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WhoviVortex

Really interested to see your take of this one!

Jason

Until the frog..It was ranked as loved it for me. It was one of those better episodes of S11 hands down

Will

I never minded the frog, although it was a surrreal choice. That was kind of a Douglas Adams-esque moment. That really was some attrocious parenting by that guy, though I can understand that he was kind of 'addicted' to seeing this copy of his wife. I did love the setting and the 'horror movie' vibe at the beginning before it became clear what was going on. I thought it was a decent episode overall.

WhoviVortex

Honestly I enjoyed this episode more on rewatch with you; you really focus on the human and emotional aspect of the story, which I often forget. Graham and Grace's scenes are really good and painful. I'm not huge on the kid's Dad getting off consequence-free for neglecting his kid for weeks(?), but hey... The Frog in the Chair is ridiculous, and I know loads of people despise it. Honestly I'm 50/50, but I do love how starkly bold it is to throw in such a silly visual to represent such an emotionally-packed scene. I respect that, honestly? Glad you had fun with it!

otherboy

I enjoyed this one. It had just the right amount of ridiculousness and heart to make me smile and cry😂 🐸

Daryl

Just a small glimmer of a familiar tune once more. Honestly it was going so very well until just one part of that final act. I was swept up in the moment right until the 🐸 I said before that this was another example of failing to stick the landing. I'll edit myself here and properly reflect after watching this again and seeing how moved you became. This is the 3-4 time I've watched this episode. There are plenty of aspects that continued to work well after this singular moment. I just I found that singular specific choice so jarring at exactly the wrong moment. Just when all the emotional weight had been so very successfully built up. Then that choice threw me right out of the moment and continues to do so on rewatches. More so now that I know that it is coming of course. Surely this would have been a perfect opportunity to reflect on simply ANY aspect of The Doctor's previous lives. Where the pull could have felt way more significant. It's absolutely not like Grace meant nothing to The Doctor, I can't and would never say that. Perhaps it's just that she represents the very nature of lost companions. I can analyse this idea after the fact on what this individual moment was perhaps attempting to convey. But I unfortunately didn't feel this in the moment when it is critically required to be the most relevant. I feel that it should have been Graham in those final moments, attempting to say goodbye to Grace. But that's on the basis that they were insistent on using her voice during this scene. That moment was handled very well anyway even before The Doctor was left with the frog with Grace's voice. A frog was a significant element of character relationships previously established in the episode. Maybe not the right choice for The Doctor though. I'd have gone for continuing the emotional relevance of loss and grief. Rather than this misaligned quirky surrealism. Honestly it just feels like another ill-conceived moment pasted in from a Whovian playbook and a spinning wheel of choice. Insert part here where Doctor says, does or experiences something bizarre. This era just wants to have a better idea of it's own identity. Having said all that. I thoroughly enjoyed you appreciating all the good stuff that this episode has to offer. It's wonderful that this minor aspect didn't play any part in spoiling it for you. Saddly for me it just has the misfortune of being the frog episode. Which is a great shame really.

JY

This story almost had something going for it but once again, the ending and execution of certain things let it down although at least Graham gets acknowledged by Ryan. It's really weird how the Solitract doesn't entice Yaz or The Doctor to stay through any past forms. Yaz would have been better suited to looking after Hanne and Ryan could have taken her place in seeing Grace with Graham. Missed opportunity there. Hanne's father has very questionable methods too.