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Something Really Big To Think About (New Preview Shortly) (Patreon)

Published:
2019-04-11 21:14:41
Edited:
2019-04-11 22:53:52
Imported:
2020-08

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First, let me say, I will be posting a new preview shortly... I am just waiting on the "preview" to render.

Heya all. So this is kinda a important poll so I would love if you would really read it through before deciding and maybe think a bit on it... and provide any feedback that you have.

SO, its kinda a long story but, Maggie and Mary were some of the first rigs I ever did in my life (the RIG is what lets you animate the character). Now, without getting into a TON of details, I will say their rigs SUCK compared to Bella, Anna or any of the NEW rigs I am using for Amys Big Wish. The current rigs for Maggie and Mary are full of problems that are too numerous to explain... but the bottom line is, they slow things down a lot. The animation (especially sex scenes) is MUCH more complicated with their current rigs than the newer Bella/Anna style rigs I am using.

I hope so far this is making sense. Bottom line is, the new rigs are faster/lighter and much easier to use.

SOOOO.... I had this crazy (maybe LITERALLY crazy thought) yesterday... what if, I used their NEW models and NEW rigs for AMRL5? (whaaaaaat?)

So... lemme list out the pros and cons. Please, let me know what you think. 

PROS:

  • Since I am going to be using the new rigs in Amys Big Wish anyway, this will save a lot of time in the grand scheme of things
  • It will introduce the new "style" to everyone
  • It will give me some experience with the new rigs before I work on Amys Big Wish.
  • It will save a LOT of time in making AMRL5
  • Since the new models are "cleaner" it will make doing more complex things (bulges/breast squishes/butt jiggles/vaginas opening/anus openings, stuff like that) easier
  • I think animating with the new rigs would actually make the animation BETTER in terms of how life look the movements would look

CONS:

  • The art style is very different... though I am committed to keeping it "cartoony" it WILL look different
  • Anna wont be in Amys Big Wish soo... I would cut her scene but add more emphasis to the other scenes
  • It will take me a little time to get the new models setup and rigged. BUT... I imagine having the new rigs would save an equal if not greater amount of time in animating AMRL5

Here is an example of Maggies new model. I would get feedback from everyone in finalizing the models this is just a DRAFT of Maggie and would not be her final model.

EDIT: I wanted to provide a little reference for the amount of time the new rigs take vs the old rigs

So Bellas banana scene took me around 4 hours of work. The current face fucking scene has taken around 12 hours of work with at least 3-5 more hours left. While obviously the face fucking scene is much more complicated, it should take maybe 4 hours per character using Bellas banana scene as a benchmark.

Comments

Anonymous

I just really enjoy your work. You do an amazing job and when it comes to your art you should know what is going to work best. After all we just sit here drool and fap lol ;p

bigwiggy

I'm really conflicted with this one as the time saving aspect is important, and yet the draft of the new Maggie looks nothing like the existing Maggie. Would it be possible to fix or redo the existing rigs of Maggie & Mary so they're as easy to work with as the newer models allowing them to keep their existing look?

terry mcneil

I'm ALL for easier vaginal openings!!!!!

AgentRedGirl
>>21690267

I know, Im conflicted too... I would texture the model to look identical to the current Maggie (with some minor tweaks of course) and try to make her look more like current Maggie as well... buuut rerigging the current models would take a lot of work... and I would only use them for 1 animation so thats not a good investment of time :(

McGheezer

YES!! Some style variations and the temporary benching of primitive-rig Anna is well worth getting to the new model promise land. My only SuperLoving request is the next occasion you have to write an exquisitely salivating sentence like bullet 5 in the pros section, I ask that you do it in italics or some rare Sanskrit font so my eyes can find it that much faster. I've never fallen in love in so few words in my life! <3 =^)

AgentRedGirl

EDIT: I wanted to provide a little reference for the amount of time the new rigs take vs the old rigs So Bellas banana scene took me around 4 hours of work. The current face fucking scene has taken around 12 hours of work with at least 3-5 more hours left. While obviously the face fucking scene is much more complicated, it should take maybe 4 hours per character using Bellas banana scene as a benchmark.

AgentRedGirl
>>21690819

I will italic and bold any mention of vaginal or anal openings going forward! 😂

Nikademis

I'd say keep the series going as is. Wait and use the new rigs on the new project.

Cwolf

I wanna make things easier for you but I really don't wanna lose Anna from the episode. I've been looking forward to her the most.

Cwolf

*sigh* I really wanna see Anna's gigantic belly swelling loads put even Mary's to shame. :( Sorry this sounds sl petulant.

McGheezer
>>21691150

...and "banana scene benchmark" just made my quote of week list on my whiteboard. Thx!

AgentRedGirl
>>21692206

You know... at the very least, I can do Anna and Maggies scene with the old models... Anna is a beautiful model and beautiful rig, it would be a shame to waste it. Then.... i could make the other scenes "part" of Amys Big Wish... you got me thinking!

sKorpion

new models long overdue... though they look great, double the work and production time cant be justified. also, in the future engine updates WILL prevent using old data/models... inevitable.

Mkgaff47

I'm all for the "out with the old in with the new" attitude and since it will be better for animating and a time saver to boot, what's not to gain? Though, call me sentimental, but I do agree with keeping the new models as faithful as possible to the old. At least as much as the rendering and mechanics will let you with the new hardware. That's my two cents anyway...

glrider

I think the answer lies with how many more episodes of AML are planned? If you're done with this story arc after AML5, I'd say stick with current models. If you have many more episodes planned, if the story is far from being complete, I'd say switch to new. Finally, if there is a time jump, save the new rigging for after the time jump. For example, say one of the characters announces her pregnancy at the end of AML5 (or 6), and then there's a time jump of several months, switching to the new rigging for after the time jump would make sense. People change over several months. So you could explain the change in their looks by that time gap.

JD

How different will they look? To me it depends on that.

Anonymous

tbh i wanna see if Maggie can handle Anna and Mary

Roger Bond

I HAD to pick the spatula option. That's just too funny, lol. At any rate, I'll go with the flow, but I do have a fondness for the current rigs, especially Mary. If you can make the new rigs look as close as possible to the old ones while making them more efficient, that would be awesome.

Kennyannydenny

Wow that's a difficult choice. I see the majority chooses using the new rigs but i'm not so sure. I can understand it takes a lot of time using the old ones (and that sucks), but like others said, maybe the switch to completely new rigs with completely different looks is a bit unlogical since AML5 is the last one. My first reaction would be to use the rigs on the new project and keep them the same for this last part. I loved to see Anna in it too, really think she's stunning (too bad she won't be in ABW) and hearing she won't be in kinda sucks. But I get that it takes you a lot of time to use those rigs or make the new ones looking like the old ones, so i'm fine with switching earlier if you really want that. Hope you do plan to use Anna in the future too, I'd hate to see her getting introduced recently and see her go out the window so soon. That said, the new Maggie looks good, she's very sexy. Hope you at least give her the same personality and that she doesn't suddenly become thicc. I too love thicc characters like Mary but I hope we'll see a lot of variations between characters, keeping the contrast. (we only see the top now so not sure how the rest will look). My only suggestion is to make sure her hips don't become too much, Maybe it's just the new style I need to get used too, but I always found the contrast bewteen Mary and Maggie, thicc versus skinny very good. Well that become langer than I intended! :D (no pun intended O.O)

Anonymous

Im glad you're making a new Mary model. My wife and i thought the old model's butt to leg ratio made her look like an ant from "Bug's Life." Which was good, but you've progressed as an animator enough its time to upgrade.

AgentRedGirl
>>21702120

Heya Kenny! Thank you for the feedback... and you do make some good points. I am going to address these in an upcoming post now that yovue mentioned it. But yes, I will keep the characters personalities true and try to make the physicals look as similar as possible

AgentRedGirl
>>21694161

Heya glrider! You also make some great points... I will say AML5 will be the "last" part of the AML series BUT Maggie, Bella and Marys story will continue into the next series and they will play some very important roles in the new series as well. So, their stories continue BUT also intertwine with the new characters.

Strolch

I think you should upgrade to improve Animations

Strolch

and i hope the centaurs will be upgraded too 😳👍

FlyBoy

I just fell into this marvelous opportunity to influence an artist with your talent and expertise. Where can I see more of your previous work and completed projects?

AgentRedGirl
>>21829955

Hello Flyboy! Thank you so much for joining =) Patreons can view my final animations below. You can also join the Discord (link to your Patreon) for some additional access =) <a href="https://www.patreon.com/AgentRedGirl/posts?tag=final%20animation">https://www.patreon.com/AgentRedGirl/posts?tag=final%20animation</a> Patreons can view previews of my up-coming animations here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/AgentRedGirl/posts?tag=animation">https://www.patreon.com/AgentRedGirl/posts?tag=animation</a>

Anonymous

Maggie's youthful innocence matches her voice and facial features perfectly, imo. I know this is just a draft of the new Maggie but she looks much older than 18 to me. I would miss the old Maggie if her appearance changes too much.

joop64

What Roger Jolly said.