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The five Challenge Dungeons were something many parties attending Nevermore delayed doing for a variety of reasons. Partly because they were naturally easier once you got stronger. Even in the ones where your stats were normalized or reduced, your conceptual comprehension should increase over the decades of doing all the other floors. Another reason many waited was to do the entire Challenge Dungeon at once.

Once the seventieth floor was cleared by many groups, they decided, like Jake’s, to tackle them. Some also did the dungeons before, as while the fourteenth city floor did mark when all the Challenge Dungeon would be fully unlocked, some of them were fully unlocked even beforehand. As an example, the Test of Character was fully unlocked after doing the floors that were meant to teach “lessons” to the Nevermore Attendees, such as the one about Plagues. The Test of Character was also one that would either be fully unlocked or entirely unavailable due to how it worked.

Before that, the Minaga Labyrinth one was fully unlocked after the Minaga floors were done, making it the first Challenge Dungeon to fully unlock. The final one that fully opened in this incarnation of Nevermore was the Colosseum of Mortals, where one had to clear floor seventy to become able to challenge the Grand Champion. If one did the Challenge Dungeon without having done floor seventy, the Battlemaster would have said that the Grand Champion wasn’t available and to come back at a later date. Later, in this case, being after you had cleared floor seventy.

Many of the best parties had begun reaching this stage by now and were moving onto the Challenge Dungeons properly. As had been mentioned many times before, the Challenge Dungeons were where the true top of the Leaderboards would be found, and they were, by far, the most efficient way of getting points for those talented.

Each Challenge Dungeon could give a Grand Achievement upon completion, though it would only be a normal achievement without any percentage multiplier if the performance was too bad. The Grand Achievement usually ranged from 5-20%, with 20% being given if one fully completed the Challenge Dungeon with an outstanding performance. It was usually viewed as the maximum, though, of course, Jake knew there was one step higher. 25% was only given if one did the “impossible” within a certain Challenge Dungeon. If they achieved something that no one was meant to achieve.

With 20% usually considered the limit, the “maximum amplification” one could reach was thus 100% if one had a perfect performance in all five Challenge Dungeons. Needless to say, this never happened, as just getting a 20% multiplier in any of the Challenge Dungeons already put you in the top tier.

On that note, someone like the Fallen King was not expected to get a peak score. In fact, no one expected Unique Lifeforms to. Unique Lifeforms had very narrow Paths by definition, and while they could often do extremely well in some dungeons, they nearly always completely flunked in others if they didn’t suit their particular talents. They could still go pretty high, though, just not the peak.

An overall amplification of 30% from all Challenge Dungeons was considered excellent, as just getting 10% was extremely hard, and this was around where many would expect a Unique Lifeform to land. 40% was at the level of true geniuses and were individuals many factions showed interest in. 50% was where one reached the territory of truly versatile monsters. For reference, getting to the Grand Champion in the Colosseum of Mortals – while expending all lives - would give just 10%, so one had to be at that level in every single Challenge Dungeon. Most people would be over the moon for just beating the seven Champions, but one had to repeat similar feats five times over to reach 50%.

Above 50% was where one entered the realm of genuine monsters. Beings that already had high levels of divine attention on them who were already recognized by the gods. Some were expected to get at least 50%, such as Ghost King Azal, Davion of Valhal, and several other peak geniuses from major factions. Jake, Dina, and Ell’hakan also fell within this group, which was expected to reach at least 50% overall.

However, even if they were expected to reach at least 50%, reaching 60% would be considered absolutely exemplary. Anything above 70% was practically unheard of, and the stuff of legends. Those who reached that level were considered the true contenders for the very apex of the Leaderboard. Going above even this, one reached the level of being an all-time record contender.

So, with Jake being at 35% after only two out of five, he was definitely on track to make his dear Patron a proud snake. Even if he did believe that bullshit Test of Character had been complete bullshit.

--

He understood Jake’s frustration. The Viper truly did. It was an odd place, and in all honesty, one that he would argue didn’t truly fit that well in Nevermore.

The Test of Character was an odd Challenge Dungeon by design. Jake’s inability to understand why it worked as it worked was entirely purposeful, and while it did provide part of the challenge, it was far from the whole reason.

Vilastromoz knew that out of all the Challenge Dungeons, it was the one the Wyrmgod had exerted the most control on to turn it into exactly what he wanted. To fulfill the role he desired for it to fulfill. And that role wasn’t necessarily to offer a challenge… that was just a requirement by the system to turn it into a Challenge Dungeon that qualified to be part of Nevermore. It offered some diversity in what kind of dungeons there were, but it was also a Challenge Dungeon archetype that had been around for almost every single era.

In reality, it wasn’t really made for the benefit of the ones actually doing the Challenge Dungeon. Not really. It wasn’t even made for people like Jake or the other people who it was expected to get a high score. Instead, it was created solely for the Wyrmgod’s own goals.

The Test of Character did an acceptable job of assessing someone’s character and allowed the Wyrmgod to get certain data points. It allowed him to categorize people who even got “low” scores based on their personalities and character. It allowed him to learn of their morals, quirks, mental thought processes, and sometimes even red flags that one had to be worried about. Not red flags, as in someone turning out to be a psycho killer, but red flags, as in potential weaknesses that would display down the line, such as an inability to show patience or deal with long periods of nothing. Something anyone who truly wanted to reach the peak had to be capable of to not go insane. And with the system actively not allowing someone without a mentality capable of evolving to evolve, it could potentially be the doom of a talented prospect.

This information would then be sold to whoever was interested. Some factions had an open subscription of sorts to get information on anyone from the faction it was worth getting information on. Especially places like the Holy Church used this data to weed out or address people who could turn into dissidents or problems for the faction in the future, but even places like the Order of the Malefic Viper also made use of it.

Other factions had open calls on interesting new prospects. Someone getting a very high score in the Test of Character could indicate someone had a unique talent or was suited for specific Paths. The personality and character of some people even resonated with some extremely powerful Paths, to the level that such a personality and sense of character was the only requirement they had to fulfill.

Jake’s former coworker, the Augur of Hope, was a brilliant example of this. His talent in magic was nowhere near good, he couldn’t fight for shit, he wasn’t adequately assertive at all but a total pushover, and he entirely lacked the ego someone like the Viper was looking for in those he believed could become truly strong.

Yet he had gained a Path many sought after. One recognized as a peak Path among mortals. Because what he did have was an uncanny ability to understand others, an unwavering will to guide them, and a selflessness that was almost nauseating. He would do what he believed was the best for others, even if it meant setting himself on fire. The Augur was simply born to be an Augur… but he did need a little push to get there. He needed the interference of the gods in the Tutorial to set up the scenario for him to realize his Path.

Many of those who did the Test of Character could be close to such a realization. They just needed a small push that some factions would gladly give them. The Primordial Church was a big recruiter of people who were just a single step away from being fanatics and recruited them almost en masse after they participated in Nevermore.

If Vilastromoz had to explain Nevermore and especially the Test of Character to Jake, he would very much compare it to those social media things his planet used to have. Nevermore was free to enter and participate in, but it still had to bring in resources for the Wyrmgod and others who were involved in developing and maintaining it, and one of the best ways to earn Credits was to sell information. As the saying goes, if something is free, you are the product. This was also why the Wyrmgod sent tokens to enter the World Wonder all throughout the multiverse. He wanted every C-grade in the entire multiverse to come to Nevermore if he could.

Of course, despite this data-gathering, some people still had special privileges to not get theirs sold. Usually, the Wyrmgod would refuse to sell any information on young prospects to rival factions, while he would never sell anything related to someone like Jake, considering he was a Chosen. He would keep all that under lock and key and only give it to the Malefic Viper. Save for a few scenarios like the Colosseum of Mortals, where others had made deals to still get notified when certain things happened, nothing would get out.

All of this is to say that a situation where several gods actively seemed to want information on someone they, under normal circumstances, wouldn’t get was odd… but what was even weirder was that they actually got what they wanted.

“Oh, Jake is done with the Test of Character Challenge Dungeon now!” Minaga said with a big smile, getting the attention of the others in the room. It took some of them a second to remember that Jake was the name of the Chosen of the Malefic Viper, but once they did, their curiosity peaked.

By now, it had been nearly two years since the Holy Mother and Blightfather had arrived, and things hadn’t gotten calmer. Nobody had left, as frankly, two years was barely any period of time to them. As immortals, their sense of time was entirely warped, and even just sitting still and staring into nothingness for a century or two could go by entirely unnoticed. Especially when one had several avatars at the same time. The primary focus of the god could always just shift elsewhere as one waited for something to happen with one avatar.

With no one leaving, it had only made the room more packed, though naturally, the Wyrmgod could just spatially expand it if he saw fit. As the Viper had expected, the gathering of five Primordials and Nature’s Attendant in one place did not go unnoticed. In the first few weeks, factions were apprehensive about doing anything as some sent representatives to figure out what was happening, which was when the Wyrmgod just decided to effectively say “fuck it” and just allowed any god who wanted to enter to do so.

This had resulted in the room now having around fifty gods present, as they saw this as an invitation of sorts. Even the Dao Sect had sent one of their Wanderers, as they called them. People who actively trained out of the Dao Sect’s controlled territories and were more in tune with the rest of the multiverse.

No other Primordials had shown up, which honestly didn’t surprise Vilastromoz at all. The Starseizing Titan, Rigoria, and Aeon never showed up unless expressly asked to, Stormild didn’t show up even when asked to, and Eversmile and the Daofather were both too unpredictable. As for Yggdrasil… well, she always just sent Nature’s Attendant as her mouthpiece whenever anything happened, and he was already there, making it as if there effectively were half of all the Primordials in the room.

The gods that had arrived were all unknowns that the Viper didn’t care to know but were all representatives of major factions, including different internal tribes of the United Tribes, the Altmar Empire, and many smaller and larger Pantheons. These gods were naturally not at the level of someone like himself, and this had resulted in the room effectively being split into two parts. One where the Primordials, Nature’s Attendant, Artemis, and Minaga were, and one where everyone else gathered. As for their objective for coming?

It appeared not even they knew… as the Viper came to learn that most were just there, so their faction felt they were present if anything important did happen. The chances of something noteworthy happening when half of the Primordial’s meeting had to be high, right?

That’s why anything that was said or done caught their attention. Minaga calling out that Jake was done with the Test of Character were the first words said to everyone in over a month, as most gods only directed their conversations toward certain individuals.

“Indeed he is,” the Malefic Viper nodded at Minaga’s statement. “And his performance was pretty much as expected.”

10% was really good for Jake in that one. Jake wasn’t particularly suited for the Test of Character Challenge Dungeon, and in all honesty, the Viper didn’t put much stock in the place at all. It was a useless trial for someone like Jake. It didn’t align well with his Path, and it wasn’t like the Test of Character was any indication if one had the mentality to become a god as long as the person got above a certain score. In fact, the Viper remembered that some currently living Godkings only got 5% or even no evaluation back when they did Nevermore.

“His review was pretty harsh, though,” Minaga said. “Harsh, but fair.”

The Wyrmgod grunted disapprovingly, but before he could say anything, Valdemar spoke up. “If he is done, then what are you waiting for?”

With confusion, the Wyrmgod looked at Valdemar. The Malefic Viper instantly understood as he brought his palm to his face. Yeah, there was no way the Wyrmgod would agree unless-

“Very well,” the Wyrmgod smiled in response.

… unless the dragon god was being unbelievably petty because Jake didn’t like his dungeon.

--

Jake stood in the white void and was just about to leave the Challenge Dungeon for good and get out of that horrible place when the notification in front of him suddenly began warping as another sentence was suddenly added on, and he was given a choice.

Do you wish to exit the Test of Character Challenge Dungeon?

No further actions can be taken within this Challenge Dungeon.

You can choose to either exit and appear at the Challenge Dungeon entrance or at [Redacted]

He looked at the changed message for a second, threw a glance at where he was being watched from, and shrugged as he accepted to go to the very exciting place known as [Redacted]. Eh, sure, what’s the worst that can happen?

Comments

Naotsugu97

TFTC! It would be hilarious if redacted was the Minaga dungeon. 🤣. OMG! Did I snag first? Finally, validation of my worth!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Devin

goddamn cliffhangers!

Valhazstromoz

OH COME ON ZOGARTH! your killing me man

Captain Nuclear

Is Jake about to interviewed ?

Michael McMahon

[Redacted] on a Friday... If I could put the KAHNNN gif in here I would. Thanks for the chapter!

Strato Junon

I hope this is going where i think it's going. Ty for chapter

Invictus Red

What's the over/under on Monday being a POV chapter for someone else as Zog leaves us hanging till at least Wednesday!? 😂 TFTC!!

Anonymous

This cliff feels like a personal attack

dragonslaver

Once more INTO THE CLIFF!

Jaydan Man

I'm so mad at this cliff. TFTC

Anonymous

Oh boy

Justus Saucedo

YESS HES GOING TO MEET THE ALL THE GODS HELL YEAH. Also the wyrmgod being petty is amazing 👏 👌

Beardo

I wanna see how Sylphie is doing! Love your work

Rubeno

There is something that's weirding me out. I always wondered how can Villastromoz call himself as snake when he is a dragon? We have never seen him as a snake and has he ever shown his true form in this story it was always a dragon.

Stevean Bozek

YES, JAKE'S BEING INVITED TO THE BORING PARTY FINALLY

Atoms88

Wonderful cliffhanger for the week

Shiralee

I really, really, really want to read the next chapter now.😅 The next chapter can't come fast enough. TFTC.

Ethan

Classic Jake. Insults an extremely powerful god, immediately takes up his offer to go to an unknown place

1FantasyFanatic

The dao of The Cliff is strong with this one.

Jana

“I’m pretty sure I told you I’ll charge you for viewing parties?” - famous last words. (Well, not really- but I still can see Jake saying this even with a bunch of primordials present)

Anonymous

Back in the tutorial it was confirmed he started as a snake. But I'm pretty sure he only gained consciousness when he turned into a Wyvern at C-Grade.

BerciTheBeast

**Proceeds to somehow win while doing something previously thought impossible.**

Frederik

Please I beg u send jake in to the room full of gods and let him act like everything is fine please I am on my knees just make it Happen

Rubeno

That's the problem. As in Chinese mythos he is snake who became a dragon and as a dragon we have ever seen him. We have never seen Villy as giant snake. Symbolism matters for ones path and Villy call himself strongest snake in universe while being dragon.

Lawrence Dillon

Jake about to do some super heretical things 😂

Stevean Bozek

I'm pretty sure the Wyrmgod is getting his full Yelp review of the last challenge dungeon in person with an audience. It's gonna be fucking hilarious

Kurai

He evolved into a dragon but his origin is a snake. One he clearly still considers relevant as seen throughout multiple examples

Ritsu

It has been a while since he leveled his profession.

Stevean Bozek

He may be a Dragon god now but his origin is rooted in being a snake. He may have evolved but at his core he still recognizes his own humble origins.

Christopher Robin Sævre

Zogarth sure does have a talent when it comes to giving us the most painful cliffhangers each week, it’s getting impressive really

Tom

Now that’s just mean

Rubeno

Sure his origins may be a snake but he evolved from that form long time ago. If he was something like Jormurgandr that would make sense . But he is a dragon, he makes use of dragon abilities like Dragons Breath as mainstay of his Path etc. Him calling himself a snake when he is not one runs contrary to his Path.

Athyrium

That was just cruel. Can't wait for Monday's chapter. Hopefully it will be [redacted]

kry

The scene we’ve all been waiting for, and we have to wait all weekend 😩 anyway, thanks for the chapter! I’m hyped for Monday

Endern

He will meet with Artemis a lot sooner then he thought.

Rad

Bro, it’s gonna be the chapter after next. I’m calling it now that next chapter will be another one looking at other characters. Even though I’ve been waiting for the “next” chapter since it was mentioned Artemis was getting messaged.

Rubeno

@Bozek, It doesn't matter who he recognize himself as if he is not that person. He is a dragon, his mainstay of his path is Dragons Breath, he has dragons scales etc. What looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, has organs like a duck etc is a duck. He should be something like Poison Dragon god rather than Snake God.

SpitEoll

He was a snake that evolved till he became a dragon. That's why all reptiles get a bit of records from him, same as humans with Valdemar as explained a few chapters ago

Rubeno

Okay, but then his true form should be World Snake or something. Not a blasted dragon.

Clint

Oh. Great point! And gaining levels is worth Nevermore Points.

AA

Seriously Zog, do you have a chapter plan with Friday cliffs highlighted? Or do you just troll us by sheer coincidence?

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

Myridex

Something tells me that Jake is going to break whatever -REDACTED- is

Kris Piskorski

This divine gallery development is definitely my favorite thing that happened in this arc besides the valdemar fight

Anonymous

Bro this isn't Naruto don't give us useless filler chapters

Radzig

For villys sake! Ill have to wait for next week. Cheers.

Menphy

Can't wait for the next one, haha. Thanks for the chapter!

Allpa

LoL Jake just spend 2 years filling out a personality quiz.

Mat

With Wyrmgod opening the living room to varies gods, why is Yip of Yore not yet there? Other gods present are surely throwing a spanner is Villy’s plans.

CaptainFlowers

Seriously? A full on half filler chapter with info we've read I can't believe how many times now?

StuBee3

TFTC 😎

Zachary Blevins

I don’t ever complain about cliffhangers But it was a pretty cheap shot to make this a Friday chapter You bastard !

JonO

Troll lol lol lol lol. His path is freedom and power. Hence he can call himself what ever he likes.

Rubeno

That makes him a coward though who is scared of representing what he preaches

Asas

If there was a downvote, you would get mine.

JonO

Um so what if he presents the token to artemis in front of everyone and all the gods realize and start spreading the news that they're [redacting]?

Darthnarciss

Le gasp, how dare we get given exposition and character examples! For shame!

Darthnarciss

This was an exposition chapter, with Villy and other gods POVs thrown in. It's a good chapter. Relax.

PatienceHoney

I was laughing so hard while reading this chapter I am lucky my neighbors didn't drop in to find out what all the ruckus was about. Thanks for the chapter!

Darthnarciss

Becuase he is a snake. His current form is that of a dragon, but in his heart and mind, he's a snake, who happens to also be a dragon. He evolved from a viper, into a flying viper, into well whats bigger and stronger than a flying viper. His symbology is that of a snake, he is referred to as both a snake and as a dragon by others.

Rubeno

If he is snake god then he shouldn't be ashamed to have true form as a snake. Otherwise he is just yet another dragon god

Red45jimster

Definitely want to see this from Artilemis pov

Hodge Wasson

Jake's about to get away more attention than he predicted. Especially as I imagine he'll be hanging out on the primordial side of the party, therefore inadvertently causing a bunch of more minor gods to lose face to a mere C grade mortal. Classic Jake shenanigans.

BelligerentGnu

I don't mind the god expositing, reading about the reasoning for the challenge dungeon was interesting. But good gods you miserable bastard, really? On a *friday*?

BelligerentGnu

If this is the case, I cannot wait to see Jake tell the Wyrmgod his dungeon was shit to his face.

Decibel790

Ohhhhhhh boy. This is intriguing. Thanks for the chapter!

Michael

Even though this is a cliffhanger, it's still ironic how Jake took a personality test then proved his personality by just saying fuck it and is about to chill with 5 primordials, minaga, nature's attendant, Artemis, and 50 other gods. I would laugh if one of the altmar gods is tiarsis from back in the undergrowth dungeon. Either way, excited for everyone but Vilas to be staring at Jake and questioning how the fuck he won't be bothered by everyone's presence

Anonymous

It was also stated when describing the dragonflights that he still identifies as a snake even though he became a dragon later on

Jonathan

Eh, sure, what’s the worst that can happen? A bonus attempt at the Test of Character, double or nothing.

Rubeno

Okay, but if he is god of snakes he shouldnt be ashamed of taking form of one. It makes him a hypocrite otherwise.

Owen Kaz

This is about to be the funniest shit I've ever seen. What a cliff lol

Owen Kaz

Who says he would be ashamed? He chose the path he did to escape his homeworld. Not because he didn't want to be a snake anymore. There has never once been an indication that the Viper is even close to being "Ashamed" of his origin. No, he revels in it.

Rubeno

If he revels in it then his form should represent this pride. Otherwise it makes him a hypocrite.

Blake Noyes

Filler chapters have to exist in a book. Grow up. This isn’t coming out only for patreon and when it goes into full book format these chapters make sense in context. You’re just bitter cause you’re reading one at a time.

kyle

No no the cliff!

Blake Noyes

I’d say defiance of the fall is still goated for consistent cliffhanging

mrthorwahl

Artemis about to get all hot and bothered.

Chrisbirdie

I officially name you the King, no Primordial of Cliffhangers. You absolute dick. XD

Michael Fannon

He's going to visit the gods and end up drinking with Valdemar, Villy, and the rest of the primordials while the other gods try to comprehend what they are seeing.

Mat

He identifies as a snake. Read Chapter 659. Also race is always stated as ‘before godhood’ for all gods. Remember Villy stating Eversmile race

Chase Koehn

Terrific thing to wake up to on a Friday. I’ve never hoped Monday came faster before. Tftc!!

Anonymous

Calling it now, Jake just unknowingly agreed to retake the test of character and is about to go full murderhobo in his NG+ run.

kyle

Am I the only one who wants to see if they can be the first person ever to be the chosen of two gods?..... Especially two primordials.... I know that would be hard to write but I would love to see it!

Andrew Omeara

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Why on fridayyyyyyyy

Rubeno

In this setting personal beliefs have consequences. For example dragons were showed to be represented by dragons breath and antimagic scales etc . If person is a dragon then those things will be important part of ones Path. Villy has those powers and they are instrumental part of his skillset hence he is a dragon as seen by those blessed by him become dragon kin not snake kin. His legacy does not include snake related powers instead people get draconic ones. He may identify himself as a snake but he is not one. He is a hypocrite.

jb qspam

I mean 2/10 is a rave review in that context. Probably only got it due to the multiplier and the storybook page.

James Squibb

I'm so mad yet so thrilled for Monday lol.

Darral Cate

These damn cliffhangers

Darnell Maxwell

I love it when God's are this kind of petty. Monday's chapter is either gonna be a fun one. Or were gonna go back to the stories of a few NPC's to troll us. Time to flip that coin.

Rubeno

@mat, Well, if Villy is a snake as a god then it's alright. Him advancing as a dragon till godhood made sense as snake races as worse than dragons...usually. But still as a god he shouldn't promote damnit dragons. His legacy should be snake one!

Darthnarciss

He is considered the Origin of snakes, hence why all of the snakes love Jake. The dragonflights recognize him as a Dragon, hence the stromaz on his name. And people that evolve to be closer to him become dragonkin, specifically Malefic dragonkin becuase its an evolution, a viper is a base monster race, you can't (as far as we know) de-evolve, so the closest step for a baseline evolution pushes you to a Malefic dragonkin. BUT that doesn't change the fact, that the Primordial can be whatever he wants, chooses snake symbology to represent himself, refers to himself as a snake, thinks of himself as a snake. The system has dragons as an endpoint evolution for snakes, just becuase they evolve to a dragon, doesn't make them not snakes anymore. And his legacy isn't one of dragons, but of himself

Rubeno

Sigh, alright then but still it would feel much better if he personally was a snake and race that his blessing promotes would be some kind of cool snake 🐍. Instead we get... "dragons" with heavy air quotes.

RonGAR

A gathering of Primes and G's ... NICE!!! Love the atmosphere. A good time will surely be had by all. LOL

Matthew Avery

Seems like the perfect time for a chapter about the goings on for the rest of the team. Then maybe a chapter about the goings on on Earth. After that we could check in with stuff in Greensto... wrong novel, the order and Meira. Right, guys? Best idea ever I know. Downvote to agree. 🐍

Micah Molina

And so, the heretical arc begins, as 50 gods witness a C- grade chill and interact with Primordials not showing the "proper" amount of deference... lol

Adam O

Zogarth you sick sick man. How can you do this to us!

Amazon Shopper

When the filler gonna end?

Isley

good chappie

Vinstro

I'm already prepping my sleeping roll and the standing rock pebbles under Zogarths bridge.

Hunter Thornton

Who knew one of the oldest beings in existence could be so petty over an honest review of their dungeon. I’m shocked 😳

Vinstro

No no no. I'm just waiting for Nature's Attendant to start talking and then Artemis steels herself, walks up to Jake and slaps him then says "you and I. Bows. Marriage. You're my prey."

Chris

Awwwww man, leaving us hanging.

kingofshibainu

Oh this is going to be good! I hope he still gets the chance to complete the rest of the challenge dungeons but this is going to be so much chaos

SwiftVogel

Jake's whole personality can be summed up in 4 words: Fuck it, we ball.

Eiv

Omg omg. Haha. Of course a cliffy Friday! Love it! ❤️❤️

Michael Fannon

I imagine almost as awkward situation as Valdemar randomly commenting about Jake hooking up with his runemaiden in front of Artemis.

Austin Richins

My money on her taking people over in character dungeon, totally interrupting the stories and making people feed her treats and give her scritches.. But, you know, as a humanoid.

Michael Fannon

So far, every primordial shown has their real personality has been between chill as hell to mischievous prankster. Villy really did describe them best as one big dysfunctional family.

TwoMoreYears

Hell of a cliffhanger for the weekend. Really interesting that Jakes instincts weren’t screaming at him to avoid redacted.

Michael Fannon

Oh Jake. " what's the worst that could happen" is tied with "what could possibly go wrong" and only slightly below "hey, hold my beer" as flags before utter chaos happens.

Darthnarciss

Hmmm, the Wyrmgod is being petty, I see 3 options. A) [redacted] is this meeting room, making Jake deal with being the center of attention, which the Wyrmgod wouldn't normally agree to, Jake wouldnt want to deal with, and it kicks everything into high gear. B) [redacted] is Test of Character 2: Eff you too version. Or C) [redacted] is actually the Exit Door, and it kicks him out of Nevermore, ie the whole runs done. Final point tally and all.

Kenneth Dennis

TFTC. Does anyone else read ALL the comments every cliff just so they don't feel alone hanging on said cliff?

John Balman

Damn Friday tease chapter lol

Tucker Glick

Wyrmgod is becoming one of my favorite characters. Who doesn’t like a dragon proud of his dungeon? Who is being petty to someone who gives bad reviews. I bet most people are too scared to leave bad reviews.

kry

Honestly I might just laugh at that point 😅

Hayden Leech

Real personality? Their real personalities are monstrous. Each responsible for truly countless atrocities. I don’t care how friendly they seem when hanging out. These are terrible beings.

kiwi

"what's the worst that can happen?" *Appears in a room containing half of the most powerful beings in the universe*

Tommy

FUCKING BRILLIANT CLIFF! Apologies for shouting and swearing but this is peak brilliance I love it

Caelum

I'll make a bet that the nevermore books sell substantially less than any of the other books in the series. I've been debating dropping this patreon, as frankly... it's been extremely boring. Not only is this filler, but it's filler inside of filler. 90% of the things that happen in Nevermore don't matter.

JJB4345_80_815

*Sigh. Dusts off plans to build a time machine to get to Monday faster, just need to make a quick trip to Radio Shack... Oh, crap!* So, with Valdemar making the request of the Wrymgod, I have to believe that [redacted] is the God room. Valdemar wants to meet up with Jake, right? And, of course, Jake being Jake, he's going to go STRAIGHT to Artemis, temporarily blowing off Vily and Valdemar. Then, after those 3 conversations are done to JAKE's satisfaction, either dresses down Anora for her followers behavior on Earth and forcing the Risen off the dirtball, or goes up to Wanderer of the Daofather and asks what was up with the Monk fight, or goes to the Altmar God... My goodness Jake has a LOT of chaotic options! Dang it, building the time machine would take longer than a couple of days anyway...

Michael Fannon

It's more of an issue that you need a time machine to find a RadioShack to get the parts to build a time machine. And yes, Jake's going to go striaght over to Artemis after seeing how uncomfortable she is with the presences of all the Primordials and will end up shielding her with his presence. Without thinking about what would happen when 50 gods all see a C-grade capable of shielding a god from mutiple primordials. I think only Minaga will be the only one not shocked and muttering about cheating bloodlines.

Anonymous

Can't wait to listen to both the new books this month as well

thomas johnson

Does anyone which chapter was the one where they featured all the primordial? It was a bonus chapter but I can't find it.

Bobby B

We probably won’t get the the god meeting room until later next week. Chapters on the others will be first. Still… great stuff!!

Tyler S.

They may not directly harm him but unwanted migraines/mental damage may happen

CoolMusette

Their curiosity peaked -> piqued

Tyler S.

Waiting for Jake to smoothly walk up uses his presence to calm her down, before she freeks at how calm he is

Brian Block

I have been reading/part of this patreon community long enough that there are a list of users who I always read, a list I always ignore, and everyone else gets scanned through. If something catches my eye I read it and possibly add them to one list or the other.

Tyler S.

It would be funny if he was brought into the room in a disguise and nobody but Primordials notice untill he greets Villy and Minaga

Tyler S.

Like standing tall in front of half the OGs like it was nothing

Tim Schillinger

To top it of, Jake should ask why the 50 gods are standing in another corner and not joining Valdemar with the beer 🍺.

John Grizzly

Maybe it is a previous installment or previous version of the challenge dungeon? One more fit for Jake. So that Jake will like the version more to soothe wyrms ego lol

Tim Schillinger

Or Villy asking what is with the succubus (not remembering the name atm) and if he is starting a harem with Artemis as prime.

Jason Hardman

I imagine the next chapter will be a lesson on what Zogarth will do if you gave him 2 stars

Tim Schillinger

Genius. I can already hear the announcer (Minaga): WELCOME TO THE REMATCH BETWEEN VALDEMAR AND JAKE!

Numbzy

Naw, he walks straight up to Villy, shares a beer with him and makes some witty remark about how much better it is with a friend, as the whole room just stares at him.

Ral

This chapter felt like a fallen king pov setup then bam! Five lanes crossed to get the cliffhanger exit! 😄🫨

Cryfdwr

Then Valdemar puts his arm around Jake and toasts with another beer (or barrel of beer). Jake gets standoffish and says, “I’m not much of a hugger, Valdy” which makes Valdemar love him even more. Artemis shyly approaches, Jake sees her and they ignore everyone to go get primal together.

GraveZ

Perfect time for a new Meira chapter :D

Burkes

While i dont think he would appear in the middle of the room with a bunch of gods staring at him, it would be pretty funny.

Travis Nevins

alright so I am curious how many percentages their whole team has right now? Jake has 35% by himeself...then before the dungeons there was the 25% for minaga fight, 5% for the witch thing...I forgot the rest. either way the teams total is gonna be kind nutty. Side note can't wait for Jake to be jake with all those gods and only the 8 that were there before the others join know what's up...gonna be funny to see how that plays out. Artemis, valdimar, Minaga and Villy's reactions will be great.

Ty Cooper

I can't wait! Remember when Jake wanted to have beers with Clock? Villy said if it were anyone else, he didn't know if they could even withstand it. With all these God's and Primordials among them it is going to be great. He is going to blow their minds and create one of the biggest legends, screwing yip's plans up completely

D375

That would be an awesome way to subvert our expectations + really fun to see Jake's realization / annoyance.

IceHeart

Search "side story" on Zogarth's page and scroll down til you find it, there aren't too many

Kenneth Dennis

It's been fun to see others on here like me that love the cliffs because it just means the story is good. I should check out the discord more I think.

Tommy

“I am blarg the god of blerg” Jake: “sup. Trying to have a convo with ma boy Villy here” 😂

Tommy

Did Minaga make him appear sans clothing one time? Or was that Wyrmfather, or am I thinking of another story Either way, he appears in the buff, makes eye contact with Artemis and winks…

Chris

I think since the Patreon redesign, you now find 'Side Story' as a tag under the 'Collections' tab. Its number 2.

Luke Scheffe

One of his legacy skills is Fangs of the Malefic Viper. How is that not snake?

Luke Scheffe

Most people who say that still think of never more as a dungeon, rather than practically a planet for elites.

Luke Scheffe

Yip’s a coward who won’t go anywhere near a grouping of five primordials, at least one of which publicly wants him dead.

Anonymous

I would fucking love to see Jake shield Artemis with his cheater bloodline. With how shitty the Blighfather and Holy Mother were to her earlier, i could see it as part of a response if he tells them both off for being asshats on his planet. (Villy laughing his ass off in the background at the pure absurdity would be ideal)

Zizawah

I love these types of chapters as much or more than actual fight chapters so am very happy for fillers and side stories.

Cryfdwr

Valdy decides Jake should be HIS Chosen, Villy disagrees, their fake argument turns into a real one 🤦🏻

Anonymous

Final score only happens after 50 years and is set by system-tracked real time. I don’t think the wyrmgod would be allowed to cut someone’s run short like that without system intervention since nevermore isn’t just a normal dungeon and wouldn’t allow for things like the scoreboard if the wyrmgod could rig results in this fashion.

evan maples

You and your damn cliffys zogarth

C. Adkins

Can we take a second and just appreciate the “you sound like a member of the Primordial Church.” Line? Like, I disagree with OPs original statement but that line is fire.

Kyle

Hmm, something petty that the Wyrmgod wouldn’t normally agree to. I bet Valdemar has been bugging them about letting him do a victory toast with Jake. Considering how apprehensive those gods were a few chapters ago about trying Valdemar’s alcohol, it would fit as payback that’s technically a “reward” for his performance in the Coluseum. I assume the System would prevent the Wyrmgod from doing much more than that to a dungeon participant.

JonO

All the extra suggestions are just as golden lol

JonO

I honestly think Jake will knock back and tank whatever valdemar gives him. He'll feel it in the end, but he'll survive with minimal effect (according to his rank of course... which means he'll catch fire, squirm a bit, but definitely not die)

JonO

She'll get all hot and bothered by it because he's super badass.... only to find nature's attendant creating groves of fast absorbing cotton under her seat because she gushes the fuck out.

JonO

I wholly agree but it's also his own fault since Jake knows he's watching and not being discreet about it either lol.

JonO

Jake is oblivious to anything less than outright flirting. Look at Carmen.... she had to practically strip and say let's go already dumbass! Lol. So i don't think he'll even notice Artemis at first, but that will likely be her noticing him first and going all shy about it. He'll naturally go to say hi to villy first only to ignore him when he does or says something ignorant like alas my chosen hath arriveded!. Hell definitely get some face time with anora and the blightfather both to talk about casper and Jacob. Then he'll notice Artemis and choose to let her remain shy for now. Talk to the others and then meet up with Artemis to discuss their BDE and BBE respectively. (Bde is obvious but bbe is big bow energy lol)

JonO

I have to wonder if Jake building up his side of the narrative doesn't help yeeto out at all. I mean yeeto were already the underdogs.... so making the gulf of influence that much wider can only help their cause more if they win anyway.

Michael

Jake would totally prove that the other gods are bitches for not accepting a challenge

Ty Cooper

Ha and the other God's looking on with ah because they couldn't even hang with that many primordials.

Ian Allen

Unless the author was saying that their curiosity maxxed out, in which case peaked would be the correct word rather than piqued...one of those odd situations where either would work, imo

Ian Allen

I follow DotF as well-- I feel like this Zogarth's story is more compelling. Which do you prefer?

Zizawah

I enjoy DotF when I get my hands on the book (ie. must read the chapters all in one go) because I tend to skip over what I consider the boring parts (like too much cultivation musings and explanation). I like the humor and the overall world that's created even though it's a more perilous place for Zac (his life and that of his followers are on the line most of the time). However, I cannot read or enjoy DotF on a chapter by chapter basis. I kind of subscribe for a month, then come back a few months later to another month, etc. With Primal Hunter, the chapters can stand alone. I enjoy them on a day to day basis and even re-read them. There's more humor, snark, action, etc. at least for me with PH. It's just fun and like all others say, like crack. Weird as it is, I look forward to Mondays to wake up at 7am to read Zogarth! Definitely addicted. Another series I enjoy on a chapter by chapter basis is RinoZ's Chrysalis and Book of the Dead. Both are excellent.

Numbzy

Gotta ask, do you recognize me? And if you do, what category am I in?

Anonymous

The best cliffhangers are always on a Friday! Zogarth you devil!

Inv7ctus

Am eagerly awaiting the "oh wow, having a party whats the occasion" when he appears in front of a bunch of gods. Or better yet "damn it villy, what did I say about having watch parties? Tell me you at least charged the guys admission"

Seen Death

Nooo i kept refreshing, forgetting it was saturday so no chapter. Tyfc tho! Lookin foward to the party haha. Those random gods are gonna be even more confused when they see a C grade be the center of attention

Linzey17

There was a chapter last Saturday. Pretty sure it's currently Friday where he's from

Seen Death

I dont think its hypocritical, he started as a snake, snakes have scales, fangs and an elongated body - many characteristics that dragons have. Idk if dragons were directly created, or if they were all like villy and evolved from a different creature but i think its effectively the same thing. It would probably be more problematic if he cast away his snake identity at this point. Hes been able to shapeshift to a human form since C grade aswell. Jakes probably going to barely resemble a normal human before he reaches godhood aswell lol, his eyes, wings, glowing mana veins (if im remembering correctly) etc. i think the other dragons just prefer to view themselves better than their un-evolved species and that could have played a part in their race's identity/traits

Seen Death

Im gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, and its more like he tries to get the cliff done on thursday, but theres just too much content and it ends up pushing the cliff material into the next week lol. Every chapter is mostly a cliff to me though so i cant be mad either way

Seen Death

It is a good line, although i wouldnt take offense to it haha. Quite perfect for this size of a disagreement. Anyways, i also really appreciate world building.. knowing how things work, understanding perspectives of non-main characters... it did seem like wed get a forgotten king snippet but it was instead to further understand villys perspective/expectations- something we rarely get so i thought it was cool.

Michael Fannon

I think Meira is going to end up going to nevermore with Miranda, so Monday might be a Meira and Miranda chapter.

Seen Death

Idk man, valdemars last brew literally had a white dwarf (the hottest type) of stars in it, and lit literal gods on fire lol. I think thats a bit too much for palete and his bloodline to handle haha

Michael Fannon

An even more when he can handle the presence of mutiple primordials. And even more when he can extend his protection to include Artemis. A C-grade can use his presence to shield a god from primordials. Going to be a riot.

Seen Death

Depends on whos viewpoint its from. Pretty difficult to get to godhood without destruction, even jake has genocided (or in the process of) a massive insect colony on earth haha. Besides, like zog wrote the other day "good and evil is a fickle thing". also im pretty sure its jake's herecy that allowed him to talk poorly about such a powerful gods creation, most other people (who fear the gods or somrthing) would never say that

PatienceHoney

Noooo... I just happen to be here on a Saturday morning reading through some of the comments I missed from yesterday... because... well... ummm... So, anyway... how 'bout that cliff!

Justin Mott

Team has 35%, they got an extra 5% during the time skip. So Jake has 70% total atm

Samantha Sandlin

I think it would be hilarious if he shows up in the viewing room, glances around, ignores all the bigshot primordials and goes have a chat with Artemis.

Darthnarciss

Spaced on score being time locked, my brain was like :you leave you're done". OK I'm still saying option C) is the exit door, but it's just a troll, Jake just needs to reenter and get back, so it's just the "leave challenge dungeon" option with an additional annoying step(s)

Matteo Butera

Oh damn! I so much called it was going to happen, but I didn't expect it to happen so soon. Would love to get the Artemis POV of Jake's arrival as well as his POV in the next chapter.

Matteo Butera

Absolutely. I read all comments written as of when I read the chapter. Sometimes they are a lot. But hey, it feels like we are one big family streaming Jake TV. And I love seeing how many people think the same things I do. :)

Michael Fannon

Valdemar uses gods to experiment with to find the brews mortals can drink, like the one he gave Carmen. I'm guessing Jake will get a similar one.

Michael Fannon

Naw, Vald and Villy have a real argument. True, it seems they are just good friends and sparring partners, but in reality, they are locked in true combat. Over which one of them is the best brewmaster

Paperback Hail6

I bet that is what will happen. Or he will just go have a casual meet up with villy. That'd be hilarious

Palmer Evans

Going to sleep hoping for a banger chapter when I wake up 😌

Kade

I am laughing so hard at the ending of this chapter 🤣

ABTelford

Friendly edit: “what’s the worst that COULD happen.” (Keeping conditional conjugations past tense.)

ABTelford

and I do love the “what’s the worst that could happen?” Line - it had me giggling because it’s Jake and Villy, so…pretty crazy shit could hit the fan! 😄