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EDIT: I was gonna film RIIZE reactions today but with this sudden news, I just need some time to process my emotions and also to give you guys time as well. I don’t think we can fully have fun right now. I will try next week and see how it goes with their content that I need to catch up on. Rest assured, I will continue to do RIIZE reactions.

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I’m tired of SM.

Sorry I don’t normally post like this but this year is just shit after shit after shit. So much has happened.

Every time I come to love someone, SOMETHING happens to them. Even if nothing is their fault. If you have watched my Talk Saxy dance practice reaction, that was the start of my journey towards really REALLY liking Seunghan.

So many idols have been a victim of stupid “fans” who have nothing better to do than either come up with shit or invade an idol’s privacy. (Edit: In this case a friend but some people/“fans” just can’t fathom that an idol has life outside of their work. What’s ideal here is that even if the friend leaked it, ALL kpop fans should’ve been “ok and?” and moved on but unfortunately that didn’t happen.)

Absolutely nothing was wrong with Seungan’s past doings that’s been leaked. I have heard so much of what goes on behind the scenes especially having friends in the industry and Seunghan’s actions are not out of the ordinary even for an idol. This is a clear, targeted string of actions to ruin one’s career/group.

I am tired.

It’s always my faves that are hit. Many of you have experienced this trauma from your own faves. I’ve come to LOVE every single RIIZE member in such a short amount of time that this just makes me so infuriated for Seunghan and the rest of the members.

It makes me so tired as a kpop fan.

Sorry for the rant. I’m just, I can’t—

Comments

jay

i most definitely agree, it really is tiring

Michelle Ricci Mojado

Same jeff. I’m so heartbroken upon reading the announcement, moreso, upon reading Seunghan’s letter. He doesn’t need to apologize. 😭 we all know how SM work with this indefinite hiatus 😭 I just hope he really comes back to Riize. 🫧🥺

jay

i don’t understand k-fans wanting him to get kicked out??? for doing the most normal things. odd behavior

Gab Calinog

Naurre cause it is really unfair for Seunghan and for his fans like. SM could’ve handled it better we all know it but it’s just hopeless to watch another idol get treated like this for being normal.

Iman

no i completely understand you. it’s so frustrating that instead of SM addressing the MULTIPLE violations of his privacy their response is to put him on hiatus and make him APOLOGIZE despite doing absolutely nothing wrong.. he doesn’t deserve this..

Alex L.

I'm on the same boat. Seunghan is my bias, it's very saddening to see this happens. I've seen some immature so-called Riize "fans" who supported him leaving the group and that makes me very sad. Seunghan didn't do anything that would cross the line and enough to be inactive. I'm afraid Lucas's hiatus scenario might reoccur to Seunghan. I really hope we see him coming back soon.

Shavani

You perfectly said what everyone is thinking. It’s absolutely ridiculous the accusations on idols. They just have to breath wrong and they get targeted. It’s so frustrating how SM is doing nothing to protect their artists. It actually hurt so much because I started standing RIIZE because of senughan and he has sooo much more to show us. And this happens. Same thing happened with Lucas. SM really sucks is all I can say. It’s such a same such talented people who have worked so hard only to have their careers destroyed by stupid NORMAL human things.

AD

Exactly!! He didn’t deserve any of this😭

Laila 💛

I'm furious, I want to scream with all of these stupid haters, because for me none of these people are fans, they can't be. And SM should defend their artists, not just get rid of them until people forget the gossip, I'm so mad at them and so afraid for Seunghan's destiny and Riize as well... I want all 7 of them together...

Anonymous

The K-pop community has always been toxic, but during the last years is getting worse. The fact that the “fans” are invading the idols privacy and the companies don’t say anything about that and blame the idol instead is sad. Knowing how SM entertainment treats their idols is basically unknown when they will come back from hiatus since they rarely take legal action against the people who started the rumors and the hate. Sorry for my bad writing, English is not my first language

Spandy

Yeah...seriously, SM just step up better and protect ur artist better..y'all are getting paid for it not for free..and also..yes,that is his privacy many ppl in their private have their opinions and thoughts and for god sake do not tgink idols shld be like perfect or god like...even god may not perfect..Before telling someone to be perfect just those ppl who allege him being improper shld question themeselves whether they are...cuz when u are pointing one finger towards them remaining four point towards you... I just hope this indefinetly doesnot become permanent and i also started to stan seunghan becuz of his voice and presence...OMG i feel bad for RIIZE members on what they are going through...its just they got to debut and this...now...plz...SM do not remove him from the group...😔😔

Anonymous

As a Kpop fan, I am so tired too especially with SM. I told myself that RIize is my last kpop group

Anonymous

But you are right. These idols are just people who should be allowed to do the normal things people do. And SM should be defending their artists instead of sticking them in the basement when accusations come out. I mean look at Lucas. Where is he?

j.

If this is seunghan's decision, i will understand. But if it's SM kowtowing to these deranged "fans", they're just further reinforcing this kind of unreasonable "culture" -- and will impact them even more in the long run.

Lu Na

I came to love Seunghan so much. I don’t want to get my hopes up with the hiatus and him returning again, just to end up being heartbroken once again. I want to support the other members, I want to support RIIZE, but I don’t know if I will be able to. I just don’t know what to feel at the moment. Its just so sad and so frustrating. This group ment so much to me.

Violet Joo

I'm not a RIIZE fan but I am mad too. I don't think that he did anything so wrong to be put in hiatus. And SM should stop giving all those fans the power to cancel idols just because they don't like what they do.

Lauryn L

It’s so frustrating! LIKE CMON SM protect your fucking idols for once! I could see if he actually did something wrong but he hasn’t. And it’s even more annoying that it seems like Kfans aren’t too fond of him so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s eventually kicked out.

Meryl Chen

Honestly, this time, it's not even any "crazy fans" fault; it's literally some of Seunghan's old friends betraying him and posting Seunghan's pre-debut private materials with evil editing and intentionally spreading fragmented information...(it really could be the lousy friend collaborate with the team's competitors, aiming to drag them down, cause we all know RIIZE is doing so well on chart right now) So many other people, who experienced similar rumors, are still active in the industry... Seunghan might need to apologize to the members as the team worked so hard for this debut opportunity, and it's not fair to involve other members in the so-called "controversy," but he definitely does not need to stop promoting...this went too far.

ATO

It’s so sad, Seunghan deserves nothing but love 😭😭😭

Ashlei Arceneaux

Absolutely agree. SM keeps leaving these idols out there to get their careers ruined. Over nonsense. Lucas hasn’t been seen or heard of in almost 2 years. A generic “apology” and that was it. They better not do this to Seunghan or I’ll be hella pissed.

sanitizerr

RIGHT?? im so furious like he is just living like any ordinary person out there! my bias🥺… to add to this, like wtf is happening to my biases like Ahyeon and now Seunghan😔

pup_kay43

The said thing is that things have been happening to them since pre-debut and it's just ridiculous for a group who isn't even half a year old. From sungtaro leaving nct to join RIIZE to fandom name change from SUNRIZE to BRIIZE to some of the members being sick to the seunghan constant leaks to Seunghan leaving/going on a hiatus. Like SM should've been taking legal action since the first leak. And the man has done nth wrong either. People need to stop treating idols like they ain't human and to stop engaging is all this hate train things for no damn reason. And the thing is that kpop is so damn toxic, even more so nowadays. And at the same time it's also so damn addicting. Been a kpop stan for 7 years now and now for the first time I feel like just letting go

Anonymous

I can only imaging what idols and actors whose careers have been ruined in recent years are going through. They have been silenced and black listed for being human beings and having a past. Imaging putting years of your life into training and striving for your dreams, finally making it, but being benched for…….smoking!?!? Unfortunately people with nothing better to do, not fans, will always exist to cause trouble. I truly wish more agencies would stand strong behind their artists because wtf. Why are we letting miscellaneous voices and people win. Doesn’t make any sense. Seriously waiting for the day where they no longer feed into this peoples sick twisted delusions that they own these idols and should have control on how they live their lives

Ashley

I'm so tired of this

Anonymous

The things I want to say… Seunghan is my ult and I’ve had many biases that went through a similar situation and it breaks my heart cause it’s always about the same thing, Idk how some people can be just vile and want to end someone’s career using such mundane things against them and sm is doing nothing to protect them. I just I feel so helpless and sad. I love RIIZE with all of my heart so I just hope that he can come back but I don’t want to get my hopes up *sigh

eve_ss

This is soooo unfair! While I understand it takes a lot of time to gather proof and evidence to sue anyone, still SM should have done something and not just stay silent! But ofc, I'm more mad at the accuser and poster of Seunghan's private vids. Seunghan doesn't deserve all these hate! He was just a normal teenager! WTFFF. I guess, he really need to take a break because everything that happened is so mentally exhausting for him. But again, SM could've have done something so it doesn't get to this point. Ugggh I'm so mad and tired. 😭

Lu Na

And the boy was just recently practicing with his members for the year end shows. He even said he is staying longer nowadays, cause he has lots to show us. He was active and present in all of their schedules. I just can’t imagine how he must have felt.

jeffavenue

yes thank u i forgot to mention that part about the friend. i’ve added an edit.

Roda

I'm actually worried for him. I hope he's okay right now. 😢

Holly

I am so bummed 😔. He deserves so much better. He should be DEFENDED, not persecuted 😭. I love RIIZE so much and I have adored seunghan since the nct show that introduced him.

awfm

Its really so annoying that this keeps happening with sm groups especially. I have hope the indefinite hiatus is true because SM is filing a lawsuit against those who exposed his private life and they didnt announce terminating his contract. I feel like they wouldn’t start a lawsuit if they didnt keep him. Im REALLY hoping they’ll just keeeping him hidden to appease the korean fans until the lawsuit ends. Its insane how the industry KEEPS validating those rabid fans who will now actually believe these idols careers is in their hands. its so unfair to Seunghan because he’s being treated like a criminal or a school bully. They’re the only boy group that grabbed my attention after EXO ( they’re keeping me entertained while my baby jongin is at military ☹️).

reginanoelle

i am just so livid and infuriated right now! like c'mon can we all just have peace, ENJOY the music and the performances WITHOUT having to meddle in people's private lives and their past!?! at this point i am really convinced there is some sinister takedown plot against RIIZE - imagine SM's newest boy group in 7 years doing INCREDIBLE starting off their MONSTER ROOKIE trajectory, and being hit by these ridiculous issues right off the bat since debut up to now when they are charting so great & becoming more popular and loved by so many in such a short amount of time?! many are threatened and jealous and it causes me much grief that these things have to come into play and why can't SM hit these conspirators hard by using any legal means necessary! why are they letting them ruin all their combined efforts?! SM do better as leaders of the industry and don't let these deranged people and irrational fans win!!! many people are behind Seunghan and are looking forward to Riize as SEVEN!

Meryl Chen

tbh, i don't even think RIIZE has that many of its own fans at this point to say anything about kicking Seunghan out...most of my BRIIZE friends don't even bother with all the videos/photos leaking out...but there are so many other groups' fans or the general kpop fan joined in the chaos judging and criticizing him...it's just not fair

sp

At this point, agencies should realize that some people are just ridiculous to the point that they criticize every little thing idols make. They should really protect their idols more and take actions. Of course, idols also need to be a good example but they are humans, they make mistakes. I just hope that this time would be different. Seunghan has a lot of potential.

jinkichimchim

I think he will be removed from the group and this is a big mistake from SM , Seunghan definitely is a key member with visual and skill! i don't know how i can receive this group without seunghan :(

Meryl Chen

(hug hug) always prioritize your own well-being and emotions! It's okay for you to feel tired too, and it's okay to take a rest. I feel the same way that this group meant so much to me as well...

Anonymous

I love him and all riize too :((

Anonymous

I don't think he needs a hiatus but on the other hand, I feel like it needed to be done so people know that he and SM are actually aware of everything. Everyone knows that things get out of hand and this is a way to block further criticism in the future, as long as he isn't kicked out. I also think he needs the break himself to come out stronger

Samira Garcia

I really wish him the best

Candice Blair

They should've let him keep working and said we were aware, but our artist did nothing wrong and would continue his activities.

Ashlei Arceneaux

I don’t think a hiatus does anything but hurt the artist. They don’t need to completely shut him out to let the public know they are aware of anything. Riize just got announced for MMA and I bet now he will miss it cause of people.

Anonymous

What I feared the most happened and I don't know how to handle it, I just hope that Seunghan returns with Riize and with all of us who love him, this hurts a lot.

Casual Art

In the post. They mentioned they were taking action against the people invading his private life.

Casual Art

When the crowd doesn't cheer for you face to face, it's heart rending. If you weren't there for Henry being introduced as a member of Super Junior, don't say someone should stay active when the crowd is unpredictable. It takes a lot of mental fortitude never knowing what you will face.

Flaze

I'm so mad... these are all just so unfair, I feel so so bad for Seunghan. I fear that I can't fully support Riize with a member missing, especially if it's Seunghan (my bias). Hopefully he's getting help emotionally and mentally, and he can comeback soon.

Calida

I completely agree, the first video regarding his past relationship I thought it would just blow over and that’s it but whoever these people are has completely targeted Seunghan for their weird obsession or whatever motive they have. I’m getting real sick and tired of this reoccurring trend in KPOP, one person is targeted with bs speculation and once they are kicked out people start to realize they were innocent the whole time in most cases. It just makes it real hard for me to even keep investing in newer groups because these companies refuse to defend their artists. I’m so done at this point

Flaze

While it is true that it's scary to stand on stage with an audience against your side. But it is also scary to be in a break without fully knowing you'll ever come back. I stand more on not taking a break, since I'm sure there are few, even one or two, on his side in the audience. Nevertheless, what's done is done. My heart breaks for him... I feel so bad.

Anonymous

Exactly :((. They just rookies and briize still too small. Not fair at all

Sed

I feel you Jeff. When I saw all your Riize reaction on yt. I immediately subscribed to your Patreon and watched all your videos knowing that you really loved all riize members. And it’s so much fun to have someone who I can relate too especially when you give your opinion or comments on how great they are as an artist. It makes me happy. This is just so sad to end the year. I am so excited to watch their year end performances and now knowing they have to adjust, it’s just 😩. I know better days will always come and hopefully when they comeback with their full album next yesr. Seunghan is there with them together. 🧡🤞

Antonia

yes. to all of this.

Eurone

I really hate how this is going, knowing how those "indefinite hiatus" work with those type of so-called scandal, I'm just really scared for what's going to happen next. I get removing someone of a group because of past bullying stuff or else but he did none of that ?? He got into a scandal for doing normal human being stuff...As much as I hate the person who leaked all those "evidences" I hate knetizens even more. They need to learn that idols are still human at the end of the day.

Christine Nguyen

Could SM have a case for defamation the account that has posted the most recent controversies made threats to reveal more if SM didn’t remove Seunghan from Riize? Isn’t this proof of malicious intent to ruin his career?

Christine Nguyen

I have more hope for Seunghan ( compared to Lucas) cuz the statement wasn’t this basic AF PR statement just announcing an hiatus with no details about what SM plans to do. It might be for the best because the perpetrators are not letting up . At least SM has more legal ground to stand on to do something cuz privacy was violated multiple times. We might not have to wait as long since SM has more actionable steps they can take instead of just trying to wait for the heat to cool down

Lutfi Sapiee

Same jeff , i freakin love all the sm artist but the company really suck when it comes to defend their artist . Like just having a girlfriend and smoking ( its bad for health fine but he did not endorse it , also hes 20 very legal adult) is not considered normal for idol? Hes human just like us . How come they didnt acknowledge the leaker first before anything.

jeffavenue

defamation suits are very hard to prove in court. sm would have to show the court the amount of damage/financial loss etc. i think they can go more for invasion of privacy (idk the laws on that tho). they can probably issue like a take down and ban notice but it’s so hard when it’s anonymously done cause the person can just lay low for awhile and then start again. if they’re caught twice then maybe then they can issue jail time or something similar. any lawyers here that can add to this?

Christine Nguyen

But didn’t SM’s statement say they have identified the anonymous poster (probably someone Seunghan knows) ? I have heard defamation cases are a little easier to win in SK and that SK takes privacy/ID Really Seriously

Anonymous

And this is how I found out... No words. SM being SM

joannatanecaa

My bias wrecker getting attacked for nothing. He finally got to debut after so long and then this happens???? I was watching some of your RIIZE contents before hearing the news and it just broke me.

Candice Blair

But has that happened yet? Why assume it will? I know it has happened before but it didn't in his case.

Anonymous

I think we also need to give him time to process it. If your personal and private convo was leaked but also framed in the way that you keep doing it when it happened a long time ago, the betrayal and the distrust can also be in your head. I remember the mbti episode when he and shotaro talked about how they most often react with feelings first. As much as I don't agree with the hiatus, some people can't work right away and if he messed up, it will add more fuel to the people who are targeting him.

hayun lee

lucas was accused of pressuring girls to have sex with him while seunghans worst crime was being a normal young adult. why are you comparing them?

Alex L.

I was referring to the hiatus, not the action of the artist. I apologize if my words caused the misunderstanding.

Michelle Lanie

I completely agree. I’m furious as well. When it comes to being a fan I have loved watching Seunghan dance, sing, and get along with the other members. Anything else is none of my business. Shame on the fans calling for his departure from the group and shame on SM for not having his back and protecting their artist. I hope he takes time to process the pain he must be feeling regarding his privacy being violated. I can’t imagine how that feels. Ughh and then having to see him apologize was awful because he did nothing wrong. The fans and SM owe him an apology. Not the other way around. The situation is just so disgusting and embarrassing. Fans need to treat their artist better and so do the companies. This is getting out of hand.

Anonymous

it's so heartbreaking 😭

Mille

In fact you know what is the most chilling thing is that once again a person's dream and idol career is destroyed by Internet gossip, even when he has done nothing wrong, seunghan's years of practice all come to naught, he is only 20 years old, he is abandoned when he needs the company to support him most, I am really disappointed in SM

K

First of all, i'm frustrated about the hiatus, but maybe because its taking a toll on him as well. As an SM group stan since 2nd gen, SM always takes action silently, though i'm disappointed about thr fact that they could've stoppee it from the ig live already... but they failed to do so which resulted to more leaked videos. But kinda weird coz for SM standard, with this kind issues, its not enough for them to put their artist on hiatus, so that's why i think Riize team actually is also letting him take a break to breath. Still, could've stopped the series of events from happening. Second, hate whoever is leaking these things Third, hate all the people hating on him, smoking is actually very prominent in S. Korea, so tbh, like were in 2023. And, its normal to have an EX, i mean look at how adorable and lovable he is. This woke culture is not so woke to be honest. THESE people are just pretending they know better but at the end of the day, its like the olden days, talented people who should be spending their time showing their amazing talent to the world are being pushed back to a box. I just hope his doing well. I hope he knows he did nothing wrong.

K

Tbh, i think those were haters who pretends to be fans

Lena

I could not sleep last night after seeing the news and the fact that they have deleted Seunghan's highlight stories on instagram makes it seems like this might be more than just a hiatus to me. My heart truly breaks for Seunghan, he is being punished because people invaded his privacy and showing him being a normal teenager and now this has to happen? SM at the end of the statement claims to try their best in protecting their artists but they do such a poor job at it! They should have started in investigation with the police earlier, getting evidence and suing this person doing this. Instead Seunghan one of the most talented rookies, his dreams are crushed and I can't even imagine what the rest of the other members are going through right now because of how close Riize are .... this is beyond heartbreaking