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Hey, allies! We are currently planning to host EZX, our 4th anniversary live-stream celebration, on Saturday, March 22nd at the Hilton Anaheim. We have also been talking internally about the risks associated with the continuing spread of COVID-19 (aka Coronavirus) and want to inform you that there is a possibility the event may need to be postponed (probably to this summer) depending on how the situation escalates this month. It’s been a difficult process to weigh the pros and cons of a move like this, and we want to be as transparent with you as possible.

There’s a good chance we could get through the event without incident. We will take precautions to ensure that the equipment we use is constantly clean, and that attendees wash their hands and avoid direct contact whenever possible. One of our greatest concerns is that attending an Easy Allies anniversary event is a very expensive proposition for most of you. If we were to postpone EZX to later in the year, the loss you would incur from hotel/flight cancellations might prohibit you from attending at a later date. The event is also for you to meet and greet each other, and there are only so many opportunities per year to do that.

At the same time, the coronavirus situation grows more serious every day. California has declared it a state of emergency, and similar events are being canceled right and left. While people our age are not the ones directly at risk from the disease, we’re most concerned about those around us with weak immune systems or advanced age. As important as this event, and all of you, are to us, when we think of the possible consequences it can sometimes seem like canceling EZX is an inevitability. If that were to happen we’d still stream on Sunday, just from the office, and keep it a special, extended event. Regardless of what decision we make, if you decide to travel to Los Angeles, we don’t want to discourage you from gathering with other people in this community.

So we’d like to know what you think. We won’t be basing our decision solely on your opinions, but we’d like to factor them in and try to understand how this will affect all of you individually. How would you feel if we had to make the difficult decision to postpone EZX? Leave your comment below and we’ll update you ASAP if anything changes. We’ve never faced anything like this before, so we appreciate your patience and understanding as we figure out what to do.

Comments

Anonymous

Hope the event goes on but I understand health and safety. FWIW this is also not a particularly bad trip for me as it’s a drive from San Diego.

Anonymous

I just want to say how much I respect that you all are involving the community in this conversation. This is one of the many reasons EasyAllies stands apart from the rest!! L&R and good luck in California!!

Anonymous

My opinion matters little, as I'm not in a position to attend at this time, but I say that you folks shouldn't hesitate to postpone the event if there is any sort of risk to attendees/the general public. No one should begrudge you for making a touch, public safety minded call. That being said, I hope that when the event does take place, it goes well!

Anonymous

Was planning to go but value health and safety far more; would much rather see the event postponed.

Anonymous

I had planned my travel to go, but have decided to cancel my plans. As much fun as it’d be to see you all and the fans, I didn’t feel it’d be worth the risk of the busy airports, etc. I think postponing is the right call. Even if you have it on the planned date I feel the vibes/attendance won’t be worth it. If you reschedule and things seem to have calmed down I’d definitely look at coming out

Anonymous

I won't be attending, but I would definitely postpone. There really wouldn't be any reasonable blowback given the situation. I think everyone would under.

Anonymous

As long as you guys communicate when and why things are happening, I’m pretty sure the whole community is not worried. If it needs to be postponed, so be it and don’t worry too much about it. If the EZA community is one thing, it’s understanding!

Anonymous

Especially with your guys' international audience, I think it'd be the right thing to do to postpone. At this point in the situation's development, no one would blame you for it. Plus, we're all used to watching you guys stream anyway!

Anonymous

As much as I would love to see you in person I would rather you all be safe and continue giving us such amazing content free from any chances of sickness. Not worth the chance of getting sick. L&R

Anonymous

You have to do what is right for the community as well as yourselves. If the risk is too great, then you should postpone. Hopefully, everyone would understand. Love you guys! L&R

Anonymous

I would understand entirely if y'all decided to postpone, but I definitely wouldn't be able to come to another event. I wouldn't be able to afford it. I'm across the country on the east coast and I've already put my savings into coming over in March as my one big trip for the year. L&R <3

Anonymous

i wont personally be able to attend regardless but I'd much rather you put your health and the health of attendees as a priority over any other obligation. stay safe out there kids

Anonymous

It would be a shame to cancel EZX with all the planning that's been done, but safety and health should be the topmost priority. Regardless of how you prcoeed, I'll tune in to the event! L&R

zak wojnar

I won’t be there since I live in New York, but you should know that you have no obligation to put your safety in danger, period. If it seems unsafe, don’t do it. We’ll love and respect you, no matter what. I mean, like, unless you start doing hate speech or something, but that seems unlikely from at least 7 of the 9 allies. (Just kidding, obviously) -Zak

Anonymous

Even if you took every precaution at the event, people still need to pass through crowded areas, airports etc., it probably isn't worth the risk. I say postpone till the summer when warmer weather will *hopefully* halt the spread. If anyone is out of pocket with tickets that they can't cancel, you could maybe ask for proof and we could do a community fund-raiser on a group stream or whatever to try to reimburse anybody who can't afford to reschedule otherwise?

Anonymous

while i still plan on making the trip to see my friends, i can't say this wouldn't be a huge blow... a lot of us save up for months to be able to make this one trip and having the central reason be pulled out from under us would hurt. i definitely understand the caution though. personally i don't believe the event is on par with something like a convention, considering the much smaller attendance size. i'd trust everyone going to be extra careful and we'd all be sure to help keep things sanitary i'm sure. the decision is ultimately up to you guys, but i'd honestly rather have everyone in masks and gloves and washing their hands every 2 seconds than having the event outright cancelled...

Anonymous

I would say just postpone. It's better to be safe than sorry at the moment.

Anonymous

If you feel sickness, don’t show up. It’s a serious situation but at the same time living in fear and cancelling versus taking precautions I think would be uncalled for. Any other year, including this one, the flu is much more prevalent and deadlier, but because this virus is an unknown it creates doubt and panic. That being said, do what your heart tells you to do, I’ll love and support you guys either way.

Anonymous

I'll be honest. I'm already thinking E3 and SDCC will cancel. I would not bat an eye if you guys decided to postpone or cancel this year. You guys are the best and community is always first, so I already know you'll do what you think is best. L&R

Spunkmire

Yeah, I totally get postponing. At the end of the day, loss of money is better than contributing to the spread of this disease and putting people at risk.

Anonymous

Not attending but plan to one day. If this was the day I was going however, I would like to say I would totally understand the cancelling. I can't speak for those who will have their plans also cancelled do to this issue, but I think its clear from the above comments that most think it would be a good idea to postpone this. The risk is just getting too serious.

Anonymous

Better to be safe than sorry, and do it on a different date.

Anonymous

Jezus Christ; you guys aswel ?! It's just a freaking cold.... more people die of boredom than this virus.... it's fine.... stop spreading the fear

Anonymous

I think you should postpone it now and not even wait a month.

Matt Shay

I support this decision.

Lyn

I likely wouldn't be able to attend if postponed as my plane tickets are nonrefundable and it probably wouldn't be a great idea financially for me to buy more, even if it's later in the year. I know this situation is the same for a lot of my friends as well. If it really comes down to being a health hazard, it's entirely your all's decision. it would hurt, though

Anonymous

You guys are in a tough position, and I don't envy it at all. On one hand, if something were to happen there, for example let's say the Coronavirus did spread at the event. Then you might be feel a bit responsible about it, because you didn't cancel. And you would get a lot of bad press, imagine, Coronavirus spreads at a conference by the "Easy Allies" But then, if I had booked tickets and accomodations from the UK for this, only for it to be cancelled. I'd be pretty pissed and probably wouldn't try and go to one of these things again. I mean, sure I still have a holiday in America, but my primary reason for being there would be gone. So I don't envy you guys at all, but I will support any decision you take.

Anonymous

We in Germany are known for being overcautious and seeing problems and risks everywhere. There have been more Corona cases in Germany than in California and still hardly any events are cancelled here at the moment. The official advice is to take common sense precautions but it seems like more than that isn't justified / necessary at the moment. The risk getting the virus is far smaller than many other everyday risks everyone takes without thinking about them twice.

Anonymous

Just don't be like WB and NRS and cancel the day before the event!

Yui

I wasn't one who could go, but I feel like safety of all parties is definitely the most important thing so postponing it would be a good call if it comes down to it.

Anonymous

also to everyone who didn't plan on going to begin with, please understand it's not as simple as "better safe than sorry." most of us can only afford this one trip out of the year and this would mean wasting all of that money and not being able to attend a postponed event.

Anonymous

I would say postpone. I'm sure some will be disappointed but it's most important to be safe and responsible. It's great to see how transparently you're handling this. I wouldn't be surprised for E3 to be cancelled.. I'm sure you'll all make the best decision. L&R

Anonymous

I'm not going either way but... it's optimistic to think things would be better in the summer, you might as well say you're cancelling. I do think the situation is over blown, way more people are at risk of getting a common flu etc etc etc but hey do what you think is best

Anonymous

I am planning on attending the event and I would really hope that you guys don’t postpone. I’ve already spent a lot of money on travel, some of which I cannot refund and I don’t know if I’d be able to afford a second trip this year. If you cancel EZX proper I’d at least hope that you guys keep the Disney day or hold a smaller meet up for those of us who still plan on going to California. I can’t really justify not going after my money’s already been spent. On a more personal note to say I’d be disappointed would be an understatement. I’ve been working extra shifts to afford this trip and it would be really tough for it to be all for naught.

Anonymous

I would say make sure you know the numbers and make the best/most wise decision you can. From what I have seen of official numbers there have been 400 cases in the USA and 20 deaths so it seems the panic is a exaggeration to me however I am not an expert at the same time so just do the best with the information you can get

Anonymous

tbf, these meetups run pretty small compared to actual big conventions, and 99% of attendees generally fly in from other places in the US/canada rather than higher-risk areas (though i do feel like ezx As An Event in its current state has definite risks, what with all those shared controllers and everyone being in one enclosed room). it’s also hard to judge because it isn’t a ticketed event and at present you don’t know how many people will show up. i’d be able to make it to a postponed event, but the majority of my friends wouldnt (and a lot of people are planning to go to LA that week regardless of whether you hold official events because of unrefundable flights/accomodations, including me). maybe you could go forward with some events (outside smaller-scale meetups, disney) but not EZX Proper?

Anonymous

I can’t go so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I think you’re in the right to consider postponement. You’re not going anywhere, this won’t be your last year to do it, and if you promote or host online meetups between fans then there can still be that community interaction. I just realized everything’s gonna have to move after SXSW in Texas got cancelled, so you won’t be the first or last, just do what you need to keep people safe.

XWF Outlaw

As someone who has gone to all of the Yearly meet ups and is still planning to attend this year events as well, I would be extremely disappointed if this years event were to be canceled with 12 days to go. Tbh, my heart sank when I saw this message. I know this will sound selfish and inconsiderate to some, I have made every pilgrimage to LA because it is the one time of the year I am able to meet with the only friends I have. The money and time already put in to take these dates off would be wasted and I would not have enough to attend at whatever date in the summer it is postponed to. This Community is well informed and very knowledgeable about how to prevent the spread of germs and sicknesses and washing hands. If you feel sick, dont go. If you are going, be sure to come prepared. Kther Allies who experienced the EZ virus last year will be more than prepared to bring to the events with tissues, hand sanitizer, masks, ect to help. I am in good health atm, (knock on wood) and will oblige everyone attending to take precautions (myself included) as the EZ Allies will be doing the same. I hope you do not cancel and will be joyous to meet anyone attending as well. L&R.

Anonymous

The coronavirus situation will very likely only worsen dramatically in the coming months. While many media and social outlets have been focusing on the "low" 3.4% mortality rate, they've largely neglected to point out that 15-20% of infected people have been requiring hospitalization, and roughly 5% intensive care. The virus is no joke; besides being more infectious and lethal than the flu, it's also suspected that it can invade the central nervous system, causing neurological damage related to the severe respiratory failures that the most heavily afflicted patients have experienced (China recently reported that even people who recover can end up with permanent lung scarring and immunological damage). Worse yet, early indicators are showing a 14% rate of relapse, as the virus can linger in a patient's system even after recovery. Many of the epidemiologists and medical groups I follow have predicted that the US healthcare industry will likely be overwhelmed in the coming months; there aren't enough hospital beds and ventilators in the country to handle the estimated patients that will need them (with medical organizations likely to experience an upwards 10x higher caseload than the flu). Worse yet, there isn't enough stock of protective equipment and respirator masks to shield our healthcare workers, which will likely exacerbate the epidemic once they start getting sick as well. Unless we make every effort to slow the spread of the virus early on, it's likely that many recoverable patients will wind up dying simply because there isn't enough capacity to treat everyone. So tldr; yes, I strongly believe you should cancel this event. This may not be a humanity-ending epidemic, but many signs point to it turning everyday life upside down, possibly for the next year until vaccines and anti-virals are made available to the public.

Anonymous

I think you guys need to remember last year when you all got sick. I understand that the fan base and everyone in the community would t be heavily effected even if exposed but Brandon also has a new baby to take care of. If Brandon becomes ill again, think about what that would mean. Or maybe he wouldn’t even attend to prevent just that. Some airlines will allow you to move your tickets as long as you know the dates you need to shift the tickets to. And I would hope that these hotels and airlines would be more flexible based on whats going on. I also don't want to be at an event where the people around me are so determined to make something like this work that they could potentially be ill because it's do or die for them. this virus has a long incubation period. someone could easily fly over not knowing they were sick and then they are spreading it to others. A handful of these comments are pushing for you all to go through with it. I will absolutely be there if you do go through with the event. But if you decide to cancel I completely understand and I think the sooner you do it the better. Give the community time to cancel their reservations and find out if they are able to move plane tickets or cancel them or if they want to go ahead with their travel plans even without the Allies. TL;DR: do what you think you need to do to keep yourself and others safe. It’s a tough situation to be in. But I think it’s better for you to make a decision quickly so that others can figure out what they need to do to feel safe. Including yourself. If the end of the month rolls around and things are worse, people will be just as upset not seeing all the Allies as they would be if you had just canceled it.

Mellow Felloh

Not planning on going but either way I'd say at the very least postpone if things escalate. Everyone's health should took priority not only for the ones attending but the ones surrounding them with weaker immune systems.

Anonymous

If you go threw with it, you should also have a 24 day lockin at the studio where it starts off normal, but then everyone just starts doing small coughs, and slowly Kyle starts bleeding from his ears, and everything just spirals out of control, ben is grabbing all the toilet paper from the washroom and hording it for himself. Brad goes on an acid trip with don. I duno just spitballing here.

Anonymous

oh and everyone must keep 6 feet from each other at all times.

Alexander Zyryanov

I think those who planned to attend will not support cancellation, and those who didn't will support it. So I think you should ignore our biased opinions and make decision yourself.

Mylène Laperle Vanasse

I just want all my friends to be safe and sound. Let's not forget we all come from different places and none of us want to be exposed to it and bring it back home.

Anonymous

also I know how difficult this has gotta be for you guys. it’s almost an impossible choice, and it’s gonna hit a lot of community members hard economically. speaking as someone who has been to almost every single EZA meetup/event, with dozens of friends planning to attend this year, if you want to talk further y’all know how to reach me

Xeno

This would have been the first event I could attend as it fit perfectly in my schedule. Would also be the first time I go to Disneyland (if possible), so I obviously have some bias when it comes to this decision. I will respect any decision you make, but will probably never go to another event like this if cancelled since I will have wasted the money I spent on tickets and hotel reservations.

Anonymous

Whatever the decision is, it would be better to make it sooner rather than later.

Xeno

to give a little bit of detail, I will have wasted ~$600 on plane, disneyland, and hotel reservations with no chance of refunds

Anonymous

You guys should just postpone it then. People need to cancel their trip plans ASAP. Being indecisive 2 weeks before the event's planned date is not a good move. People will be more upset if they have burned their time-off from work or lost their expenses. Y'all should make a follow up post with your decision like... today.

Anonymous

I think it's the responsible thing to do to postpone or cancel it.

Tony

I think canceling it would be the best bet right now. It would be awful if Brandon’s new child is exposed to this through him and this event.

Anonymous

A few more important things to note: * The novel coronavirus is highly infectious during its incubation period. People who appear healthy can actually be hotzones of contagion. * It's an airborne virus; droplets from an infected person's breath can linger in the air for hours, regardless of whether they cough or sneeze. No amount of wiping and disinfecting surfaces will prevent the virus from spreading if an infected person is simply in the presence of large groups of people (e.g. the EZX you're planning on holding).

DjDeathCool

Count me in the postpone tribe.

Anonymous

Whatever decision you make please make it quickly.

Anonymous

I'm from Israel, (according to reports there are 25 confirmed patients here .) Still there is a ban on large gatherings, and holiday festivities are cancelled country wide as well. Considering that that all patients have been traveling from other countries I would advise to not take the chance that all of your attending audience is local or have not been traveling. **Also, not every carrier knows that he/she/it is carrying the virus. *** simptoms may appear later. Think of your safety first. Alot can happen in a month and no place is perfectly safe.

Anonymous

Obviously my motivations are a little selfish, but I'd rather the event still go on. I'm in the same boat as others: there's no way I can get a refund on my flight or hotels this close to the event, and I really had to save up to even pay for them. And obviously you have your own priorities and concerns. So, I dunno. I'm getting depressed just thinking of a postponement or cancellation.

Anonymous

Personally, I'd be pretty disappointed if it were to be postponed or canceled outright, but no one saw this outbreak coming and spreading so rapidly. I can't cancel my flight to Cali unless they decide to close Denver and/or LA airports and it would be devastating for me to miss my first ever EAZY A event, but it is what it is. Honestly, safety and extreme precautions are a must until we can stave off this outbreak. Do what ya gotta do, Allies.

Anonymous

The virus is contagious during the incubation phase, which means otherwise healthy people can unknowingly spread it. Also, the difference between the novel coronavirus and the flu is that the flu is an already globally widespread systemic virus. The novel coronavirus is emergent, only just recently starting to spread worldwide. Estimates put it at infecting upwards of 70% of the world's population; and without any vaccines or anti-viral medications to manage it, it's expected that the number of deaths from covid-19 will largely eclipse the flu in the coming months.

Input One

I'm pretty much locked in - my flights and stays are non-refundable. Many like myself were pretty much settled as this being the ONE thing we do this year; the waste of money would be pretty devastating. Considering that EZX isn't really inherently an international event and is still relatively small, I think it'd be okay. Take health precautions for sure, but personally I'm not worried about it (as someone travelling TO a place with COVID-19 from somewhere WITHOUT it).

Input One

Either way, I'm pretty much locked into coming to LA; so even if EZX is postponed, perhaps fellow Allies like myself could arrange an informal meetup? It's a compromise I'm not entirely motivated to make, but it'll have to do if required. I'm coming to LA one way or another that weekend.

Anonymous

Whatever you decide it's best to decide it as soon as possible.

Anonymous

Probably not a bad idea. The nature of these kinds of events, things can change really fast. In one week we have gone from 0 reports in the country to almost every state reporting cases. I think were just getting started with this thing. Probably going to see a low turn out no matter what.

Anonymous

Actually, current estimates are that upwards of 70% of the world's population is going to wind up being infected with the virus, in part because of a lack of vaccines, but also because it's highly infectious, and most countries don't have the containment mobility of a government like China. The mortality rate may seem low (3.4% atm, which is several orders higher than the 0.1% of the flu), but the hospitalization rate has been anywhere between 15-20%, with many patients requiring oxygenation and, for more critical intensive care patients, artificial/mechanical respiration. China also recently reported that the virus is capable of permanent immunological and respiratory damage even for people who recover; so while the risk may appear low at the moment, the virus has only just started spreading, and the situation will likely worsen dramatically in the coming weeks/months.

Anonymous

Whatever the decision on the March EZX is please make it soon.

Danni-H4

I cannot say "yay" or "nay" for the Meet & Greet cancellation because I do not participate in the event, however, I would like to share this opinion. The situation with the virus has caused a great deal of impact in various industries: multimedia, retail, etc. But having an event during a "panic" or "outbreak" or a great sense of "worry", I'd recommend canceling it all together. I do feel for those that are anticipating this event... But I value safety and care more than entertainment. Not everyone will favor this perspective but I believe a close and clear communication will help everyone understand the situation.

Anonymous

Wheather EZX is postponed or not i think the sooner the decision the better. I know that airbnb is having cancellations with full refund due to virus. Idk if hotels and other businesses are doing something like this as well. But the sooner we know the quicker we can all make adjustments to cancellations and traveling schedule.

Anonymous

Cancel it, please.

The Kid

Whichever way you end of going, making a decision soon is important.

Anonymous

While the financial impact of cancelling EZX understandably weighs heavily on the consciences of the EZA members, given the circumstances and the highly infectious nature of the coronavirus, I would be much more concerned about the attendees or their related family members that could be hospitalized or even killed if the virus spreads as a result of the event. Given that it's an airborne virus that's highly contagious during incubation and in asymptomatic patients, no amount of preventative measures will make a gathering of people like that safe for everyone involved. China literally shut down an entire city with a population larger than New York because of this virus; that's not a precaution, that's a high-alert warning signal. I second the idea of canceling the event.

Yiorgos

As much as it will stink, safety is of utmost importance and the wisest decision would be to cancel the event. For those that bought plane tickets and made hotel arrangements, yes it sucks but money isn't of importance here...safety is.

Yiorgos

It would be wise to cancel, this is an unprecedented situation and too much of a risk especially being in California. I was planning to attend but luckily I didn't buy a plane ticket yet fearing it would get worse. Stay safe Allies, unfortunately cancelling the Meet Up is the safest and wisest course of action

Anonymous

I've had my flights and accommodation booked in for the past couple of months. I'm flying all the way from Australia by myself. I've been a patreon member since day 1 and following you guys since 2006. I was immensely looking forward to meeting the Allies as you have been such big influences. I cant lie, I would be incredibly disappointed if it got cancelled. In saying all that, if you were to cancel I would not complain. This decision is bigger than me. I personally am not concerned about the virus but I can't tell others not to be. The decision rests with you and what you believe is the right thing to do. Unless my flights are outright cancelled I'll still be flying into the States for the first time, I love solo exploring a country and well, if you knew my life story this is just a no-brainer. Also I hope Disneyland is still on the cards :) Love and Respect, Doug.

Anonymous

It's a tough decision to make, but my feeling is better to be safe then sorry

Anonymous

I think it would be incredibly shitty for the people going to the event with unrefundable purchases to postpone the event. If some one feels that they are at risk and don’t want to be in contact with people at the airport etc. then they don’t have to go. Let people make the decision for themselves whether they feel safe traveling and attending the event, don’t make the decision for them.

Anonymous

Yeah I'm not attending so maybe my opinion doesn't matter but seeing as people can't get travel expenses refunded I think it would be better to hold an event in some capacity.

Anonymous

I live in France, so I’m not concerned. But I can only testify how this grew in proportions out of control in only a couple weeks there. By March 22 the situation will be worse but if it didn’t explode I think a meeting like this is still fine. But that can change very quick, that’s the thing.

Anonymous

I live in Japan which had it's fair share of cases and I would recommend postponing or cancelling. I understand that's easy for me to say as I'm not attending but it isn't so much about the Allies and those attending as much as it is the risk you would be exposing all the other people in your life to. These kind of events are rare and unfortunate but potentially deadly and out of any individual's control. Also, for those with flights and hotels booked it may be possible to get refunds if the situation escalates (my girlfriend had flights to Korea booked and had them refunded due to the airline cancelling them because of the virus). Not much in the way of consolation but yeah that's my two cents.

Anonymous

My suggestion would be to postpone it. As you mentioned most of us are not the ones at risk, but the real danger of this virus is that you may carry it for up to 2 days without showing symptoms (or so I have read). This makes it easier to transfer to others without even knowing it.

Anonymous

A GOOD TIP FOR LIMITING EXPOSURE: For the event, establish non-contact greetings. Things like bowing, a simple wave, shadow handshakes, or even doing the chicken dance. I just got back from a very large scale conference in Seattle and they did this. It was a fun way to say hello and limit exposure.

Tristan Gray

Luckily this specific virus hits infants and children either not at all or very mildly based on current info, minor respiratory infections or no symptoms at all in infected infants so far.

Anonymous

Don't take the risk and just cancel the damn event. Anyone who has to cancel their flight/hotel as a result should be reasonable and understanding.

Anonymous

What about making the decision in consideration of their own health?

Collin Goodspeed

Postponing kinda sucks but I think it’s maybe the right call. This is a pretty wild unprecedented scenario that really is out of our hands, I mean even SXSW cancelled!

Anonymous

Oh cool too know I’m not the only day one Australian patreon that was thinking about makeing the trip. I didn’t book mine yet as I was weighing the options and mainly not haveing enough money too all I would want but a small part of the virus made me decide me too attempt it next year

Anonymous

Postpone, not worth the risk.

Anonymous

While I do think the panic for covid is excessive as it’s similar too when there is strong strains of the flu. The rapid spread proves that sadly it can just take one person that dosn’t do the right thing for spread far. I say let the event happen but let it be guilt free for allies too not attend and make sure too drill into all attendees that if you feel even a bit sick don’t take the risk and isolate

Professor Metal Gear

One the one hand, it would suck for those who already made plans to visit to have to potentially cancel and go through that hassle. On the other hand, it gives more time to play Animal Crossing thay weekend.

Anonymous

At the very minimum, I would say to cancel all the gaming/stream part of EZX. We really shouldn't be passing controllers and headsets around. There are starting to be shortages of things like hand sanitizer, so you should at least do what you can to minimize its need at an event like this so the places that really need it can get it.

Anonymous

I don't think the panic is excessive; at least in the United States, I think too many people are underestimating the impact the virus is going to have in the coming months. China quarantined Wuhan, and Italy recently announced that it's quarantining Lombardy --- both have populations larger than New York City. There's a reason that extreme measures are being taken worldwide; the spread of the virus needs to be inhibited before healthcare systems are overwhelmed. It's likely that the virus is already widespread in the United States, and is going untracked due to a current lack of testing kits across the country. Public gatherings need to be postponed or canceled to stem the epidemic, or it's going to be a very rough road ahead.

Anonymous

While I personally think that all that fuss regarding the novel coronavirus is somewhat exaggerated (statistically speaking I am still more likely to die from the cosequences of a "normal" flu than COVID-19), I understand that the decision to organize a public event in a time of growing panic needs to consider more than just sober statistics. In short: I would absolutely join the event (if it was somewhere near me), but I probably would not go ahead to organize it because it's hard to tell how all that fuss will impact the entire process around it. People can get pretty irrational.

Anonymous

This goes against most things I've heard from medical professionals, where the death rate is far greater than that of a flu, which in itself is far greater than that of a cold. What are your credentials on the subject?

Anonymous

I think the unfortunate thing about this is that you guys (unintentionally) picked the worst possible format for this year's event, with random people up on a couch streaming games with shared headsets. If it were me, I wouldn't want to be up there streaming, even with the promise that the headsets will be sprayed and sanitized.

Anonymous

I would rather you guys and the attending allies are safe than everyone worrying about a possible pandemic happening causing misfortune for everyone

Anonymous

While it is important to consider those who have already paid for travel, I think those people will still be able to have an amazing time in LA even if it doesn't include seeing you. While I bet 95%+ of the people in attendance will be within the safest age group, many will be returning home to people who aren't. Additionally, who knows if by the time the event rolls around, California won't have requested large gatherings not to happen at all. Good luck with the decision.

Anonymous

Given the sentiments I'm going to try and organise informal meetups with people I know are in Anaheim / CA that weekend. All will not be lost!

Anonymous

Not worth the hassle and the risk. Better safe than sorry. Plus it's not a good look if the coranavirus somehow spread more in California and it links back to Easy Allies.

Anonymous

Wait till one week before to make a final decision. I planned on attending while I'm visiting LA for the first time, but I understand if you do not want to take the risk. I would be a little upset if people still went to disneyland but postponed EZX, as the amount of people and overall risk of getting the virus are much larger than the EZX meetup.

Anonymous

A few things: 1. The vast majority of cases of this coronavirus are in China, and all worldwide cases combined are less than a pinprick compared to seasonal flu. 2. Because the strain changes every year, and vaccines have to be produced in advance, seasonal flu vaccines are hit-and-miss guesswork. Yet, the world doesn't freak out about it. 3. The world is freaking out about this coronavirus because it COULD be like Spanish Flu. Which was 100 years ago, when medicine and sanitation were more primitive. Other recent viruses that were hyped as being the next Big One but weren't include SARS, West Nile, bird flu, swine flu, Zika, and Ebola. 4. Why do viruses tend to breakout in and strongly affect places like China, South Asia, and Africa, even when billions of dollars are spent by global aid agencies to spread medicine there? Answer; those places are polluted and have lower standards of living, which means weaker immune systems. Which leads to... 5. Us humans are not delicate sheets of tissue paper. We have evolved alongside nature and all the good and bad it brings. Plagues have come and gone, and each time we have become stronger, both in terms of our immune systems and our medical knowledge. There should be a raised level of concern for those suffering from pollution, malnutrition, lack of easy access to medicine and sanitation, pre-existing illness, and genetic anomalies, as well as the very young and the very old. But the rest of us, such as a group of (assuming less than 200) middle-class, well-informed, 30-somethings gathering in Los Angeles have limit approaching zero to worry about. And if we happen to carry/spread the virus around, I'm not too worried about that either, given everything I've said previously.

Bells aka Caprica

I know this isn’t a positive take, but I don’t think non-refundable flights are in the same league as a global health crisis that created a state of emergency at the place the event is being held. Which sucks, because I know I’m disagreeing with some of my closest friends who paid to go. I cancelled my plans to go this week for two reasons. One, COVID-19. Two, I remember being the first person in our dinner group who got body-achingly sick last year, and over the following week everyone else got just as sick. And it wasn’t like we weren’t being mindful of our hygiene. It’s not worth it. I’d love to go if it’s postponed and maybe America gets their stuff together. But I feel like safety comes first. I’d postpone and if things don’t get better by Summer I’d cancel.

Anonymous

All due respect that's pretty irresponsible. It's not about the allies, it's about their relatives and parents, and Milo of course. As well as the relatives of all those who would attend, and in general trying not to accelerate the spread any more than neccessary.

Anonymous

I see both sides of this issue for sure. On one hand, obviously health and safety are very important and no one should take risks they aren't comfortable with. On the other, a lot of people will be out a lot of money for no reason if the event gets cancelled. Personally, I'm not terribly concerned and will possibly go to LA regardless, but my time there will be significantly less bright without any EZA events. Also, i'd like to second Noah's point about possibly cancelling the "EZX" event but still doing smaller meetups, or just having the event itself change to being a meetup, if you decide to go through with it. Not ideal, but risk of sharing germs wold be lessened and the community cold still hang out with youu ALSO, I would urge you to, if you are going to cancel the event, CANCEL it, and NOT postpone it. Postponing it just makes the whole situation a million times worse for the people who spent all their money to come and then couldnt afford to try and come a few months from now. We can wait til year 5, when Everyone can come :) Thanks for asking our input, please stay safe yourselves and do whatever feels right for you <3

Anonymous

So since this posting I've been in complete panic mode doing massive amounts of research to see if there's some way I can salvage the $1000+ I spent on flights and hotel. While my tickets were definitely labeled as non refundable it looks as though some airlines (United in my case) are making exceptions for cancellations in regard to the coronavirus. Of course they're not giving out refunds but travel vouchers for the future tickets instead and (of course) they only last a year. I'm waiting on a firm "no" from EZA before I attempt to call them up and arrange for this to see if they'll honor what their website is saying. I know a lot of you are in a similar pickle as me. Check out the airline's website to see if they're making cancellation exceptions. I'll update this post with my experience if EZX is cancelled and I decide not to go through with the trip. Good luck everyone.

Anonymous

I wouldn't have been going either way, but I have sympathy for everyone who is unsure about what to do and what might happen. I would hate to think this kind of event would put the health of you guys + guests + friends + families at risk. Sadly, I think the safest option is to cancel or at least postpone indefinitely.

Rappy

Honestly, if any of the Allies themselves have ANY worries, it should likely be cancelled. And it will likely have to be cancelled and not postponed, because if it's as bad as everyone is making it out to be it will only get worse. I personally have no problem going if EZX were to still happen but I also don't really have anyone I'm worried about spreading it to. No one will blame EZA for cancelling, or at least no one should. I'm not one that has had to book a flight to attend the event but I have already booked a "non-refundable" airbnb. I know it sucks to have wasted money or be let down by a trip that cost a lot of money, but in the end that money was just spent towards recreational pleasure anyways. But again, I haven't had to spend as much money as others and I'll probably get that money back from airbnb one way or another. It also gives me more time to play Animal Crossing. And as mentioned, the community could still meet with each other.

Anonymous

Tough call; what's the price you'd pay to risk infection, and then spread it back home to family and friends?

Anonymous

To Easy Allies, Thanks for posting this, I was about to post a wall of text comment on Cup of Jones about the risks and lack of responsibility in hosting EZX in this current situation. Seems harsh, but I've read hundreds and hundreds of articles about coronovirus just this week alone and the American government and CDC have absolutely fucked things up - as of yesterday, there were still no screenings in either JFK or LAX even for passengers coming from South Korea or Italy, medical staff who are infected are denied testing and asked to continue working with both infected and health patients, to name a couple among hundreds of other screw ups by the current American government administration. Basically, there's most likely hundreds if not thousands of Americans infected that the government doesn't know because of very few tests. Also, if the worst case scenario happens and someone got infected at EZX, this would become news all over the world and the company would be extremely criticized and condemned for deciding to go through it amid the current situation. I wholeheartedly want EZX to be postponed until it can be a safe environment for all people involved - you Allies, the community, the staff that will service everyone, everyone's families which could be affected if people get infected at EZX and return home, etc. If a safe environment can't be achieved, then it should be cancelled. You can host it next year. I understand that there's both a financial and a morale hit by postponing it, but what people might lose is too high for what they could gain. The reward isn't worth the risks. By reading tens and tens of comments in this news post, I see that the majority of people also prefer if you postponed EZX. Lastly, but not least, if you guys are still deciding to host EZX, ask yourselves how many people will still wanna go? Specially since people wouldn't be able to shake hands and hug each other, which is the point of a meet & greet. No point in hosting an event for the community when most of the community wouldn't be there, and those that would be, wouldn't be able to greet each other properly. So who is this event for? What's its purpose? I'm sure you guys will do the responsible thing. L & R

Ian Alexander

I suggest everyone take it seriously while not panicking. Traveling at this time is a risk because you could help spread the virus to children and the elderly who are less likely to survive. Here in Taiwan, right next to China, we still have only 45 cases and 1 death. We're one of the most densely populated countries in the world, but we've kept it under control while still going to work normally. That's because we limited travel, put those who came back from China in 2 week quarantine, and have strict rules to have temperature taken, and hands disinfected upon entering public places such as at schools, work, and restaurants. I'd say cancelling the event is the responsible thing to do, but I wasn't planning to attend, so maybe I am biased.

Anonymous

I wholeheartedly believe that postponing is not viable for 99% of people wanting to go. If you all see the risk there then it should be canceled outright. It super sucks for people who can't refund some things but it would be even worse to have to pay more to come later. Some people can't get off work then or have used their vacation time and savings for March. If postponing is what you all are leaning toward for safety, just don't. Just cancel for everyone. A special stream and a promise for year 5

Anonymous

According to interviews I've seen, the soonest a vaccine could be fully realized is in 12-18 months (which they said would be the quickest in history). So, I feel like things are only likely to get worse till then. I wasn't planning to attend anyways, but for everyone's sakes, I feel it'd be best to just cancel this year's event.

Andrew Chalmers

Perhaps an online event should replace it. It's the safest and also still community based. Who knows when this will end. Best replace it with something than just wait and see.

Anonymous

This is very considerate and well-informed post. Thanks.

Alexander Zyryanov

To all allies who are upset about possible money loss. My health isn't great and there were many times in my life when I had to cancel my plans to minimize health risks. And when such cancellation includes losing money I always think that I've spent those money on "health insurance": by losing some small amount for not attending planned event I reduce the risk of getting sick and having to spend much more money on my recovery (which will be very tough for my budget). Hopefully this way of thinking will be helpful to at least one person here.

Anonymous

This is 100% the right call. The biggest problem with corona virus is people don't get symptoms until long after they're already contagious. So even if only seemingly healthy low risk people attend an event, they may catch it and then interact with high risk family or friends without knowing they're a carrier

Anonymous

Since I'm not attending the event I can't say specifically what should be done, but I just wanted to say that this amount of transparency is great to see and will hopefully lead to the best decision being made. L&R!

Anonymous

From the last article I can see (from four days ago), it's still unknown when people are contagious. There is there issue that many are asymptomatic while contagious.

Kiraz

For first off: this mostly impacts the people planning on going. So their voices mean more than my opinions. I’m writing this in the middle of FORTLAN, an awesome 100 attendee PC LAN event. We’re having a good time and in a state that isn’t in a state of emergency. By keeping my hands away from my face and regular washing of them Amd having my own individual food I’m hoping to avoid sickness. It seems reasonable right now. But the risk of exposure may be different in LA right now. Hard to say.

Anonymous

First of all, thank you for the transparency, and including us in the conversation. So here's my take, as someone who was not planning on attending: I'm broke. I mean dead-ass broke. I've had to lower my pledge from $10 down to $5, down to $2, and now down to $1 because it's a strain on my finances. But I will not STOP supporting you guys, simply because I feel it's the right thing to do. The 9 of you do so, so very much for me every damn week, it's the least I can do. Considering all that, I would donate in a heart-beat $5 bucks for an EZA Charity Event Stream to help reimburse the allies that couldn't get refunds for flights or hotel bookings (allies that can offer proof of purchase/reservations). Safety first, always. Period. Please cancel or at least postpone the event. I want everyone to be safe!

Anonymous

ever since california declared state of emergency. people are getting more serious at this point where people buy ALOT of Supplies from Grocery stores and Retails wheres most Water, Toilet paper and some other stuff are empty for who knows what when is gonna restock. if you still want to continue the EZX on the 22nd, i wont stop you but after reading most of the comments, feels like its not a good idea for Health Risk Reasons even tho you guys might have Sanitize procedure like soap and clean water, etc., least its my opinion. meet ups is fine for those who still want to go as long as they know what they are getting into and Follow the SAFETY Procedures rule you guys probably make like NO TOUCHING bosman's Face for 3 seconds. if you prefer the alternative, Postponement is a Very low Risk idea as a precaution just like the other events who postpone just to wait it out for Corona Virus to Die Down. not a bad thing but its still something. last but not least, CANCELLING EZX, sure its a GREAT IDEA to protect people's health but at the same time thats just SAD for those who spent most of their TRIP MONEY just to be there for the Celebration of EZA 4th year. these are your OPTIONS to consider. IMO, i would just POSTPONE IT until Corona Virus shenanigans dies down rather than Cancelling it so that people can be MENTALLY ready to go EZX a healthy dose of LOVE AND RESPECT.

Anonymous

Just cancel the event this year. it’s not worth the risk. People need to stop thinking about money when it comes to situations like this. None of you should be risking yourselves or your families for any event.

Anonymous

Hi I want to offer some insight on the effects of the virus as there seems to be a lot of sentiment and publication on it being just a flu virus nothing to worry about. Here a some texts from a relative of mine in Italy: "Make sure you don't get it! You get breathing problems and then you really need intensive therapy and the hospitals will soon be full! Don't shake hands anymore! And talk to people 2 meters away! Do not sit in offices with people! If you need to talk to someone: in the open air and at 2 meters!" "vThe hospitals are already full here. People are already being sent home with major problems and then they say we hope that your body will overcome the virus itself. Here we are now at 50% of the cases that are IN the hospital! It is not the stories in the Netherlands that believe it is a kind of flu and that only old people die. Is not true! Another marathon runner of the week just died after a few days." "It is much and much worse than they say. Also make sure that you do not get too tired with exercise! Do a little less for a while. That marathon runner got it 3 days after a marathon. If your body is tired it gets much easier inside. Are you also telling Ptje? Don't wait for the Dutch government to close down sports halls, because then it will be too late. Already no longer go to places where people come together!"

Anonymous

If people are sick they will still attend. Never trust people.

Anonymous

Hi, I live in Hokkaido, Japan. The governor declared the state of emergency two weeks ago. All schools are closing till the end of this month. All professional sports games are postponed or have no audience. The museums are closed, and the concerts are cancelled. We are told not to go to the packed place like the clubs and sports gyms. The restaurants don't have buffets. We must avoid any kind of direct contacts . The doctors say that people as your age may carry the virus with no symptoms. So younger people spread the virus intentionally. That's the cause of the cluster.

Jack Sibert

Haha I remember a few weeks ago some of the allies scoffing at the fact Sony was dropping out of PAX East.

Anonymous

Hi! I am not sure if this would help but I have some experience in the situation you're in. I work in a research organization and we were supposed to have our annual research conference last week. Although our organization is small (less than 10 people) we always have a huge participants outward of 500 people (last year we had around 1000 participants). Anyway we were supposed to have it last week but decided to postpone to later date due to the virus. As expected we received a lot of calls and emails from disappointed to mad participants (as just like you we have no means to refund their travel fee and accomodations). But we still believed we made the right call as this is a matter of health (not just yours but also your families and even the participants). I also think you should postpone the event due to the ff: 1. Regardless of how careful you want to be it would be impossible to make sure that every participants will follow the precautionary steps. 2. You will have no idea of where the participants have been and who were in contact with them. A lot of them will go to high populated area (i.e. airports) 3. If you were to choose to push through, this might put yourself, families and friends that have compromised or underdeveloped immune systems at risk (i.e. Milo). 4. Although this is a fan event to an extent you are going to be liable to whatever happens to the participants that attend. If say you didn't get the virus but some of your attendees did, it will still reflect to Easy Allies. 5. In conjunction to number 4, if anything happens because of the event you might suffer a bigger community backlash than just postponing it. The consequence of postponing it is smaller than pushing through rhen having a problem. Ultimately if you were to postpone it, you will see a lot of messages saying "you're (or the government) are just overeacting, its not that bad, its only 3%, etc..." but the scariest thing about this virus how fast it and sometimes unknowingly (asymptomatic cases) it spreads. Additionally, while this may result to lower followers, traffic and views the risk in pushing through is just way to high (imo). But at the of the day this are just my opinion and it is up to you guys to decide. P.S. If you were to push through the event I hope that it goes well without a hitch. And if you decide to postpone it, you will take a lot of bashing and in my experience some will still go to the event even tho it was postponed (regardless when we posted it in social media or emailed them directly). Hence, when you make your decision I suggest that you pin it in your fb page, twitter act, website and especially make a video of your decision and post it on youtube as it has your biggest audience. A perspetive of someone who has to cancel an event, Love and Respect Additional P.S.- someone commented a really good suggestion that when you stream, instead of the event you can have a crowdfunding to atleast help refund (dont expect to fully refund them maybe 20%-50% of the cost) of the supposed attendees just be careful of scammers.

Anonymous

Correction: Not intentionally. unintentionally.

Anonymous

Here's my take for what it's worth...four years ago I planned and spent money on a ski weekend in January that ended up being cancelled because that year we didn't get any snow in Chicago that year until almost March. Three years ago I planned a cruise to the Bahamas and there was a Hurricane and the cruise ship got commandeered so I didn't get to go on the cruise. I've been talking about looking forward to meeting the Allies and this trip for weeks so it's not about the money I've spent. It's about the anticipation and excitement of an event that I've been looking forward to since Easy Allies 3rd anniversary. I'm sorry I caused a worldwide epidemic simply by planning a vacation. I guess god hates me and doesn't want me to relax. At least not for more than just a day.... I understand the gravity of the situation and would understand if EZX is postponed, but for what it's worth, it seems the people most voting "better safe than sorry" are people who weren't planning to attend. I will be in L.A. Unless flights are canceled and even so, my flight connects through Seattle so I could land there and drive the rest of the way. Unless Disneyland is closed, I have already purchased my ticket for there as well. It is my time off that is "non-refundable" as my family and boss keep me on a pretty short leash. I want to lay on the beach and bring home some shells, meet the real live bodies of some of the people drawing the amazing art I have been admiring online and hopefully stand in the presence of "The Nine". And stuff my face! I've lost 20lbs this past six months so I deserve it! L&R JB

Anonymous

As someone who wasn't going to attend either way: I do want to suggest that cancellation may be a better alternative to postponing. People took months to save for a trip like this and the spread of COVID-19 is still unpredictable. It's impossible to say what things will look like in 3-4 months. I know you'd want to make up for the event, but I also don't believe it is a good idea to set up another one when 1) things are still so uncertain 2) it takes a lot of resources to be able to attend in the first place.

Anonymous

I was planning to come, but I did not buy my plane ticket yet because the price has been dropping every week. So it won't affect me if you decide to postpone. But I think I will still come if you do the event

Anonymous

I live on the east coast, so I'm saving for the dream of EZA coming to Pax East. However, I think it would be best to postpone the event until the threat of spreading COVID-19 lessens. No need to risk it especially when everyone is starting to panic, and we don't know how much worse this could get.

Anonymous

I think you should do what you're most comfortable with. Given how many people got sick at last year's event, I don't blame any of the Allies for wanting to exercise caution in a situation like the one we are in. Many people are potentially at risk or have at risk family members that they could be putting in danger by attending. Obviously I'm bummed since I had to miss years 2 and 3 due to my personal circumstances, and was excited to have the means to go this year (and have flight and hotel reservations that are largely non-refundable) So I will likely still spend a week in Anaheim if the event is cancelled, and don't know if I would be able to attend a postponed event, but I would rather the Allies do what is best for their health and the health of the rest of us. I'll still watch the Anniversary event in whatever form it takes and enjoy it. I'm sure anyone who isn't concerned about the virus and who has made plans can still find some fun in meeting up with their friends in the area and making the best of their vacation.

Anonymous

man, traveling within the USA is pretty cheap (compared to some places) - head west! ;)