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Please tell me your opinion about "Japanese" patron sites (Patreon)

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2018-09-17 15:19:20
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Please tell me your opinion about "Japanese" patron sites

  • Enty 28
  • Fantia 13
  • FANBOX 27
  • All are horrible. I can wait untile some new sites arise. 15
  • 2018-09-17
  • —2018-09-24
  • 83 votes
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Hello again my Patrons!

Normally "Poll" is reward for $10+ tiers, but in this time I hope to hear all your opinions.


I'm still thinking and struggling, how can I deliver you some arts and comics, not appropirate for Patreon and other oversea sites.

For example, some of my fans may know "The Stud Hero and Three MILFs:EX".

Its translation was progressed but suspended, for the protagonist is too  small stature for most oversea sites.


In the old polls, some patrons said me that I can show you it "secretly" (via message or archive), and I felt it might be a good idea. But I stopped it after I noticed sometimes immoral patron re-posting my works somewhere. It is not secret. (And I'm very sorry that I did not tell you I decided to discard that idea. Telling about it was too gloomy...)

Also, in my humble research, Patreon tightens its restrictions about NSFW works. Most artists who drawing such short characters looks like been banned already.

So, again,  I'm thinking about deliver it through some Japan based sites.
(I remember, in the old poll, 72% voters agreed to use a new site)
And now, there are many patron sites in Japan...!
Enty, Fantia, Fanbox, Ci-en and so on. (though I'm not using Ci-en yet)


Then, I hope to hear from you...

Would you tell me which site is best for oversea readers, in your opinion?

[Enty]

https://enty.jp/rebis

[Fantia]

https://fantia.jp/Rebis

[FANBOX]

https://www.pixiv.net/fanbox/creator/28196
(*FANBOX already has some English text and pledge for testing. Though I have to agree I could not do it well yet...)


I'm happy if you can tell me about even payments or other systems of the sites, from eyes of the oversea fan. If you are an user of some site, it is greater :)


Also, I'm glad if you vote from your impressions, even if you are not interested in small stature characters.

Because, in the darkest and disastor scenario, it is possible that Patreon may ban all adults artists in the future... Oh yes, of course I know its probablity is not high. But finding a shelter before the end day may be a good tactic.

Even if I can open a new English pledge on another site, I'll try to make it simple, clean and reasonable. I just hope to deliver all my works for fans who need them :D

Comments

Anonymous

I'm already using enty, as I told you and, personally, I consider it a good choice

Mark R

I'll give entry a try

Mark R

I'll probably have to use one or the other to support

Anonymous

In my opinion you could try to us dlsite. You can have both japanese and english comic in the same site

Matthew Shiori

I voted enty but only because I like how the website looks.

Rebis
>>15565783

It may be work on the comic, but delivering individual arts and pinups is hard on DL site. It is why I'm thinking about patron sites. (Of course I can use DLsite too for the comic in the future)

Anonymous

I don't like fanbox I'm supporting some artists on there and I never get any notifications they post anything new and when they post a lot of pictures in a post it load incredibly slow. Fantina on the other hand I've no real problem with. Never used enty so don't know

Rebis
>>15565609

I'm glad to hear it again, Raiden! Though I remember there was a compliant about Enty can't accept some credit card. Should I use multiple Japanese sites? It may be work... hmm...

Rebis
>>15565750

Enty was not good for you? Thanks for information! (and probably for your voting)

Rebis
>>15565926

Thank you for your detailed opinion! It is hard to know when I focus on using as a creator. It really helps me.

Rebis
>>15565914

At least you can see what is what in English, when you visit Enty?

Luna.

I honestly wouldn't know, since I do not know any of those sites. If I had to choose, I would choose enty.

Kaiyeti

Hmmm I don't know which one would be best since I haven't used any of them. The only Concern I have is Whether or not we will actually be able to send you money through these sites. After all when patria and moved their headquarters to the UK lot of pledges couldn't go through because Some of us myself included credit card could only work in the United States unless we told the bank specifically to allow it. Either way Which ever winds all support you the matter what my god emperor of awesomeness friend. *yetihug*

Kurai1321

if enty will accept the card i dont see why not to use it too. Dont know if i will keep the patreon pledge thou if it does then

Just Me

I support one artist on Enty and one on Fantia… I haven't had any issues with either site so far and both are usable enough with slim to no Japanese skills imo. Fantia looks cleaner and a bit prettier, Enty is really cluttered imo. I'm fine with either site and I'd assume Enty is more popular. Never used Fanbox, but bought (digital) goods through booth before, so setting up a Fanbox account shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Rebis
>>15566500

Thank you! That opinion also helps me, for first impression of sites is also important.

Garthmer

Fanbox, since they're Pivix. And, it's easier to get browse your content. Though, enty is also good. I'm more familiar with Pivix though.

Anonymous

I have not heard of any of these sites but my one problem to use them is what types of credit cards do they allow and do they allow PayPal.

Anonymous

im ok with enty as long as they let you post what you want. I already follow some artists there.

FrostyFins

You can try to alter how you post your NSFW content by making R+18 pictures into a banner format, and continue with zip files to avoid these issues. I seen it work for some creators I support here. Since banners are small, they cover a lot of nudity and such, think it'll bypass some of these things your experiencing Rebis.

Rebis
>>15567935

Yes, accepting some card or not is beyond my contorl... And, don't worry, I will not try to charge you double on two sites. I plan just making a small pledge to get extra items I can't treat here.

Rebis
>>15566687

Oh yes, I remember big problems around Patreon moving. Currently those sites don't have problems for me. Credit card concern is another problem... I hope we can find good ways for it.

Rebis
>>15568067

Oh, you are really an adventurer visiting around the world! It is a good news that those sites have no big problems for you :D

Rebis
>>15568808

Oh yes, I felt it is important that there are many oversea users in the Pixiv community. Thank you for your opinion!

Rebis
>>15569639

Well, I noticed many fans concern about cretid card problems. Hmm, I hope there will be good solutions... (and I guess probably using Paypal is hard on those sites)

Rebis
>>15569661

There are some other restricitons in Japanese sites (like infamous cencorship in Japan...) but I'm doing well on those sites for Japanese fans now.

Rebis
>>15569960

Thank you for your opinion, Vector! Like I said above, I heard similar suggestions in the past post. But I feel is it not safe enough, especially if some malicious person report it to the system.

DinsFire03

I've used enty in the past. It worked fine.

Animeplayer

Wish I can provide some insight to this decision but I have no clue about them. There are ways we can go about this, I know of a few ways that it won't get on Patreons radar and I WANT THAT DOUJIN IF IT'S WHAT I THINK IT IS!!!

Freelancer

I'd make an account in ANY patron site to support you.....that being said I've never heard of any of these sites but if it come to you having to terminate this account and focus on another site then I'll (as well as probably others) will follow

Erik Miller

Never even heard of these. As for the free posting sites, yeah, real shame that people don’t abide by your policies and don’t offer you enough respect. I can see why you’d be put off on that and while I’m sad that you won’t put it up here, I respect your decision. I’ll give the other sites a look and let you know what I think. I really appreciate your honesty and hope things look better for you. Still gonna support your Patreon too ;-D

Erik Miller
>>15575464

I'm gonna wait on your final decision before making any pledges. Money is tight for me so I'd rather wait to know where I'm to spend it before I actually spend it. Also, while I said I'd go with Enty, the fact is my Japanese is nonexistent. It offers some English but not enough for me to understand what is being offered, though I am holding out hope that it will progress further. Again, until the decision is finalized, I'm holding off for now.

MassiveWeeb™

I have to say Rebis, im glad you take the time to ask your fanbase for their opinions, really show how much you care and I gotta say, thats awesome as hell. As an aside, I think either fanbox or enty are the best (I have too basic understanding of japanese to properly read fantia, though with some effort I might be able to), and im already used to FANBOX as I have an artist I support there, though their system is kinda meh. By the way, *where can I find that comic, I gotta have it lmao*

Richard Reynolds

Well, I messed around to try and find the most English-friendly page I could out of these options, ha ha. It feels like to me that FANBOX is the easiest to use since I already have a pixiv account, so that's where my vote went. Regardless of your final choice, I went ahead and backed you on FANBOX as well at the ¥250 level. Anyway, thanks for being open and honest with us! Hopefully you won't have to leave Patreon for the time being!

Shuji

Fanbox

Sousuke Drake

Paypal is usually a must for me, My bank has blocked my card multiple times when I tried to use it for a overseas payment, They stopped it for suspicious activity and I would have to call them and explain that I was the one who made the purchases 😕 It's actually happened multiple times for me which is why I try to stick to using paypal I know this is complicated situation, thank you for linking your other accounts, I'll look into them

Kenneth

I will have to agree with Sousuke. A much as possible any new site that is overseas would need a paypal option. Patreon moving just their financial operations to Great Britain has already caused me to have to contact my bank twice to confirm the legitimacy of the payments.

SleepyBystander

Yeah, if I can't use paypal i won't be able to support you >x

Mecatama

If the site supports PayPal, no sites are okay. There is no other overseas payment system as fast and easy as PayPal.

Mecatama
>>15592142

So my vote supports English and paypal ok anywhere.

Rebis
>>15572077

Thank you Animeplayer! I could know many things from comments on This polls. I hope to make many ways as possible as I can, for anyway sometimes sites are go down... depending only one site is not totally safe :D

Rebis
>>15572213

Thank you! I don' worry too much about the future of my Patreon. (Though I keep saving my each post on my HD... I'm very carefull :D

Rebis
>>15579322

Wow thank you for your opinion, and your support, Richard! I think I can find you on FANBOX :D My worst fear is not losing Patreon, but losing my fans and readers! So I hope to try being open and honest for my fans for any future :)

Rebis
>>15578700

Thank you for your kind words! And I'm glad to know you already used FANBOX (yes, honestly the site lis slightly meh even from my eyes) There are so many uncertain things about this topic, but I hope to do "try and error" to find the best future!

Taylor Wesolowsky

I've never used any of these sites, so my opinion is limited, but they all seem okay at a quick glance. I think it's a great idea to consider a backup plan, even if it's never needed, better safe than sorry. I for one would probably be willing to follow you if you decided to change bases, or consider supporting you separately somewhere else for what you feel can't be done here. Of course, if that process was easy and convenient I'd be quite happy

MassiveWeeb™
>>15578700

Thats good to know! I can't wait to see what decision you take, but I sure as hell will follow! (Psst also, wheres the image from? I want to uh, yknow, make some research)

Rebis
>>15581819

Thank you for your information and opinion! In my knowledge, sadly all sites has no Paypal support. Also I think Paypal hates adult contents, so I wonder anyway it may be hard to use such sites (especially when I show adult arts) ...

Rebis
>>15585087

In my old knowledge, Patreon does not accept Paypal for adult creators, but is it changed now?

Rebis
>>15584465

Oh yes I remember such trouble about Patreon moving. Thanks for your information... honestly I don't know credit card sircumstances of US (? or other countries)

Rebis
>>15592142

Hmm, thank you for your opinion, Mecatama! There are really many tasks and problems about this!

Rebis
>>15604626

Thank you for your opinion! Even a quick glance is important, for many people leave the site if a quick grance is so bad. Anyway I think I can deliver most of my works here, so please consider about this option if you need some types of contetns from me!

Rebis
>>15578700

If you are talking about the image I posted here, it is come from "The Stud Hero and Three MILFs:EX", I'm planning to deliver it via Japanese sites.

MassiveWeeb™
>>15578700

Oh so its a new piece! Sorry for misunderstanding, now im quite hyped up! Thought it was already existed but couldnr be posted due to regulations (which im guessing is due to oppai/regular l o l i, or something?) I do understand where youd be coming from if so, shitty patreon board cant handle 18+ content and keep cracking down on creators.

Sousuke Drake
>>15581819

so far Paypal works on Patreon for adult content the incest purge that happened earlier this year on Patreon was suspected to be because a paypal I will continue looking into other options of payment on my end

SleepyBystander
>>15585087

Yes, I'm using paypal. PayPal is the reason I don't have any of the canceled payments problems others have

HakureiDerp

The problem I have with JP 'patreon' sites is that, because they are based in Japan, censorship is generally enforced (which I absolutely loathe) If there is a site you find that doesn't have that enforcement, I'm all for it.

Rebis
>>15626916

By pitty laws in Japan, I can't post uncensored pics to almost any site (including here) as long as I'm livin in Japan. Sad.

Mecatama
>>15592142

I'm sorry if I confused you. I have never used those three sites. We have a Google Translator, so it's okay to support only Japanese.