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This started out as an outtake we were recording while waiting to start doing an episode about the play Slave Play, and it spiraled into an hour-plus conversation, and we just put off recording the Slave Play episode altogether  until later in the week. Enjoy.

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Manny Marx

I think a lot of young guys have been socialized by Eurocentric beauty standards from TV to porn.

Javionne CGee

We have to be honest about how the A$ap Rocky's and Travis Scott's of the world are the result of a political economy that has de-centered black audiences from the cultural product of hip-hop. They are safe for white hipsters. So is Joey Bada$$. Also, peep how A$ap Ferg proclaimed that the American dream is still alive because of his own success. These guys have swallowed the cultural cues of white america wholesale. They are just trying to get paid.

Peter Fishbeast

This was a good episode, but there were some insane film opinions at the end. Tarantino is a very obvious choice to pick for a favourite director, but he’s still very highly regarded by cinephiles. I have a very conflicted relationship towards him, he seems like a thoroughly awful person - vain and narcissistic, and he treated Uma Thurman appallingly on Kill Bill and turned and blind eye to Harvey Weinstein‘s abuses for years, he also has a very weird and problematic obsession with the n-word and is possibly a racist. But he’s still made several masterpieces - Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Inglorious Bastards, Reservoir Dogs and The Hateful Eight, and despite everything that’s wrong with him everyone on Twitter is going to go see his next film and we’re all going to spend several weeks discussing it. And one of you claims Antoine Fuqua is a better director?! Fuqua is nothing. He’s a hack. Nobody cares about his films other than Training Day. Who watched The Magnificent Seven? Nobody. Who watched Southpaw? These are just nothing film’s made with no personal vision or style whatsoever. He just arbitrarily goes from one script to the next. I doubt he even has creative control of his work. Who is debating and discussing Fuqua? Nobody. How much time was spent discussing Equalizer 2? None. If Kenny wants to believe he’s a better director, that’s his right, but he can’t just toss that out there as though it’s something we’re all thinking. That’s an extremely fringe viewpoint which nobody else shares.