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As the families gather on Driftmark for a funeral, Viserys calls for an end to infighting, and Alicent demands justice.

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Lucas

Amazing episode as well, it’s an important point in time to visit because now we see a clear line in the sand and clear sides taken and positions being affirmed by (what is now safe to mention as it was dropped by Rhaenyra)- The Greens and The Blacks. I love the escalation of tensions which was family drama of Shakespearean proportions lol- And most of all you truly get the sense that Viserys is truly the last bolt helplessly trying to hold all of this together with everything he's got…There’s much more to say about his arc this season which I will address later on but there is truly something endearing and relatable about a sickly old man desperately fighting to keep his family together and it’s why he’s a very important character-On that note I literally can't wait until Ep 8 which to be honest to me is the very definition of amazing storytelling

Anonymous

This episode is one of my favorite. Just seeing the Targaryen drama unfolding is a sight to behold.

Chuck

You mentioned Alicent's daughter might not be saying just random things. If you remember in the previous episode, Alicent told Aemond that one day he would get a dragon. Then her daughter said "he'll have to close an eye"...👀

John Walker Is That Dude

Corlys is 100% correct on history remembering names not blood. jace and lucerys velaryon last name will forever be Velaryon while baela and rhaena targaryen will forever be Targaryen. If Jace was to ever be King he wouldn’t have Targaryen as his last name Corlys sees that. Corlys thinks he has worked harder than anyone to be a head of a House he feels he’s owed more than the other nobles throughout history. Corlys wants it in the history books that Velaryon should be talked about the way they talk about Targaryens history over looks them time and time again. He think’s Velaryons are better than Targaryens cuz who are they without their dragons who respects and who is afraid of them if they didn’t have dragons. People respect the countries with a nuclear program out of fear. The only Targaryen Corlys respects is Daemon he doesn’t hide who he is and when Daemon told him to never trash his brother or their would be problems Corlys paused for a good minute to realize that man is forever loyal to people when he says he is. Also remember in episode 1 when Daemon says the council looks to control him he included Corlys by saying that he just hates Otto more than any of them. Deep down is think Daemon wanted Visyerys to murder them cuz on the day his wife and son died they didn’t give him a hour to grieve they went straight into politics Daemon love politics but family what he cares about the most. Daemon told Corlys I feel the same way about Viserys I will say the things to agree cuz Daemon truly agrees with him on a lot he basically said to Corlys I’ll trash Viserys for u my guy.

John Walker Is That Dude

The one thing I hate about Alicent the most is that she is mad that Rhaenyra doesn’t have to do her duty’s whole failing to see Laenor is gay there isn’t a single cell in that boy that is sexually attracted to a female. Unlike Alicent the king forced her to marry Laenor she had no say cuz the king ordered her. Otto is the one who told her to seduce Viserys on the day his wife and son died. The hand couldn’t order her to do that cuz if she said no what is Otto going to do tell Viserys I told my daughter to seduce on the day ur wife and son died so I can get more power. Alicent screwed herself over she could have said no without any repercussions she should be blaming her trash father.

James Woodford

Masterpiece episode imo. Also great insights from your reaction. Agree that Viserys is letting his regret for what happened with Aemma drive his faithfulness to Rhaenyra. If he were to acknowledge their parentage though it would have dire consequences for his daughter so I think that is really the only palatable choice to him.

N

everything Alicent says in relation to her duty and the fact that she had no control over her life and her decisions are true BUT in no way is it Rhaenyra's fault, blaming her for everything that happens out of pure jealousy is the reason I'm not team Alicent (non english speaker here sorry if i make mistakes)

Namikaza

Absolutely great episode. I love the transformation Daemon and Rhaenyra go through in this episode. These two are twin flames and belong together. In the last episode we could clearly see how they both lost some of their fire after 10 years apart. Rhaneyra is struggling alone against the accusations of her sons (and yes, she brought this on herself). But we also have to realise, that she has also protected Leanor. What should she have done? If Leanor can't/won't give her children. And she didn't do it behind Leanor's back, he knew it well and considered the children as his own as it is beneficial for him as well. But Leanor was never really there to help Rhaenyra in the whole political mess. Then Daemon clearly didn't feel fulfilled either. So far away from his family without any purpose or meaning in life. I think he and Leana were happy but it just wasn't enough to fill the void. For Daemon, his family's legacy is everything and he wants to be part of it. I keep saying it, Daemon never really wanted to be king. But he wanted a place with power to protect his family. And Viserys never gave him that. You see then in this episode Daemon is done. He doesn't want the consolation prize that Viserys is now offering him after the fact. And the fact that Otto is Viserys' right-hand man again must be a slap in Daemons face. So he clearly rejects Visery's offer. I think Viserys misses Daemon too and really wants him to come back. However, the way he asks Daemon is very degrading. "If you want it so badly you can have a position in my court," of course Daemon will take that as an insult. Daemon has just had enough because he clearly understands what is going on and it must be frustrating to watch Viserys make the same mistakes over and over again. Then the conversation between Daemon and Rhaenyra says so much. She is immediately open and honest with him and tells him everything that is bothering her. This reminded me a lot of episode 4. She knows Daemon won't judge her. But at the same time she feels abandoned by Daemon. Because yes, she meant what she said in episode 5, she really wanted him. Between Daemon and Rhaenyra there was always this bond and you feel it in every scene since episode 1. But here for the first time they both say and show clearly what they feel. And then the scene after the children's fight. Rhaenyra goes into attack mode for the first time. Instead of hiding from the accusations, she uses them to gain the upper hand. The very fact that Daemon is here gives her the drive to do so. She provokes Alicent and the latter loses her temper and embarrasses herself in front of the whole court. Daemon, meanwhile, stays in the background. I think that's a very wise choice. On the one hand he knows Rhaenyra has the situation under control and on the other hand it gives him the opportunity to observe everything and to understand who plays which role in this game. After all, he was away for ten years. He only intervenes when it becomes too much. And I love how he positions himself next to her afterwards. He makes it quite clear where his loyalties lie. After Laenor promises to be there for Rhaneyra from now on, you can clearly see in Rhaneyra's face that she has already made a decision. She wants and needs Daemon by her side. Many always say that their marriage is just political. I always think to myself, why can't it be both? I think it's pretty clear that they have feelings for each other. But of course it's beneficial for both of them. Rhaenyra needs a partner to watch her back and protect her and Daemon is known and feared throughout Westeros. There are few who really want to mess with him. And Rhaenyra is doing with her proposal what Viserys never did for Daemon. She makes Daemon feel needed and acknowledges him. She wants him to be her protector and I think that's all Daemon ever really wanted. So in the end they execute their first move together. This allows them to marry but at the same time it sends a message to their enemies.

N

Also the fact that it’s not Rhaenyra’s fault that Alicent have to her duty. Alicent his blaming Rhaenyra for everything like she choose this life too

John Walker Is That Dude

It’s crazy majority of this fanbase bought that they killed Laenor I didn’t from the start cuz Daemon was the one to bring up Laenor having to die I said he’s is not going to MURDER Laenor. When Laena said she misses her brother she said Daemon misses him to people thoght he was talking about his blood brother not his brother in law. Daemon and Laenor fought for three years on dragon back when Laenor told his house and Daemon I want u to going on a suicide type mission and trust that when ur surrounded I got ur back Seasmoke. Again Daemons strength is his love of family above all Laenor his family he missed him more than Viserys at this point cuz Leanor had his back more than Viserys.

John Walker Is That Dude

It’s why Daemon is my favorite Targaryen he actually studies his family’s legacy. For me when Daemon was doing nothing but studying the Targaryen history is the scariest version of him cuz he is learning what they did wrong and right.

Namikaza

That's how you write a satisfying plot twist. A good plot twist is not just something completely random that comes out of nowhere. The fact that they don't kill Leanor but send him away was perfectly constructed. If you listen carefully to what Daemon and Rhaenyra discuss, you have a chance to make it up. Many are so upset that they only focus on what they see. But there are clues there too. Why does Daemon kill a random guard on the stairs? We don't see how the fight between Qarl and Leanor turns out. In the end, it makes sense. And when you think about it. It's not like Rhaneyra that she would kill Leanor in cold blood. She spent ten years with him and they are very good friends. It would be a very big leap in her character. Daemon would absolutely do it if there was no other solution. But he also has no reason to want to kill Leanor. The two of them were at war together and fought side by side. And Daemon doesn't just kill for pleasure, which is what many always claim. He is no Joffrey or Ramsay, who are simply brutal and sadistic for no reason. So the end of the episode makes sense and you can put the pieces together. Very satisfying.

Lucas

I always pictured Daemon consciously thinking (or rather deluding himself) into thinking he was all done with the politics and just wanted to live in Pentos and maintained that for most of the episode when Viserys asked him etc...And shown in the way he stands aside observing and not involving himself for most of the dispute, but then very symbolically steps in and stops Criston dead in his tracks and getting himself involved in that one moment of instinct to protect his family was like an epiphany and an automatic conscious return for him into the thick of it, and then clearly standing on Rhaenyra and her children's side symbolizing he has officially entered team Black for good.

Chantelle Miles

No sorry ur wrong about Laena saying Daemon missed Laenor. Daemon definitely missed his brother & Rhaenyra more. Laena says it clearly to him "I miss my brother Daemon, as i think u miss yours"

Chantelle Miles

Erm no Daemon didn't say he'd trash his brother for Coryls lol...and No Coryls doesn't believe Jace will stay Velaryon when hes king. It's already been confirmed that Jace will be Targaryen after taking the throne not Velaryon. The other 2 boys will stay Velaryons which is how its a good compromise for Coryls, like he said in ep 5.

Shandler

Your analysis of Alicent's character is, I think, spot on. I think a lot of her anger and bitterness towards Rhaenyra does come from jealousy. I also think that it's possible she was (at least earlier in life) in love with Criston Cole. Rhaenyra having sex with and subsequently discarding someone Alicent was so infatuated with will only have deepened Alicent's resentment. It's another example of Rhaenyra doing something Alicent can't. Also, not to be THAT guy, but as we're getting to the end of HOTD will it be replaced with another show? If so, could I respectfully nominate The Last of Us? It's another HBO show and stars the actors that played Oberyn and Lyanna Mormont in Game of Thrones, so there's a little bit of crossover! Regardless of what you decide to watch, i'm sure it'll be enjoyable to binge along :-)

Chantelle Miles

I love how my girl Rhaenyra finally went on offensive mode this episode, since she has Daemon back on her side. Yes Rhaenyra's parenting and boys put Allicents to shame, apart from Helaena who Allicent also thinks is weird. Jace & Luke defending their cousins Baela & Rhaena was so sweet & respectful. Whereas Aemond was fine being cruel, hateful to all the kids including grieving girls who did nothing to him until he got nasty. The good kids already sticking together & bonding was great even when they ganged up on Aemond, he was asking for it & causing real harm. Allicent words have made her kids this way, yet she tried twisting it saying Lucerys tried to murder him when she has no idea what happened yet, just the end results. Both Daemon and Rhaenyra lost their partners to fire, they both mourning yes. They've always belonged together, love how open & trusting they are with one another. Glad u see how Rhaenyra had no choice but to choose someone else to make heirs with. However we can't expect her to just sleep with someone who has similar hair colour, she trusted Harwin & had a relationship with him. Helaena btw is definitely a dreamer Targaryen like Viserys wanted to be. Helaena actually foretold Aemond losing a eye to get a dragon. Allicent told Aemond in ep 6 "You will have a dragon one day" and then Helaena said in the background "He'll have to lose an eye"... I disagree about it being all the kids fault, Aemond started it and hit Baela, Rhaenyra's boys only defended the girls and then got threathened death like Harwin, so of course Jace got out his knife to defend sweet baby Luke whos half Aemonds size. Luc slashed Aemonds eye out because Jace had took a blow to the head from the rock & defended his big bro and cousins very bravely id say. He didn't enjoy it and has a broken nose, poor thing doesn't deserve anymore punishment & already understands the consequences. Aemond was the only kid smirking after the whole fight. Allicents hateful words & bad parenting caused this mess, along with all that jealously & passing on all Ottos teachings to her kids. I've also believed and saw Allicents desire for Daemon back before they switched actresses. Allicent was so horrified and upset about her brother being messed up by Daemon in ep 1, yet as soon as he came up asking for her favour, she got all happy. Then after giving him her favour and she sits down before jousting begins and is all excited about it, encouraging Rhaenyra to applaud so excitedly for Daemon too, just like she was doing. Plus again in ep 4 Allicent seemed extremely jealous about the rumours of Daemon & Rhaenyra f*cking. Visery, Coryls and even Daemon dont care about who fathered Rhaenyra's boys, because they're Rhaenyra's & family regardless. The king decides whos what and yes Rhaenyra will always be his favourite, shes the reminder of his beloved queen Aemma & the only child he concieved with love not duty to be fair. Of course Rhaenyra is bringing up the vile insults, because she has to protect her boys, especially since it's only the green making a big deal out of it. Rhaenyra has been trying to make peace and extended an olive branch to Allicent last ep, only to reject her. I'm actually very shocked u believed that Rhaenyra would be capable of cold blooded murder lol, especially to Laenor who she loves and has grown up with. I knew it was a plan to set him free as soon as Daemon mentioned places across the narrow sea, where it doesn't matter what a mans name is. Plus if you keep listening to Daemrya's conversation, it's clear they're only faking his death "we shall know the truth of it"... I was hoping you would realise it was all fake before it show bald Laenor. Rhaenyra really has set Laenor free, she knew how unhappy he would be staying here, as her husband and stuck with his duties, he was desperate to be back at sea & free to be with his love.

Kayla

It does not matter that they're bastards. Literally the only people making a big deal about it is The Greens because they want Aegon on the throne. The King's word is law and he claims them as legitimate so therefore they are. Corlys and Laenor also claim them as legitimate which is why Corlys has named Lucerys heir to driftmark. Idk why everyone acts so surprised that Rhaenyra fights so hard for her boys or why Viserys does as well. If he doesn't then that means they die and he doesn't want that so of course he's also going to fight for them and his daughter.

Lucas

So it's one of those times where Black supporters will disagree...I am not on team Green by any stretch but I make a big deal of it...Because legally that is not how succession works. Wether you are a man or a woman, a child born from a relashionip extra marital is a bastard post blank-same rules for a man or a woman- this is not 2023 where you simply get to recognize the child as yours...For a child to be your heir legally he has to be born of your marital union....Laenor can recognize them etc it makes no difference...Robert Baratheon could have 'recognized' Gendry or even Cat could have 'recognized' Jon...Even if these people did! the kids would not inherit anything as bastards--Ned 'recognized' jon as his son but that makes him 'the bastard so of Ned Stark', not his heir....Recognizing a child means nothing for succession purposes either he is a true born heir or a bastard....The Kings word is law and he could have FORMALLY legitimized them in official capacity as King (even if practically it would still raise issues of succession) but he never did because Rhaenyra always denied the facts they were bastards. To be legitimized the King dosen't just say 'You are legitimate' at any random time and way, you get acknowledged as a bastard child of X person and then he signs an official sealed document declaring you are NO LONGER a Bastard and now are legitimate(Eg. Ramsey Snow to Bolton got an official seal)........ I always admitted that was an option for Rhae, but that ship sailed when she affirmed they are true born which we know is a lie.....Now let's be clear this does nothing to take away Rhaenyra's rights to the Throne, she just doesn't have any legal heirs as of now, and Aegon II is 2nd in line for the Throne rn right behind her...Until she get's a kid through marriage that is-Again I AM TEAM BLACK all the way-BUT The point being for succession same rules apply for males and females in their world, Rhaenyra doesn't get a pass for being a woman simply because Leanor or others adopt or ignore that illegitimacy of her kids doesn't make them heirs to the throne...I fully get that Rhaenyra would defend her kids and good on her, like they are her sons regardless of legal status- man had bastards all the time, they just don't try to put them on the throne, these are two different things

Vishnu Vatheriparambil Mohandas

You are right about Helaena. She isn't saying random stuffs. Remember in the last episode when Aemond was brought to Alicent from dragonpit? Alicent told Aemond "you will have a dragon one day" and Helaena said "he will have to close an eye". And so he did.

Jasmine Reigns

This episode was fantastic , everyone killed their scenes but I love everything about the family quarrel notice what makes Rhaenyra get up when Alicent is approaching her with the knife, the horrified faces of her children, who can see Alicent approaching WITH A KNIFE over their mother’s shoulder. Rhaenyra doesn’t rise to fight, she rises to defend her terrified babies. Emma & Olivia was spectacular in their scene. I also loved the scene with the children together , the quick bond between Rhaenyra's children and Leana/Daemons kids was nice to see and how the boys quickly defended the girls against Aemond. The kid actors were amazing too, all of them portrayed great skills in their roles. Can't wait for the next episode reaction!

Starkgaryen

That’s the same dagger ayra uses to kill the night king …

Dasypodidae

Do you already know what your going to do after HotD? I hope it will be another high quality drama. OTH, Angels, and the Originals are more teen drama's which can be nice but I hope at least two slots will stay a high quality drama because you are very observant and intelligent and it would be a waste of talent if you would mainly do teen drama's.

miah.sun

And she's about to finish OTH soon too, so does that mean another slot will open? What about The Walking Dead?

Alyssa Dyson

I love how you pick up on everything 💜 most reactors didnt catch that Laenors uncle was throwing shade and were confused why Daemon laughed.

Alyssa Dyson

Also loved how you picked up on Aemond telling Vhagar to "serve." From the qupte " All men must serve." .... he was pretty much saying "be calm vhagar. serve me."

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2023-07-12 11:19:48 I think it’s pretty clear from Alicent’s conversation with Larys last episode, that she would have really pushed for the reinstatement of her father as Hand, while still being horrified at his actions to kill his father and brother. This is another great episode with so much tension at the very beginning. I’m pretty sure that Daemon’s little giggle at the funeral was because he thought it was absurd that Corlys’ brother was being so obvious with the accusations he was throwing at Rhaenyra and her children. Of course, you would have had to have known High Valyrian to have understood him. But I expect most of the people there would have done so. Aemond claiming Vhagar was fantastic. I enjoy how most people on their first watch of this episode initially think he is spying on Daemon and Rhaenyra. Having read Fire & Blood I knew that he claimed Vhagar at Laena’s funeral and subsequently lost an eye fighting with his cousins. I agree that the scene with the two families was intense and beautifully acted. I also agree with your observation that it is because of Aemma that Viserys favors Rhaenyra so much. They also did a great job with that final twist. That is a change from the book, where Laenor was believed to have been killed. But there is no clear understanding of who was behind his death. I like to think that this is what actually happened. And the history books report him as dead because that is what they believed. But yes, it is incredibly sad for Rhaenys and Corlys.
2023-07-12 01:05:01 I think it’s pretty clear from Alicent’s conversation with Larys last episode, that she would have really pushed for the reinstatement of her father as Hand, while still being horrified at his actions to kill his father and brother. This is another great episode with so much tension at the very beginning. I’m pretty sure that Daemon’s little giggle at the funeral was because he thought it was absurd that Corlys’ brother was being so obvious with the accusations he was throwing at Rhaenyra and her children. Of course, you would have had to have known High Valyrian to have understood him. But I expect most of the people there would have done so. Aemond claiming Vhagar was fantastic. I enjoy how most people on their first watch of this episode initially think he is spying on Daemon and Rhaenyra. Having read Fire & Blood I knew that he claimed Vhagar at Laena’s funeral and subsequently lost an eye fighting with his cousins. I agree that the scene with the two families was intense and beautifully acted. I also agree with your observation that it is because of Aemma that Viserys favors Rhaenyra so much. They also did a great job with that final twist. That is a change from the book, where Laenor was believed to have been killed. But there is no clear understanding of who was behind his death. I like to think that this is what actually happened. And the history books report him as dead because that is what they believed. But yes, it is incredibly sad for Rhaenys and Corlys.

I think it’s pretty clear from Alicent’s conversation with Larys last episode, that she would have really pushed for the reinstatement of her father as Hand, while still being horrified at his actions to kill his father and brother. This is another great episode with so much tension at the very beginning. I’m pretty sure that Daemon’s little giggle at the funeral was because he thought it was absurd that Corlys’ brother was being so obvious with the accusations he was throwing at Rhaenyra and her children. Of course, you would have had to have known High Valyrian to have understood him. But I expect most of the people there would have done so. Aemond claiming Vhagar was fantastic. I enjoy how most people on their first watch of this episode initially think he is spying on Daemon and Rhaenyra. Having read Fire & Blood I knew that he claimed Vhagar at Laena’s funeral and subsequently lost an eye fighting with his cousins. I agree that the scene with the two families was intense and beautifully acted. I also agree with your observation that it is because of Aemma that Viserys favors Rhaenyra so much. They also did a great job with that final twist. That is a change from the book, where Laenor was believed to have been killed. But there is no clear understanding of who was behind his death. I like to think that this is what actually happened. And the history books report him as dead because that is what they believed. But yes, it is incredibly sad for Rhaenys and Corlys.