacy. Which has little to do with the virginity status of your partner. As a non-virgin with multiple prior sexual partners, no one I have been with was "just another person."

Anonymous

I totally agree with everything you said. Having been raised in a dangerous and very controlling cult where sexual repression is basically the norm, it was terrible to see women being labelled as "unclean" or "worthless" just because they got into a loving relationship and became intimate with the partner they loved. That cult is all about misogyny, so men are just labelled as bad associations of course, but it still implies loosing their only social group until they correct their misconduct. Young adults couples are so anxious about not being virgins that they are never alone, even on a date they must have chaperones (needless to say date activities are monitored and there is a list of acceptable activities, all cult related, and one is only allowed to date if one plans to marry in the following months). Although I never bought into that kind of thinking and virginty to me is meaningless, I have to admit that, if I ever have the chance to meet someone who finds me half as likeable as an overcooked dirt cake, I think I'd feel safer if they're inexperienced. Solely for the fact that I'm such a piece of trash and, let's face it, there is no way I would be able to measure up to any previous experience someone may have had, be it sexual or emotional . But anyway, nobody should be judged on their "body count" not being zero and I hope society will soon quit with that bullsh*t of a criterion. Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts with us Tea and I wish more people get to read them. (Please feel free to correct my grammar, I'm not a native English speaker😊)

Anonymous

Well I am a man and as sad as it might sound I never had sex before... even though i am almost 29 years old... But do i feel pressured about it? i would say partially yes and partially no cause - well how do i say this? - for once i am who i am and i dont really care about my virginity but the concept of sex in itself for me includes that i at least want to do it only in a relationship where i trust my partner (and even though until now i only ever had feelings for some women i cant deny the possibility that i might still be bi). The sad part about all that is more that i have the feeling that i either am just a friend (hello friendzone) or straight up nonexistent for the femaleworld... but going back to topic a bit more: i think everyone should decide for themselves if they treasure their virginity or not. i dont treasure mine and dont really want to keep it for the one and only. i just want it to be gone in a loving relationship and if that relationship will last the rest of my life it is fine but if there are others coming after the first one well thats also fine. oh and sorry about my writings i am a bit to lazy to check if every word is written correctly or the word order is correct cause english is not my primary language even though i am chatting and reading a lot in english i often use german wordorder in sentences.

NotMyName

We all have different stories, we all come from different environments. As far as I remember, I've never been explicitly encouraged to lose my virginity or shamed for "having" it. I might've had some of the opposite, I'm sure my parents wanted me to wait until I was 18+ and in a good relationship etc., and I don't think I regret being a good schoolboy through high school. For the most part, I feel like I've been left alone, unbullied. That's all pretext to: It's hard to resonate with or feel encouraged by advice trying to liberate me from an artificial societal expectation to hit some bar, when the bar isn't there (for me) because of societal imposition. I keep it there, because I think it's important for personal reasons. Maybe it's an arbitrary societal norm for me to graduate college, get a job, and be able to live independently. I'm keeping the weight of those because even though it's unpleasant while I don't measure up, if/when I do make it it'll be a milestone that says something good and lasting about me and my capabilities. I don't want to lose my virginity to get high fives from the bros, to be a deemed a man, or even (primarily) for the pleasure. In my mind, it's a proof of connection, of being deemed desirable and valued by someone outside to a degree that they're willing to be as vulnerable and connected with you as possible. This isn't inherent to (losing) virginity, sex is what the involved parties make of it (casual fun, a learning experience, a nightmare, etc.), but that's what I make of it, and want from it. I guess I'm just looking for validation. Maybe someday.

Jeremy Knight

I hate it when people flex about having sex or that they can get women to show off how much better they are than you. I see sex as something I just want for pleasure, not to prove I'm better than someone. Ontopof that I want it to be wit someone who accepts me for who I am. I'm not meant to be the fling/one night stand guy. I beleive it's harder to get sex when you're disabled as someone who's legally blind.

Anonymous

I don't really agree, sure it's not a tangible thing and doesn't really mean anything, but that can be said for many things. I've always seen it as kinda like a waypoint in your life, like your first car or house. It's not gonna change who you are, but it is a moment in your life where you do something for the first time, something grown up and it's special because you've found someone who is comfortable enough to be with you. I've met many people in my life and been teased about being a virgin a lot, but in my experience, it's never been serious, and the people who do take it seriously aren't really worth listening to. Most people will be like "oh lol, you're still a virgin haha" and then move on because they don't care that much. It's just like when I tell people I've never had a serious relationship they just go "Look at this dumbass he's not great with women, ok, I know you a little better now, back what matters. In short, it's my opinion that humans are human, we're gonna assign agency to thing that don't really matter because we're like that. We're good at finding meaning and beauty in what is realistically totally random chance because it's crazy that we're even here at all. That's what I think at least.

TeacupAudio

I completely agree that the importance placed on a subject lies with the individual. No one can tell you how important something is to you. To some people having sex for the first time will be a big deal, and to others it will matter very little. We’re all individuals and we don’t experience life in just one way. I guess my overall point is that sex is overrated, at least in a societal sense. I would still be me whether I had sex or not. I would still be worthy of love and respect whether I had sex or not. And ultimately, the more status we place on sex and abstinence, the more we create problems for ourselves. Just do what works for you, and don’t worry about other people’s opinions. It’s your life. You live how you feel is best for you.

Cloyd Vanderhaag

See i think perhaps i can see why based on how you see it you would think that. But i think of it kind of as the opposite. I felt pushed as im sure most men do to lose my virginity. I did eventually, but in a very unpleasant experience by someone who simply wanted to rack up another virginity taken achievement (and make her ex jealous which i found out later and was part of the rather horrific time now permanently etched into my memory) But i relay that to say that i genuinely wish i still had that first time. There will be another person some day and that first time with them will be special because they care about me like the first one did not. But it will not be MY first time. Likely not hers either. But i wish i could share that true first with someone who actually cared about me. I squandered it. First kiss, first love, first car etc The world is full of first which if done right and appreciated right hold a magical quality to them. Its this reason i think (and yes im a religious person rather ironically in some regards so you could totally disagree with me on this i guess if you dont believe in God) But i think thats the reason God intended for us to wait. Not so that it could be weighed against us if we dont. But because there is a magic in sharing that first with someone who truly cares for you. My mother's first time was with my father. And she talked about how special it was because she was and has only been with my father. I will sadly never know that. Because i was convinced it was a valueless thing to be thrown out at the first oppurtunity instead of something that for good or ill would always leave an impression on me. Thats just my own rambling though and your mileage of course may vary

EventHorizon

I disagree on your views on virginity, but I agree that sex is overrated in a societal sense. Before I go into why I disagree. I want to say I respect you for a number of reasons, you are very talented and seem to be driven by ccompassion. Part of your argument against the value of Virginity seems to be it's tangibility/it being real, but the same criticisms could be used against Fidelity. If you ever been cheated on emotionally or physically it is definitely a tangible and real feeling. These kind of conversations generally come down to what people value. if someone values sex as an intimate Experience ment to be shared between people who love each other are going to view, people who are Sexually promiscuous as individuals who are indulging in sex solely for pleasure as demonstrating they do not hold the same values. There are some assholes who want to ruin someone's life for this difference of Values, which is unacceptable. I personally think people shouldn't be Sexually irreasonable considering the long term effects it can on yourself as well as those around you.

CrowKnows

The only reason I care at all is that it is correlated with divorce rates. Interestingly enough it is not a positive or negative correlation but a curvilinear one. No partners have a significantly lower average divorce rate after 5 years. Perhaps one could criticize me for trying to apply math to love, but I'm an INTP sooo....