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Patton Oswalt returns to The Trap. We discuss the relative performance styles of the Black Israelites and Donald Trump, then move on to talk about Trump's public interactions with the Parkland survivors, reactionary 80's action films, Jon McNaughton's terrible art, and America's stunted self-awareness. Finally, we together return...to The Sauce.

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Dillon Storie

nice transition from actual father figure in the last ep to spiritual father figure in the paid ep.

ChattyWhacker

Holy f*ck, I just mistook Patton Oswalt's voice as Jimmy Dore's. Now I can't get the image out of my head.

Quinn

Chauncey Gardner for president

BuzzfeedChris

Referencing "Magnolia" with an actor from "Magnolia"

DoctorCocktopus

Did you realize it wasn't Jimmy when he didn't spit out misinformed, barely-thought-out opinions?

Will Harahan

For whatever reason this episode isn’t showing up in podcasts but is here

Igor Calija

I generally like Patton Oswalt, but he's a weird fit for Chapo. All giggly and shit, laughing at references he clearly isn't getting, not challenging anyone on anything...

Chris B

He's a fan of the show. He said as much in the past and has retweeted links to episodes.

kctoo

Funny how much Patton digs Felix's pure gold latent adolescence sense of humour! It's hilarious! I find them both a little more endearing after knowing that

Chris McCarthy

The Patton episodes are awesome.

J P 3

Matt's right about spending and guns. In 2016, outside political spending in 2016 was $54.9 million for the gun lobby, $3 million in outside spending for gun control advocates. 2017 lobbying spending was $10.2 million to $1.9 million. This is true of a lot of issues. The side with more money on issue advocacy and election spending, will typically win, unless there's a mass of organized single-issue support on the other side of the equation. via <a href="https://www.opensecrets.org/news/issues/guns" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.opensecrets.org/news/issues/guns</a>

S.L.

On 80s revenge films, just yesterday I saw a twitter thread that took a weird turn when someone posted a clip from some inspired folks involved in a crowd-sourced remake of the 1987 classic RoboCop. This vimeo clip took one of the original scenes and cranked up the blood-&-gore to '11'. Link to that tweet: <a href="https://twitter.com/RageofBaltimore/status/968655920673775621" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/RageofBaltimore/status/968655920673775621.</a> TW: a lot of shot up dicks; it's horrible and hilarious.

WhiskyJack

Remember that time he saved Deputy United States Marshal Raylan Givens?

AA Ron

I was ready to unsubscribe and post an angry Youtube video if you didn't go out on Lil Uzi Vert. Such was my Lacanian desire.

turd_snadwich

Still not showing up in Podcasts!

Austin White

why isn’t it showing up on the podcast app?

Austin White

what am i paying 5$ a month for again? shame on you chapo trap house .

Lion Summerbell

If you guys wanna see the apogee of bananas '80s 30-rope hyperviolence, watch Cobra. Stallone's character is called Marion "Cobra" Cobretti.

David Murray

Give. Me. That. Sauce.

Blake

idk why i care, but felix was so close to realizing his privilege here, then aborted with the whole "media makes us all like the poors" take at the end of his rich-kid reverie. sorry, but i'd kill for my recurring "themes" to be limited by the news cycle, and not dream-annihilating immiseration.

Gareth Hedges

For what it's worth, First Blood was filmed in Vancouver with a Canadian crew. It was one of the most successful Canadian films ever--along with Black Christmas and Porkys

stink nasty

Minneapolis has Black Isrealites. I thought everyone did.

Dick

Name of the song at the end?

Erik Weissengruber

The director also did the wonderful Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz. With Richard Dreyfuss and his cackling annoying best.

Evan Landman

chapo biting doughboys

San Frangelico Guy

Why isn't this loading in the Grey Wolf Feed? I am appalled that I am being slightly inconvenienced here.

Evan G

do the doughboys dip their fingers in sauce together and eat it? because then I might listen

Samuel Roberts

Huh. I've shot at that range - and still considering getting a membership so I can try out a bunch of their pistols (I've only shot my 10/22 there). I mean, an odd takeaway for sure but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dan Blair

Give some love to the WV Teacher Strike boys!

Michael Kelly

It's really bittersweet now to listen to them starfuck Patton Oswalt and the Crank 2 director and realize that aside from Amber, all these guys ever wanted to be was a more left-wing Jon Stewart (see their book and the analogue to Stewart's America book in 2004) and go Hollywood in a Brooklyn kind of way. Meanwhile, WV shuts down their schools to get a 5% raise, young people are rising up, and things are on fire. Ah well, they'll be a good Daily Show for this era, I reckon, but I guess I hoped they aspired to more.

Michael Kelly

fair enough, let he who has not projected expectations onto a podcast or other artist cast the first snark. I'm just saying that while they cleared a space for other podcasts that are more concerned with politics and change, I find them to be rapidly becoming the same ossified insiders they scorn, that's all. Maybe that's all the wanted to be, and certainly that fits well within what Will and Felix were bred for via their upper-class backgrounds. But for the rest of us proles, talk about the Chapo rise to irony bro royalty as being accelerationist--they just hit it big a year or so ago, and now they're already handjobbing Patton Oswalt about his NYC hotel suite.. To paraphrase Cushbomb's ominous commentary on Trump, "what comes next after Chapo?"

Michael Kelly

I do listen to those other shows and I will continue to do so. And I don't begrudge their success at being a more edgy version of what they have disdained in previous podcasts (SNL, Jon Stewart, etc.) but I'm just saying that their act is getting staler each time I listen. I do appreciate the sentiment though, "My Chapo, love it or leave it."

James Kellner

That's not what I'm saying. I just wonder where people got this idea that Chapo was some kind of vanguard unit that's suddenly lost its way. It's a sign of someone who takes it too seriously to think of it the way you seem to be. It's a comedy show with a relatively soft-Marxist point of view and it always has been. So its not really a question of love it or leave it, and it's certainly not "my chapo," its a question of why did you like it in the first place? I think they've stayed remarkably true to what they do in spite of blowing up.

Michael Kelly

I take your point that they have been fairly consistent with saying their show is "not politics," but they also have the biggest megaphone right now and they have given a platform to a number of straight-up political activists, and that has blurred things a bit. And while they are still often very funny, it's veering more and more towards the standard, "man shit is fucked up" line that most comedians take. Basically, the more I listen, the more I hear Will and Felix getting to keep their class privilege but now in a more hipster punkish way, Matt gets to continue his deeply bleak world view with more $$, and Virgil gets free Porg toys. Amber is the wild card in all this, as my sense is that she is actually interested in participating in a new left vanguard that is more akin to podcasts like the Michael Brooks Show, Dead Pundits Society, Struggle Session to name a few.

Owen Ginley

There's a moment after the cold open two eps ago after Will's dad is like "I have no idea what's going on," where you can hear Felix saying "This is such a stupid fucking show." I mean, that pretty much sums up their attitude, does it not?

Mike

Love this episode. You can tell there’s better chemistry between Oswalt and the boys this time around, as they’ve gotten more comfortable with each other. I hope he becomes a semi-regular guest.

Igor Calija

Could you elaborate on what exactly Chapo should be doing to differentiate themselves from SNL or the Daily Show? Because reporting on teacher strikes isn't exactly unheard of for the latter bunch of entertainment outlets. Which, let's not forget, is what they are. No one in their right mind would come to Chapo for basic information and reporting. They shit on Stewart not because he was joking around instead of reporting that "things are on fire", but because people started thinking that watching the Daily Show was the equivalent of being politically engaged. Making the same mistake today about a podcast - any podcast - would be hilariously tragic.

Igor Calija

What part of "I grew up very bourgeois" suggests to you that he's failing to realize his privilege? (Or is a tearful apology what you were after?) He was talking about the media inundating the public with sensationalist bullshit; dream-annihilating immiseration is a different matter entirely.

Anthony DAmico

I think Patton's heard the show enough to understand that nearly every impenetrable reference is an allusion to a Soundcloud rapper.

Alexander Morris

Man I am not sure if its because patreon sucks or what but the cast keeps stopping and going back to zero. Its stopped 6 or 7 times right at 30:51. Ive noticed this happens on pretty much all of the premium episodes at some point. This time though its been every 5 or 6 minutes with it stopping at starting over at 0.

Matthew

always happens to me, patreon is a frustratingly trash platform considering how much content on here i love

Dan Majesky

Patreon blows. Just add the Grey Wolf RSS feed to your favorite podcast app, and listen to it there.

david

God this guy sucks

Zen Ben

I hear you, brother. This flimsy platform is well below the big daddy’s like YouTube or iTunes.

Ilias

He seemed like a very good fit to me, and really eager to contribute to/play along with the riffs of this episode.

Nick Boyer

Can Patton Oswalt please be a permanent addition to the show?

Gregory Martin

Well those predictions about the White House Correspondents Dinner didn't work out.

Devin Willie

Mara Wilson go on Chapo?

Christopher

is matt never wrong?