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Movie Mindset 10 - Stop Snitching: Jean Pierre Melville's Arch-Criminals (Patreon)

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2023-06-28 11:00:06
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2023-07

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Will & Hesse look at two from French director Jean Pierre Melville: 1970’s Le cercle rouge and 1969’s Army of Shadows. Both “crime” films of sorts, Le cercle rouge is a classic of the heist film genre, while Army of Shadows reframes the WWII-era French resistance as a kind of criminal organization. Both films obsess over process, trust, honor, “snitching,” and cool-as-fuck French guys wearing trench coats and blasting cigs.

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Equality State Of Mind

17 minutes in on The Red Circle, there's a shot of an elevator indicator going from the bottom floor to the top. That's when I said, "Fuck this, I'd rather let Hesse and Will tell me what happens."

Gordon Schmidt

I wasn't too hot on Red Circle or Le Samourai but Army of Shadows is perfect.

Alexander Fuchs

sad to not hear germany mentioned among the best film countries ... 1919-1933 & late60s-mid80s are incredible runs tbh + all the exiles

KO

I can't decide if Matt or Kath would be a better commenter for the Gein-based Chainsaw Massacre films. She did grow up nearer Plainfield than Matt

Tim O'Connor

Both of these movies absolutely fuck, and you should all watch them.

Corey Reynolds

Can I request a Madds Mikkleson non American movie series? Have y’all seen “the Hunt” and/or “Another Round”. My boy Madds is making Star Wars and Indy movies while funding his pet projects. Amazing work is being done in the Netherlands.

Anonymous

In light of Will's recent comments on the death of cinema, here's Jean-Pierre Melville in an interview from 1971: "I don’t know what will be left of me fifty years from now. I suspect that all films will have aged terribly and that the cinema probably won’t even exist any more. I estimate the final disappearance of cinemas as taking place around the year 2020, so in fifty years’ time there will be nothing but television." https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/1079-melville-on-le-cercle-rouge

Rohmer Simpson

Melville does build suspense into the barbershop scene (specifically in cutting to the Marshal Pétain poster), but - and this might just be my sentimental side talking - when I saw it was Serge Reggiani who emerged from the cellar, I knew Lino Ventura would be alright.

Anonymous

Thinking about potential horror choices, and someone last week or the week before mentioning the dearth of woman directors so far in this series, and thought it would be remiss of me to suggest Antonia Bird's Ravenous, with one of the greatest scores ever recorded, and so bloody it used all the fake blood in Canada.

Anonymous

with all the crime movies so far a hong kong crime/triad ep seems like a great fit, election 1 and 2 came to mind first for me but there are so many amazing choices

Anonymous

How do you guys feel about Russian films? Will said his top 3 countries for filmmaking are US, Japan, and France which I agree with, but feel like Russia could be up there higher.

Rohmer Simpson

Rewatching ARMY OF SHADOWS - I think it works out sequentially that Cassel's character gave up the baron and his men. (Gerbier explains in v/o that they were arrested and executed without trial. This is just before the hospital/Gestapo HQ break-in.)

Matthew Krueger

Really enjoyed this series. Like all good criticism it revealed so many things I'd missed while it cemented the movies even deeper into my brain. It's made me a better movie-watcher. The curation might be the most important part of that, but as someone else has already said: I trust the process. I love the idea of Movie Mindset as a sort of postmodern practical mysticism - a cult of our own that we can all be the leader of while still keeping us in (mostly) friendly contact with other cultists. Speaking of which, I'm looking forward to October (cue Silver Shamrock commercial). Thanks again!

Poppy Chulo
>>111978383

I finished it for the first time last night. I enjoyed it a lot. However I am puzzled why did Jean Francois turn himself in? Was it because it was the only way he felt that he could help Claude by getting into his cell?

Kirstwb

Vogel in le cercle rouge looks like handsome Kramer

Rohmer Simpson
>>111978383

I think, like everyone else in the film (that is, except for the Nazis), he’s being carried along by a number of irresistible forces - one consideration that only recently occurred to me: since he denounces himself and gives a false name, (a) no one can be punished by his colleagues for betraying him and (b) no links can be made between him and his brother.

Anonymous

Can't believe you dropped that godfather spoiler without any warning

Marcel Szabo

Jansen's wallpaper gave me the DTs

Michael Polacheck

Movie Mindset request: a comparison review of H.G. Couzot's Wages of Fear and William Friedkin's Sorcerer.

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The French left laughed at Army of Shadows because it knew the Resistance was the FTP and groups like that, whereas the other elements of the resistance (the ones shown in this movie) either did next to nothing or were handing Jean Moulin over to the Gestapo. In this movie the people helping the resistance are a barber with a Pétain poster on his wall, an aristocrat, two bourgeois brothers - it's absurd. Those were the elements that supported Pétain, generally. The one communist shown is practically a child. That is not to say that Melville was bad at lighting or placing a camera or staging a scene, but the premise is ridiculous.

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