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Once Upon A Time 2x6 “Tallahassee” FULL REACTION (Patreon)

Published:
2020-07-17 16:38:23
Edited:
2020-08-09 01:45:18
Imported:
2021-10

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Paul Fisher

I really liked your insights into how Emma's character has been shaped by abandonment. It makes for great tragedy that she thought no one loved her when she didn't know both Neal and her parents abandoned her out of love in attempts to protect her. Your suggestion that the name "Neal Cassady" is reminiscent of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is a really interesting one - it certainly fits Neal's life of crime and may have been part of the writer's intention, but I think the main basis for the character's name is the real Neal Cassady, who was involved with the Beat Generation of writers and in particular was a friend of Jack Kerouac and was a model for the character of Dean in Kerouac's novel "On the Road." One of the reasons that this is among my favorite episodes is that it shows us so many developments that were hinted at and foreshadowed back in the first season, including the references to Emma's time in Tallahassee and her time in prison. There are also more recent events that tie in. Remember we saw in the last two episodes that Henry was having trouble sleeping. Now we see that his nightmares are being addressed in this episode and it seems they may be more significant than we previously thought. I also love the fact that we got to see August again in this episode in which we learn that the humans' account of the war with the giants, as told by Hook, was a false story created by the winners. That ties back to the fact that Pinocchio's real-world name, "August Wayne Booth," was inspired by the literary critic, Wayne Booth, who coined the term "unreliable narrator" for stories in which the author's description in a novel is not meant to be an accurate description of the events. And of course, Pinocchio was known for lying and giving in to temptation. As Rumplestiltskin always says, names are important.

Heidi Elizabeth Marcum

Tallahassee- I love this episode so much, so thank you for another fun reaction! Of course you can probably guess, that of course my favorite scenes throughout this episode are between Emma and Hook, given that they are my favorite characters, which I've mentioned more than once already. I just absolutely love these two characters. :) Also... I love this episode because it answers so many questions in regards to Emma's past, and there are so many brilliant connections that I really love. First and foremost... I just love Hook's and Emma's banter, Hook's cheekiness towards Emma, and how he always flirts with her. Although, he doesn't just flirt with Emma, but he flirts with all women including Mary Margaret, Aurora, and Mulan too. However, it's clear in this episode that Hook is far more intrigued by and is interested in Emma like he indicates when it's decided she's the one going with Hook up the beanstalk, and he states to her, "I hoped it'd be you.", when Emma comes over to him so he can place the magic cuff on her wrist. He also tries to learn more about Emma as they're climbing the beanstalk together because he genuinely appears to want to get to know who she really is. And I love it! I love, love, love Hook... like I've mentioned a number of times. :) One of my favorite scenes in this episode, is the moment Hook and Emma share as he's helping her by disinfecting her wound with his rum and by wrapping a rag around her bloodied injured hand. He's totally flirting with her, all the while helping to protect her from the legends he knows about the giants smelling blood and of them being dastardly and evil. I especially love when Emma notices his tattoo and calls him out on his real reason for wanting to kill Rumplestiltskin... for him having killed Milah. Such a beautiful moment between these two. Also... Hook did steal Milah away from Rumple and while it was wrong of him to have an affair and to be willing to take her away from her husband and son, Milah was the one who left them, having willingly left with Hook because they loved one another. I feel that the fault for what happened to Milah was her own, and Rumplestiltskin's. Hook wasn't to blame. You can't always help who you fall in love with. Another of my absolute favorite moments is when Emma and Hook are climbing the beanstalk, when Hook reveals he can read the look of loss and lack of love on her face, because he had lived among the Lost Boys in Neverland for centuries and he understands the reasons for their despair as well. Both Emma and Hook are very perceptive characters, which makes them an amazing team... just like Hook tells Emma. Now... I understand why Emma locks Hook's wrist in the shackle in order to force him to stay behind long enough to give her and her mother and their friends a head start. Because she doesn't trust him, especially given the circumstances of her past in regards to Neal, as well as from her parents all abandoning her, and seeing Hook only as a villain. It makes sense that she would be especially skeptical of Hook and his true motives. However, I was just so disappointed too, because I really would have loved to see where things went from there on out between the women and Hook had he continued on with them on their journey. In my eyes, Hook truly appears to be genuine in his desire to help them in spite of him being a pirate, and I believe he was telling the truth. Which is why he was so hurt that Emma would abandon him up there, especially believing the giant would kill him. Sadly, Emma could only see him as a pirate out for himself though and she is desperate to get home to her son. And now... Hook is angry all right. I really feel the chemistry between Hook and Emma, and especially with the actors who play them... Colin O'Donoghue and Jennifer Morrison. And I can't help but believe in the possibility of her and him getting together. Next... I also really like the scene in the very end with David and Henry, as David lights the candle for his grandson to catch Henry's nightmares like he used to do for Snow. It's so sweet. And the parallel between this scene and Aurora having the same nightmares in the Enchanted Forest is fantastic. As are the parallels between Emma and Hook, with Emma and Neal eleven years ago. Now... I am thrilled to see August again in the flashbacks with Neal and I really like this scene with them, even though I don't really care much for Neal as an overall character. I think he and Emma have good chemistry, but I don't like that they were both thieves and that Neal didn't really do much to encourage her away from going down the wrong path. However, I do once again like the parallels between Emma being in love with Neal and them thieving together, while Emma also seems to feel an attraction towards Hook, who is a pirate and known thief as well. You can see there is a genuine draw she feels towards Hook. From when they're climbing up the beanstalk together as Hook convinces her to talk with him about her having been abandoned and being an open book, them both having been in love in their pasts and losing their loves, to them both learning to put their trust in one another. Emma does feel there's more to Hook, but out of fear to trust him more fully, Emma makes a last minute decision in the moment she and Hook are looking at one another, just before she chooses to lock his wrist in the shackle. Emma doesn't just go along with his flirtations. A part of her is definitely attracted to him, while the other part of her...the more sensible part of her, pushes him away because she couldn't choose to trust him out of fear of him possibly betraying her first. With all that being said... I love August and I really wanted to see him more in the present day in Storybrooke. But it is brilliant to have him come back into the show's story here in this moment to show us the reason why Emma is all alone when she first comes into the story and arrives in Storybrooke, why she was in prison when Henry was born as was revealed back in season one's second episode... The Thing You Love Most, why Emma is so angry with Henry's father revealed by Emma to Mary Margaret in season one's episode... True North, and why he isn't involved in her life or even knows about Henry just like she states to Regina in the Pilot episode. For me... it's so much better with August being the reason for Neal abandoning her, rather than Neal simply abandoning her for the watches like I initially speculated might have been what happened while watching this episode, before August appeared. It makes their past together that much more intriguing for me. I love how August convinces Neal to listen to him and to leave Emma, which eventually allows for Emma to eventually find her way to Storybrooke thanks to Henry having to come find her. I wished then that we could have found out what he revealed to Neal inside that box. But yet I love this mystery too. Anyone would naturally think August was crazy for going on about magic and such as he does. Yet Neal quickly comes to believe him nonetheless. And it all depends on what's hidden within that box. :) It's just sad about all that Emma had to go through, with being abandoned by the man she loved when he turned her in, she became imprisoned, and worse... upon her having Henry in prison too. I can't even imagine how difficult her life had been back then. She wasn't innocent in the crimes that landed her in jail, but she didn't deserve that kind of pain. And while Neal did do right by Emma, she doesn't know that. So sad. And all of this of course explains why she felt she had to give Henry up for adoption. So he could have a better life she couldn't offer him. Not so long as she remained in prison, then would eventually have to build a new life for herself upon her release, with her time in prison hanging over her head. Emma wanted what was better for her son, so she could give him his best chance, as was shared way back in the Pilot episode as well. Emma's past is so sad, but I absolutely love learning more about her. And as for August being there in the first place... August tells Emma that it wasn't until his own arrival in Storybrooke that he finally found her again. However, over the years, he never forgot about his promise to his father that he would take care of Emma and therefore, he searched for her within the past years as well. Unfortunately, the temptation of the money Neal gave to him for her was too much of a temptation for August and so he stole the money and strayed from trying to help Emma once again. And back in season one's episode, The Stranger... when he tells Emma he got a painful reminder at 815 AM in Phuket, which is at 815 PM in Storybrooke upon Emma's first arrival in Storybrooke, while he was living in Phuket as he started to become wood again... it's because he lost track of Emma once again after stealing this money. Phuket is the name August wrote down for the cops when he sends Emma the keys for her yellow bug, yet no money, as is revealed in the end scene when the guard shows Emma what she'd be getting when she is released from prison. So we know then that August had stolen the money, and had started living in Phuket not long after he left Neal in this episode, and where he had been living when he started becoming wood again as he revealed to Emma back in The Stranger. I love all of the great parallels to past episodes in this one! Next... I also like the moment with Mary Margaret helping Aurora to sleep like David did for her when she had nightmares, even without the candle. I like how very motherly she is for Aurora while her own daughter is busy trying to get the compass with Hook. I also really like how Emma asks Mulan to be the one to cut the beanstalk down in case she didn't return in ten hours. Because she knows her mother would never agree. And I love even more how Mary Margaret fights Mulan to protect her daughter when Mulan starts to cut it down with her enchanted sword, and the moment afterwards between Emma and Mary Margaret as her mother pleads with her daughter never to ask something like that of Mulan again, because they need to return home together. So beautiful. :) Oh... and in answer to your question about what is on the postcard August sends Neal... the picture on the card shows Storybrooke's clocktower with the words... Welcome to Storybrooke on it, while on the back is written a single word... Broken, meaning that the curse has been broken and that Emma had succeeded. And lastly... I really love the giant we meet in this episode and especially how he reveals that the victors were the ones to tell the stories their way, to make all people believe giants were evil, when in fact none of it is true. This giant isn't evil at all. Just lonely, misunderstood, and sad after there had been a great battle between the giants and humans that wound up killing all the rest of his family. The special effects for the giant might not be so great, but I really like this overall storyline with him and I like the actor who plays him a lot too. Jorge Garcia, who I know and love from another TV show... Hawaii Five-0. I never watched Lost because I never had any interest in it, but I also know he's from that show as well, which is pretty cool. But I am always able to look past all of the special effects when they appear to be bad, because I appreciate this show so much and I absolutely love the story that this show's creators, writers, and especially the actors are trying to tell. :) Overall... I really love this episode so much and it is definitely one of my overall favorite episodes throughout season two. Thank you again, so much for reacting to Once Upon a Time!!!! Be well and be happy. :) Until next time...

Lina Krouford

I'm so glad you enjoyed Neal! This episode is one of my favorites from this show. I love the chemistry between Emma and Neal - they are so easy and happy with each other, you actually believe they were dating for some time. Emma and Hook are different - they also have chemistry, but it's more of sexual tension imo.

KayGee

Thanks for another great reaction. I'm one of the few people who isn't really a big fan of Neal. Yes, I know they were dating for a while and he broke her heart due to what August showed him, and that's why she has trust issues. But that's not the reason I don't like him. I simply just don't feel the chemistry between them. But like I said, mine is an unpopular opinion.