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Cards That Aren't Good Enough (Anymore) | #355 (Patreon)

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2020-10-21 18:00:17
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2022-03

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The Commander format has evolved a lot in recent years. On this episode, Jimmy and JLK talk about how their card evaluations have changed and which specific effects they used to play a lot in the past, but rarely put into decks anymore.

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What we talked about on THE END STEP:


The Boys (Amazon Prime)

https://www.amazon.com/The-Boys-Season-1/dp/B07QNJCXZK

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Cards That Aren't Good Enough (Anymore) | The Command Zone #355 | Magic: The Gathering EDH Commander

Support the show and become a Patron! Be a part of our community, receive awesome rewards, and more! http://www.patreon.com/commandzone ---------- Show Notes: The Commander format has evolved a lot in recent years. On this episode, Jimmy and JLK talk about how their card evaluations have changed and which specific effects they used to play a lot in the past, but rarely put into decks anymore. ---------- AUDITION TO BE A GUEST ON GAME KNIGHTS! This is your chance to sit down with The Command Zone crew, become knighted, and show the world your Commander skills as a special guest on an episode of Game Knights! For details on how to enter, plus rules and restrictions, follow the link: https://collected.company/audition/ ---------- The Command Zone podcast is brought to you by Card Kingdom! Make sure to use our affiliate link when ordering Magic cards, accessories and more: http://www.cardkingdom.com/commandzone Huge thanks to UltraPro (https://instagram.com/ultraprointl/) for sponsoring this episode and providing awesome prizes for our giveaways. Be sure to check out their new PRO GLOSS sleeves and MYTHIC COLLECTION deck boxes. Find UltraPro: Facebook: https://facebook.com/ultraProInternational/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ultraProIntl ---------- Print official US postage from the comfort and convenience of your own home or office! Go to http://www.stamps.com/ and click on the microphone at the top of the page and type COMMAND for a special offer. RayCon has the most stylish and affordable wireless earbuds on the market. Visit https://www.buyraycon.com/command and save 15 % on your order for a limited time! Order G-Fuel using the promo code: commandzone and get 30% off! Visit: https://gfuel.ly/CommandZone (discount offer valid for a limited time only) ---------- What we talked about on THE END STEP: The Boys (Amazon Prime) https://www.amazon.com/The-Boys-Season-1/dp/B07QNJCXZK ---------- Follow us on Instagram: @CommandCast Follow us on Twitter: @CommandCast @JoshLeeKwai @jfwong Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CommandCast/ Email us: commandzonecast@gmail.com ---------- Huge thanks to Geoffrey Palmer the awesome Living Cards animations. Follow him here: https://twitter.com/livingcardsmtg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIuqWt79_d0hUK-dRhzFtAQ Commander/EDH Official Rules, Banlist, and more: https://mtgcommander.net/

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Anonymous

Surprised to see Chromatic Lantern on the cover. That card is so helpful in 3, 4, and 5 color decks

Anonymous

Sad to see the push to make decks lower CMC and faster. I get having decks that run faster, but to follow this philosophy in general is essentially just an arms race and REALLY limits your deck building choices. You wind up with running decks that feel generic. Support diversity of cards, keep things interesting.

Anonymous
>>46256089

That all depends on your play group though. Setting restrictions like making budget decks to fit in better and not running tutors tends to slow everything down. You can also just run all the hate cards to stop the insane amounts of ramp. Lavinia has become a real problem in my play group for that very reason

Anonymous

Gotta be honest... this is a tough video to watch. I love and play several of the cards you mention here. One of the things that brought me to EDH from other formats was the fact that you didn't have to have the most efficient card / deck to have an enjoyable game. I am very concerned about players being at a disadvantage for relying on less optimal cards, especially in the mana base, because they're not willing or able to put the money out for the best cards. The growing cost of MTG is a real issue. It also makes the power level conversation much more important... you don't want to be the one person playing Cabal Stronghold when everyone else has Cabal Coffers (and vice versa).

Anonymous
>>46250948

I use it in my Orzhov deck because we have several local players that like to mess with mana sources, but I can see why it’s not used as much overall.

Anonymous

Josh, you say 45% or 40% of people have a wheel deck, but your own poll shows that only 11% have one, and 13% have both, which would mean only 24% at most have wheel decks, not 45%.

Anonymous

Great video, if you play a lot of these cards and your games are fun then just take all of it with a grain of salt. But if you play these and are trying to win in your meta but find yourself losing more than 20% of the time look to upgrade a few cards in your decks.

commandzone
>>46302722

Yeah. I misspoke in the moment. We did put the correction on-screen in the video version. -JLK

Anonymous

I mourn the death of the 3 mana rock. I know there a few in some situations that are still useful, but I have seen for myself anything that doesn't have a good enough secondary effect is worthless. I'm finding in many cases the mana dork is slowly meeting the same fate. 1 mana dorks are playable, and special dorks with special abilities are still seeing play in specific decks in my play group. But more often than not if a dork doesn't produce all the colors you use, it gets cut unless it produces more mana than it costs.

Anonymous

To me all the 3 mana rocks are very situational. An example would be Chromatic Lantern in a 5 color deck or Heraldic Banner if you play lotsa tokens.

Anonymous

How can i figure out my patreon user id??