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Now, I completely understand Cinders psychology. This episode was a wonderful look into her psyche and kind of what made her The super villain that she is today. Which is interesting because she inevitably killed the person that she was once subservient to sew wonder if that's a precursor to what's going to happen with Salem and some capacity. She learned cruelty from the world that she inhabited and from her point of view the only thing that mattered was the amount of power you have over other people that is how you commands respect, but that is how you command blind  obedience to other people



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Anonymous

He knew her for like five years, so it seems weird that he wouldn't find out about the torture that whole time. Even if he didn't know, that doesn't excuse his lack of action. He DEFINITELY knew she was being unfairly treated, she was skin and bones so he knew she was hungry, he saw how she was basically a slave for them. That should be grounds enough for him to take action to remove her from that environment. After she finally killed the people who had been literally torturing her for five years, she turns to him and says "I don't have to run now" with the most heartbreaking voice. She didn't realize how bad killing was because her entire moral compass is skewed. She was just a kid, 15 years old, desperately trying to protect herself. And this man doesn't even try to explain things to her, he just brings out his weapons to fight her. And you can see the three stages on her face...she looks at him with relief and pride, then you see her face fall into anguish when she realizes he's turning against her and 'betraying' her. Then she becomes angry because she's tired of the abuse and she wants to be free. After she kills him, she takes off the necklace, and you can literally see the scar around her neck where that necklace was. Looking back on all of her outfits, she ALWAYS has had that part of her neck covered. I'm not advocating for violence. I'm actually a pacifist by religion. But I'm not willing to ignore the nuances of victims resorting to violence when trying to protect themselves, especially children. Cinder's actions as an adult are unjustifiable in every way, but the flashback of events in this episode, in my mind, isn't a power-hungry murderer who takes advantage of her emotionally reliant underlings (*cough*emerald), she was just a kid who desperately wanted to be free of servanthood and physical abuse. It's just such a tragic story that I think is important to the complexities and nuances of her character.

Anonymous

Also, I commented at the end of v7 to remember a line Cinder said, so I'll remind you... While fighting Penny and Winter, Cinder tells Winter the following: "You Atlas elites are all the same! You think hoarding power means you'll have it forever, but it just makes the rest of us hungrier! And I refuse to starve." That has a WHOLE new meaning now, doesn't it?

Anonymous

100% THIS. When I saw cinders backstory, I cried. The one person who SHOULD have saved her tried to put her right back into slavery. The actions of the so-called Hunter was appalling. It's also proof of what Yangs mom was trying to tell her about Oz's failings in his schools. They had no real way of sorting out the bad eggs and actively recruited bad people. Cinder is 100% a product of Ozs bad training of his hunters. Zero moral ethics shown in many "hunters" throughout the show.

David J Moore

Regarding your comment that her work is just normal hotel work, keep in mind she's not staff. She was adopted as slave labor. I dunno if you ever made the connection, but Cinder is based on Cinderella. Also interesting to consider what made Cinder snap. They were about to take the only gift she'd ever been given, the only possession she'd ever had to her name, the symbol of her freedom. Makes sense, honestly. Cinder's story is one of someone who has never in her life known live. Rhodes might've been, but he ultimately betrayed her by not even giving her the benefit of the doubt. Emerald might be another, but without someone to help heal her trauma she doesn't have the slightest clue how to engage with it healthily.

Spadeas

I was talking about Emerald seeing Cinder as a big sister / mother and Cinder having the same kind of relationship with Salem. That was what I was talking about. Cinder has lived her whole life with parental figures telling her what to do and a mother figure who abused her, until she was strong enough to destroy her and she does the same with Salem. Being the Fall Maiden, she is useful and if she gets the other powers of the maiden, she will only become stronger and be able to stand up to Salem. This is what she works towards. Become strong enough, so that no one ever commands her again, that she no longer has to run away and that she no longer fails ... Now on a darker note ... Since you were talking about abuse and murder as a possible answer. There is a story in France that has recently appeared in the media, a woman having killed her husband. But the point is, that her husband was before her mother's boyfriend, he raped her when she was a minor, causing her to fall under his control, married her, continued to abuse her and continued to abuse her and he even prostituted her. He was arrested by the police a few times when he beat her, but the police always sent him home to his "wife" afterwards. When she rebelled he remarked that their daughter had grown old enough to take over... She didn't plan to kill him, but she felt it was the only thing to do to protect her children. And even despite everything she's been through, she doesn't want to be excused because she knows that taking a life is not a good thing... Sometimes, even if murder is not the solution, when you are in the depths of despair, with your back to the wall, it is the only thing to hang on to. Sorry for the rather dark story, but when you mentioned the show based on real events, it brought that story back to my mind.

DeAnthony Potts

I'm glad someone is enjoying cinders lore as much as I did but did I miss him dropping episode 5?

JakShowtime

They were uploaded in a weird order. It's below the Episode 3 reactions.