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Vincent and the Doctor, Gallifrey Gals Get Wibbly Wobbly! S5ep10 (Patreon)

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2020-06-25 17:00:03
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Vincent Van Gogh means a lot to the Gals! and this episode of Who has Paula already on the brink of tears! Get your tissues ready and buckle down for another emotionally packed episode of Gallifrey Gals Get Wibbly Wobbly! 


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PAULA DEMING

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KATRINA ALYSHA

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Intro Song by: Pixel Pig by Di Young https://youtu.be/TiC7_167hQ0

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o

With Last week and this week it is both a beautiful and sad thing. I am about to witness heartbreak of two wonderful human beings. There is a slight tinge of guilt on my part.

o
>>39236264

and then Paula shares her feelings and how hurt she is before it even starts, mre guilt....more guilt........Geronimo!!!!!!!!

o

I am old as a child we went to the Louvre on a school trip. When I walked into his exhibit, I lost it. I could not explain why, I just lost it. Van Gogh is also my favorite artist of all time and this episode hit on all levels for me. It was in 1980 0r 1981 before the Masse place shown here had been completed

o

18:02 I need to know were to send Paula a gift basket......

Jonny Moonsliver

IT's my brithday, and this is a great present :) This is my favorite episode of the season. I cry everytime. I struggle with depression and anxiety, and have had suicidal thoughts off and on since I was 12. And even though his life ended sadly, Vincent Van Gogh is really inspirational for me- because he had no idea what an impact he had on us. Everyone is important. Everyone matters. We all touch each others lives in a really special way even if we never get the gift of seeing that. And this episode does that justice I feel.

Firefly24601

The first time I saw this episode I thought it was amazing. So I watched it several times over the years, but when I finally realized that the Krafayis is basically a metaphor for mental illness (depression in this case), it became one of my favorite episodes. <3

John

How upset and ready to quit the last episode had Paula makes me worried about her reaction to some future major events. (One of my favorite comments from another reaction to this episode:) The "monster" in this episode is a metaphor for depression (possibly many mental illnesses.) Something directly invisible to others, but you can see it in the behavior of the person experiencing it, as well as the effects that person experiencing their "monster" has on the people and environment around them. And also people dismiss you as being a lunatic. And is Paula wearing jingle bells?

Firefly24601

Of course something good is coming down the pike. This is Dr Who, not Torchwood! ;)

Anonymous

A great episode the gals made at it greater, a change of pace next week when we can all look forward to fun and laughs

Lloyd B

I've been eagerly waiting for weeks for you to get to this episode - easily one of the best of the season in terms of its emotional power and maturity. It brings many a Whovian to tears with every viewing, myself included. What starts as a rather silly story about an invisible giant chicken wreaking havoc, quickly morphs into a heart wrenching tale about mental illness, loss and grief, tossed in with a life affirming sequence showing the troubled Vincent just how loved and valued he and his work really are.. Of course, the invisible monster in the first half is in fact a metaphor for Vincent's depression - an invisible demon that only he can see, and ultimately only he can battle and defeat. And the story as a whole, coming immediately after Rory's death acts as a sort of surrogate grieving process for that loss. Vincent, with his empathy and artist's insight, can see that Amy is grieving, even if she doesn't realise it. And Amy's profound sadness when she finds Vincent still committed suicide in a sense helps her grieve for the loss she can't remember. I like that the Doctor takes the opportunity to counsel and comfort Amy, seemingly over Vincent, but as much for the death of Rory, which he can't do directly because she doesn't remember. His lines about life being a pile of good things and bad things is, I feel, one of the most profound and comforting speeches in Doctor Who. This is a beautiful episode that tackles the complex and sensitive themes of mental illness, depression, suicide and grief with great care and nuance. DW can be both silly and profound at the same time. Thanks for sharing, and be good to yourselves.

Scribbles

One of the best things Moffat ever did was invite Richard Curtis to write an episode for the show. This was such a good story, and Curtis handles mental illness with a care and dignity that I'm not sure many of the other Who writers could manage, especially not Moffat. He'd be too tempted to turn it into a joke.

Bruce Bromley

This episode had me with a lump in my throat, shedding a tear or two. I did like the end when they brought Vincent to the present to show him his work wasn't for naught. Happy to have watched it with you two.

Anonymous

Poor Paula. I knew what she was in for with this episode. And to watch it immediately after the last one even while knowing who it's about... You're a trooper, Ms. Deming. Such strong moments in this episode. The references to Amy losing Rory were a nice if very sad touch. On top of that, you had that wonderful scene with the Doctor, Amy, and Vincent looking up at the stars. And the scene where Vincent sees that his work was appreciated after all was just magical. And I loved the Doctor's words of wisdom to Amy at the end about good things and bad things. This episode has an overall rating of 9.3 out of 10 on IMDb, which places it in very good company. The Girl in the Fireplace and Doomsday from season 2 also have an overall rating of 9.3.

John
>>39238621

Yeah, if you want constantly depressing stories, watch Torchwood.

G0d_Ginrai

With the episodes of both Doctor Who and Star Trek this week and last week, I feel this current period of time should henceforth be known as ‘Gallifrey Gals Get Weepy... and so do a lot of other people.’

o

Now, I have to get you both a basket

Anonymous

I also wanted to say that I understand Katrina's struggles with depression, especially during this shelter in place stuff. This pandemic has us isolated from one another, and that's never a good thing for someone who is already prone to depression. I've had a hard time keeping my own spirits up while I've been away from church and work. The first few weeks felt kind of like a mandatory vacation from work; but as weeks have dragged on into months, it's gotten to be a hard thing to deal with for someone like me who lives alone. We just have to do the best we can until things get back to some semblance of normality. Read some books, play some video games, talk to people on the phone, and maybe take a free online course to learn something new. One of the most fascinating things I came across was a pair of free courses on Coursera from the same instructor called 'Learning How to Learn' and 'Mindshift'. Not only were they fascinating, but they opened my eyes to possibilities for myself that I hadn't considered. I highly recommend them ('Learning How to Learn' first and then 'Mindshift'). Learning How to Learn: https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn Mindshift: https://www.coursera.org/learn/mindshift

Travis Starnes

That last scene with Bill Nighy always crushes me.

Anonymous

Well...glad there isnt any tear drinkers in the comments!

Anonymous

I'm in the tiny minority that doesn't revere the episode. The emotion at the end seems forced to me rather than built up and natural.

Amy Chlebus

I absolutely love this episode, and I absolutely love Van Gogh's art. I was smiling from ear to ear looking at it. I also appreciated how they handled the subject of depression. I have dealt with severe depression and PTSD since I was very young, so this episode holds a very very special place in my heart.

Anonymous

❤️❤️❤️: Kat The scene with Vincent in the museum is probably my favorite scene in all of Doctor Who. Beautiful and heartbreaking at the same time. I’m so glad this dropped on my birthday. What a perfect gift. The last 12 months, even pre covid, has been the worst of my life, which I know Paula knows some of it. I’ve suffered since I was 8 with depression and thoughts of suicide. Back in February, when things got even worse and I was at the lowest point of this period, and in reality... my life, I was rewatching the Matt Smith Era. I remember watching the bed scene and thinking nothing has ever felt more relatable or true. It’s so hard in those moments to even see the smallest particle of positive. To remember the good at all. But like the a doctor said, the bad can’t ultimately taint the good. We all have to hold on to that glimmer of hope and remember we are not alone. That moment. That glimpse of Vincent, a man so full of despair getting to see the impact his life and work had is such a perfect encouragement and brilliant way to remind people they matter. I know that I have had so many moments, especially this last year, where I think “If I’m gone, it just won’t matter. No one’s life will be impacted. And it it is, only for the better.” After watching him in the bed and thinking “he’s absolutely right. There’s not point,” to then be reminded that your life, even if you can’t see it, means something. It’s an episode that probably helped me not go darker and to follow his path. In that moment in February, probably even saved me from making that final choice. That juxtaposition is just so beautifully and masterfully done, and I’m so glad they were willing to tackle this subject.

Bruce Bromley
>>39246113

I don't see it as that forced, but I think it would have been better without the song at the end. That did seem a bit minipulative.

Pam Nail

I love this one so much. I love the set design that immediately evokes so many of VG's paintings. I love the subtle nods to Amy losing Rory. I love that they make a distinction (which no one would have in VG's time) between "madness" (whatever that means) and depression. I ADORE the "starry night" sequence and how Vincent is able to show the Doctor and Amy how he sees the world. I love that Vincent gets that one opportunity to hear how much his work is going to mean to people in the future. As sad and tragic as it is, I love that he isn't magically cured and that they didn't prevent him from taking his own life, presumably exactly as and when he did originally. And I love that implication that, even if the Doctor and Amy didn't prevent his suicide, it's strongly implied that his most productive period was made possible because of them. This episode is also a stunning example of how beautiful the show is in HD. I can almost *smell* that wheat field.

Doug C
>>39238362

Thank you for writing my comment before I could.

Opti_Frog
>>39246113

I'm kind of the same. I only watch this episode with reactors. I prefer escapism and this hits a bit to close to home for me. But the end bit is what i like best, even though i question whether doing that with/to someone suffering from depression would be advisable.

John

I hope this episode has redeemed the show a bit for Paula. It had some sad moments, but also beautiful ones as well.

John
>>39252942

The real tragedy would be if showing him the future and how much acclaim he would only have after his death made his depression worse and was part of why he killed himself. Like in the Fires of Pompeii, the Doctor was part of events and in some way caused them to happen as they did.

Steven morgan
>>39239726

HE means don’t let this be about your personal dislike for a writer. People have different likes and loves this isn’t a discussion group we’ve paid to watch a reaction. Get enough of that stuff in dr who groups. But hey your entitled to your opinion and we should all agree to disagree, I personally am a massive Moffat fan that’s why I paid to watch these reactions. Hope you can respect that, thank you and all the best to you

Steven morgan

SO The last time I watched this episode was ten years ago and at the time ive got to be honest,I liked the episode but I kind of didn’t feel that strongly about it. I thought it was well written and I loved the bit at the end, I also thought it was sad and well acted. And I knew it was popular but I kind of thought that yes it was very good but the monster was a bit silly and I felt there were sadder episodes, however....... i have been suffering with depression for most of my life off and on and I guess spent most of it in denial, in the last five years I’ve had severe depression, where I was living in a house filled with rubbish not wanting to love and slowly eating myself to death. I have had help and although lockdown is getting to me I am persevering and feel better I watched this episode with my usual sadistic glee. But bang it hit me big. I understood this episode a lot more now. Including the monster. I was in tears at the end. This was a wonderful cathartic episode to watch and goes side by side with the buffys the body as my two favourite television episodes of all time, thank you for actually taking me on the journey this time girls. Thos has meant a lot to me....

Brendon Waldron

That scene where Vincent is sad because people he didn't even want hanging around in the first place tell him they are going to be gone, damn, I felt that...

Time Lord
>>39237790

Thank you so much for sharing and being vulnerable with us. And also, Happy Birthday! 💕 - Kat

Time Lord
>>39238362

It really is written so beautifully and a well understood perspective it seems. -Kat

Time Lord
>>39251748

Your life means something. Don't ever forget that. Thank you for sharing and being vulnerable with us. It does help me feel less alone in my vulnerabilities. I was a little nervous for this episode to drop. Scared to put myself out there like that. But if it means helping shed some light on something like this which then could mean helping someone else.. always worth it. And in the end I'm also reminded I'm not alone and my life is important. I'm glad you're here with us 💕 - Kat

Time Lord
>>39258339

Trust me, it really means a lot to us as well. I'm happy you're here with us 💕 -Kat

John
>>39251748

I just want to say that I love that you have created a space here where people can let themselves be vulnerable and know that it's safe to do so. This is what it's about. These little connections, even if it's just online, that let us know that yes, someone else has felt the pain I've felt and maybe, just maybe they can understand, if just a little. For anyone in a dark place right now, I can't say or do anything to make it right, but I can sit with you in the dark.

John

All he wanted was for someone, anyone to like his work and make him feel like his life had some meaning. It's the story of all of us.

Anonymous

I love the fan theory that Bill Nighy's Doctor Black is some future incarnation of The Doctor.