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VERY IMPORTANT SURVEY - PLEASE READ TO THE END BEFORE VOTE!

  • "per-creation" payment type(amount of paid posts = amount of money from 1 patron: 7 works=7$) 30
  • "monthly" pament type(fixed amount of money based on "tiers" system like: 5$, 10$, 15$ and etc.) 70
  • 2023-08-01
  • —2023-08-08
  • 100 votes
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Hello. For the past year I have noticed a constant outflow of patrons. I won’t even know how to find out the reason for the outflow, because those who left anyway will not see the post if i ever ask them here why, but now I want to know an opinion from all of you. Still, how do you feel more comfortable being here? I mean there is 2 payment system on Patreon:

1. This is a payment "per-creation"

2. This is a "monthly" type of payment.

From the start and until now I have worked on 1st system(per-creation). But it has a lot of nuances, both advantages and disadvantages. For me, the first option primarily serves as an additional motivator to work and not be lazy. Thus, I am pleased with myself and believe that I deserve the funds that you spend on supporting me. The disadvantage of this system is unfair people - thieves. Since they can access all the content by paying just $1, download it all in 5mins , and then leave by chargeback their pledge. As a result, because of this, all content is posted to the sites of these thieves. And hence the next disadvantage comes from this. Why would people pay when they can see it all for free? At least I trying to track this behavior and ban people who do it. And believe me, there are sooooo many people on my black list here. Some of them still had the audacity to ask me to unban them, pretending to be fools who did not understand what they were doing. 90% of the rest perfectly understood why they were banned and no one wrote a single message to me. And in the end, I came to the conclusion that in last year I lost almost half of the patrons, peak amount was 356. Accordingly, my income has halved, and expenses have increased 4 times, due to the fact that I left for another country, and I need to pay for rent and other things, some of which are much more expensive here than in Russia. Please do not take this as an attempt to put pressure on pity, it's just a fact.  

If we talking about second type, then here 1 advantage for me it's stable and fixed amounts of payment for everyone, but at the same time this is disadvantage for me from the point of additional motivator to not to be lazy and etc. Like if can do tiers and etc, but what i can give in that tiers i have no clue. Like i can separate posts and give 8k versions for highest tires and 4k for lower ones, and regualr FHD images for basic, but i don't want to split up my community, it's sucks. What else i can do? How to make this system effective for you and me, I don't know...  

So if you have any suggestions please leave them in comments. Or if you have some thoughts about other things about type of content and etc. Also i want to ask have you ever had the urge to unsubscribe? Well, like once i did something you didn’t like very much, or i started doing less of something you like more than other things? Or something of it was too much? I asking for your honest answer, I am not touchy, and I need this to understand how to correct the situation. Perhaps i need to include some characters that everyone missing, or vice versa, refuse amount of some others, and things like that. In general, i need to do something, but for this, I need statistics.  

I also want to touch on the issue of the monthly outflow of patrons. Have you ever wanted to unsubscribe because the number of patrons for some reason dropped sharply in the start of the month and you started to think something going wrong, or i did something bad and people started unsubscribing and you also started worry about it? If in short It's just how Patreon works. Every month when the charging period comes, some people have auto-confirmation turned off and the patreon freezes their accounts of such users, making their subscription inactive until they confirm the payment, but nevertheless they still have access to content, but they are removed from the counter of active patrons from the main page. After the payment is confirmed, Patreon returns them back and their subscription is counted as active in counter again.

So back to our question: With which payment system do you feel more comfortable being here?


Comments

captainsir

Love your work, Shizzy. I'm here for the MK renders and I'm into the whole range, e.g. futa/non-futa, action and pin-ups. The non-MK robotic or animalistic models do nothing for me but I know some of those are non-charged and/or tests. Finance-wise, the only times I've had to cancel are when I've had to carefully watch my money that month. I'm perfectly happy paying a monthly fee, $5 is the sweet spot for me for basic tiers offering new HQ uploads. I hope you can work something out that supports you better. 🙌

Bappo

I'm not too knowledgeable on how to help, but I do wanna say I will continue to support you no matter what. Your work has always amazed me and still continues to do so. I just wanna say though, if you ever see me cancel and then resub, it isn't because I took any thing, I occasionally have financial issues. I don't download images as to not get into stealing, so I just wanted to give a heads up. Best day to you, and I hope everything works out better for you. :)