Lincense to Print and Sell p.2 (Patreon)

We have read all your comments and messages and we think that we need to clarify everything very precisely so there are no doubts about this offer.


Other Companies and our Company
First of all, we need to explain that we are not the same as a big part of patreon creators is. When the team is limited and the artist is the centerpiece/CEO of the project it is way easier to simply let patreons print and sell his work. For us, it is a bit more difficult. At this point, our main income is from the resin miniatures and boardgames sales. We have a lot of people for production, packing, delivery, etc. We need to think about those sales and people and we won't do anything that would endanger that. Allowing uncontrolled crowd (and that is created by Patreon merchant tiers) to print and sell is not something that we will accept because we want to, and need to have some kind of supervision on our resellers. The most important thing for us is to know by name people that will use our work for money.


Printers and Making money
We have divided 3d printing people into 3 tiers:
1. Hobby Tier - Those are people that sell their prints to their gaming group, friends and family and they are making just a few extra prints per month so they manage to cover their patreon costs. They do not have a webstore, do not go and show their prints to local stores to make money but more to show-off what they did. Making money is not their goal when it comes to supporting our Patreon. If you are in this group this license thing is NOT for you. We are completely fine with selling single prints ocasionally to people you know with the basic patreon tier. Let's be real - it is impossible, and never will be possible to control every patreon. If you sell minis just to add a few $ to your hobby budget that is OK, we are nerds and geeks as well and we understand it completely.
2. Startup Tier - Those are people that have some experience with 3d printing and more and more people around ask if they could print this and that for money. They decided to try to make a part-time job/extra income out of it. If you are in this tier this license thing is FOR YOU. We are happy to help you with everything, we will provide you with the renders, pictures, and all other stuff that we create for our platforms. We started the same way and we support all people that try to make a living out of something they love. In return, we want to be sure that you will try your best to make it happen and you won't leave it after a few weeks. That is what the RETURNABLE License Fee if for. Also as we said before we will take a percentage of your sales so you won't have any monthly cost just because you sell our minis. You make money - we make money, you don't - we don't.
3. Pro Tier - Those are people that already have companies/webstores/shops and are looking for another product for their store. If you are this tier this license thing is FOR YOU. We know that when you start to sell bigger quantities and you move out of the startup phase monthly costs start to pile up. Rent, salaries, taxes are a pain in the ass so the most important thing for you is the profit you can make. We understand that completely. We know that there are only a few other artists that create as awesome models as we do (sounds a bit narcissistic :P) and as long as you are focused on selling a lot of our products we are open to negotiate PERCENTAGE after the first month.


How this would work
As mentioned before we would create contracts for everyone that wants to work with us. Details would be discussed and negotiated individually but the main terms are:

LICENSE FEE - If you decide to work with us we will charge you $120 to start. This money goes for the administration costs and will be a small insurance if, in the end, you decide not to work with us or you won't be able to create any profit. As I wrote before this is a refundable fee and the condition to get that refund is to make a sales that will result in $250 cut for us by the end od 2020.

PERCENTAGE - For the first month it is 20%. At the end of every month, we will discuss the goals to work on better terms for you.  We do not have any expectations or numbers in mind at this point because we have no experience with this kind of licensing. Some people already declared that they want to work with us. We will check sales results for all of them after 1st month and we will figure out our discount system.

PATREON - Still the only way to get current files will be to support us on Patreon. The main reason is that we are doing tweaks and changes almost always until the last day before release so there is no way we can offer early access for resellers at this point.

PAST RELEASES - Distributors will have access to the lines they have missed on Patreon. The price for each set will be around $30 but this is yet to be determined. We won't give access to those lines for the regular $10 because that price is reserved only for active patreons and always will be but still we will make a better deal than buying all models separately on MMF.

SALE PLACES - You need to declare where your sales will take place. Those can be multiple but we need to have a full list of stores and websites where our products are available. Ofc if you decide to go to an event or expand to another platform just drop us an e-mail so we can update our documents.


That is how this will work for 2020. If you are interested drop me an e-mail at r.lakomiak@titan-forge.com. 

For all of you that already reached out to me, please give me a few days to create all the documents that we need so we could move forward with setting this up asap. 

If you still think that it is not fair especially comparing this to other Patreons we have an additional quick explanation. We do not agree with the model other creators approved. It does not have any tools, terms, documents that any serious cooperation between entities should always have. It is simple to manage but it creates a huge window for piracy and theft. We work with a lot of other companies in different areas and we won't discard what we believe is needed to work with respect to each other here. The biggest difference between us and other creators is that we do not look at this as another simple patreon functionality tier but as direct cooperation between us and you. That is the only way it will work for us and we can discuss numbers and percentages but using other companies as examples of something that we should follow makes no sense at this point. 

Also for the quality, we can agree that other artists are on the same level and sentences like "Have you seen this model, that this guy did? It is fkn amazing/awesome/ridiculous" are a daily thing at our office but as for the quantity, we do not agree in the end. At this point we have a LOT of content we release every month and we will also move into additional areas (and I am not even mentioning double releases :) ). For us, it is important to provide the best monthly 'content to price' ratio we can, and I believe that we are on the right track. This huge amount of content that our resellers will get access to, in our opinion makes a really good deal out of what we offer.

We are looking forward to your comments!
Cheers,
Romek