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637 - De-evolution is Real feat. Jerry Casale (6/16/22) (Patreon)

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2022-06-16 15:56:32
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2022-06

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Will and Chris talk to DEVO’s Jerry Casale about all things de-evolution, including state violence, punk rock, media, advertising, record industry hacks, Ohio, freaking out your audience, and whether or not humanity can escape de-evolution, or if we’re doomed to repeat until we fail.

Check out the new vinyl release of Jerry’s solo LP:  https://www.geraldvcasale.com/products/12-inch-lp-gatefold-red-vinyl?variant=42652243525819

And the video for the I’m Gonna Pay You Back single mentioned in the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kv2UMoynOw

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Dez Martin

the guy who helped make the Swiffer commercial jingle YESSSSS

Anonymous
>>86082245

To be fair. He said they did the Swiffer commercial because the woman’s bizarre glee at doing housework was the same kind of stupid video DEVO would make, they were just doing it for them. Not that his excuse makes it completely forgivable but I think it’s a good rationalization especially against the backdrop of people like Carrie Brownstein doing credit card ads.

Dez Martin
>>86082245

I'm not judging them. Tim and Eric have done mattress commercials that I love it's all good

Anonymous

The Dry Boys never cease to amaze me with the interviews they manage to arrange.

Retrospecter

Has he heard of Polysics? They’re like a Japanese DEVO cover band of their own, I’m curious how they’d stand up to the man himself. Though it’s hard to really draw a line between critique and pastiche of critique anymore when everything is absorbed

Anonymous

Umm…Foghat is good.

Uriah Wilson

As soon as I saw that this was a musician interview I went straight to the comments to see the absolute meltdown some people have because they didn’t get their weekly riffs n bits fix.

My Name

awesome interview

I am become reply guy

This was one of the best episodes in a while why are so many people complaining?

murt pie
>>86164346

Yeah, this is great. Chris is seriously underrated.

Anonymous

Let's be real: outside of Chris (and I'm being a bit generous), the Dry Boys really don't know enough about music to even do an honest interview with a renowned musician. They don't write, record, or play music; they don't have broad enough tastes to properly talk about music; and they tend to only nod along with their musical guests. I feel like I would've loved this episode if there were more pointed and substantive questions.

Anonymous
>>86112657

It isn't an especially good interview. That's the problem. It feels like an Xer nostalgia trip and no one in Chapo is even an Xer.

Elliot Matheny
>>86187699

This one was fairly successful, since Casales is essentially a based lib. But yeah, I doubt a chapo interview of Philip Glass or Wynton Marsalis would be particularly compelling

KO
>>86164346

Chris has his own pod about music though that isn't CTH

Whitey
>>86187699

If you've come here for hard-hitting interviews of musicians, safe to say you're totally in the wrong theater. This is political waxing culture war talk show, get a grip guys.

SF
>>86164346

The epic gritties get extremely mad every time there's an artist interview on the pod. It's a law of nature.

etienne
>>86187699

there's this form of media called "magazines". not a lot of people know about them but I think that fills the niche of what you're saying you want in terms of content. Hope this helps!

The Children of Jack Acid
>>86082245

The dusters get an A for "accessing hard-to-reach areas under the stairs or whatever." But they are just TOO disposable. Each time you swipe one across the top of a shelf, it automatically looks as dusty as a vacuum cleaner filter that hasn't been changed in years. And unlike a feather duster, you can't shake the dust OUT and reuse it over and over again. And Swiffer mops are TERRIBLE! No matter how well I sweep beforehand, there's always lint stuck in all the corners of whatever room I just Swiffered. And the Swiffer mops that spit cleaning solution on the floor as you mop are just a WEE bit too sticky. And so in addition to even more lint, your floor will look stomped-on again within 24 hours as everyone's shoe dirt sticks to the stickiness. And what's CRAZY is that now that they're here, I can't seem to avoid using them entirely. They're shittier than a real mop, but they're also faster than a real mop. It actually confuses the HELL out of me. Because theoretically my life MUST have been worse before they came along, or I wouldn't be Swiffering now, right? Now, I wasn't taking notes at the time (I was trying to spend all my weekends in the desert doing shrooms like a good little L.A. cowboy). But probably if I went back in time before I adopted Swiffer technology and looked at my apartment, I would probably see that my top shelf didn't even GET dusted, ever. And my bathroom floor would have pee on it rather than merely lint. So perhaps Swiffer did improve SOME things. Marginally. But still... it's like Swiffer came along and somehow made cleaning up the home a Faustian bargain. Except instead of paying with our souls, we pay with landfills that will be stuffed to the BRIM with shitty plastic-y paper-y Swiffer GOO for the next couple MILLENNIA--and little pig-in-a-blanket rolls of lint staring at us from across the bathroom floor every time we take a shit.

Riley Bloomer-Ludwig

The guy is wrong about most things : terribly nihilistic, facile, and clearly very impressed with himself and his categorical views on basically everything, all while preaching the impossibility to know anything. That said a very fun episode that I appreciated ; very interesting to know more about that band, its period and its philosophy.

Elliot Matheny
>>86082245

Yeah that’s a very fair point. There is a solution to the waste problem, though - fill all of the empty plastic bottles in the pacific garbage patch with used swiffers, giving them some much needed density. Once the garbage patch has sunk to the ocean floor, it can be built up over a period of decades, until a new landfill continent arises - trashlandia. That shall be the land of the new millennium, the great new frontier, and perhaps a land in which we could finally achieve utopian socialism.

Anonymous
>>86187699

i've been reading music mags my whole life and i'm a sucker because they've sucked the whole time.

SF
>>86220048

nah he seems pretty good overall

Anonymous

following up on midwest bands and younger talent thats probably devo inspired - any mark winter related band is worth mentioning : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nMPaOEB_QI https://www.avclub.com/exploring-the-weird-lo-fi-world-of-devo-core-1798258451

Adam Whitley

This is the first time I’ve ever heard punk described as being “anti-intellectual “. I guess they never heard of The Clash.

James Camp Fortson
>>86475879

Johnny Lydon had a pretty smart ass coment about The Clash being Marxism with a catchy melody.

Noah Mingus

Wonderful interview. What a guest! Thanks Chapo, you r cool