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New method for support creation (Patreon)

Published:
2020-10-04 14:35:01
Imported:
2023-02

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I wanted to let everyone know, starting with Mondays release, the support files will now be STLs with supports already created. I was supplying the Chitubox scene files, for you to slice yourself, but the change to Lychee has been made. 

The lychee scene files of course be available to make edits if you want along with,  the raw STLs before supports and the STLs with supports, exported from Lychee, will be uploaded.

Lychee is proving to be a much more efficient piece of software for support creation, giving you all much better print results, and will be used until that is no longer the case.

Comments

Anonymous

Well Julian Schuetze, will you be paying for my subscription of Lychee? Didn't think so... Best to keep some opinions to one's self... I for one am a Support Guru and find Chitubox's latest iteration 1.7 far superior than anything they have released, and stable, don't believe me, go watch 3DPRINTINGPRO reviews of it on YouTube... As for Lychee, I'm not adding it to my system or work flow...

Anonymous

so after I had to check if I inadvertently landed on facebook instead of patreon based on some of the comments here, I just have to open my mouth before I marinade in my salt some more: first of all, some misconceptions - lychee is FREE, you won't ever need the paid version, and no one got paid to advertise it. both chitu and lychee are experimental and unstable, but there are two big differences: first, lychee is just way more advanced regarding support creation than chitu - this is why so many support-creators switch over to it, because it streamlines their ridiculously large workflow, doesn't crash as often, and just makes doing their job way easier because it's simply the better program for it, and second, the dev team of lychee is VERY open to the community - they are in direct contact with a few of the support-creators and actively listen to them and work with them to get rid of bugs, optimize and make lychee better on a regular basis. all the support-creators, which probably are amongst the best in the world, work incredibly hard; they are on a very tight deadline every month because they can only start working once the model creator is done, which often doesn't happen until the very end of the month, and they have to make supports for some of the hardest models, especially huge highly detailed stuff like from MMM/AVG/LotP and others, that are able to be removed in one go without leaving any marks whatsoever while still making sure every little detail prints perfectly - so, a switch to a program that can mean the difference between a fully supported release on time or a heavily delayed one, supportfiles that print perfectly or are faulty, or support-creators that can do their job reliably for a living or are struggling hard with burn-out is really not open to much debate because it becomes a very logical choice, and neither the model creators nor the support-creators deserve any of the shit they had to hear lately... a lot of people are blowing the 'problem' far out of it's proportions - so let's look at what really changed? you still get unsupported files for doing your own supports, supported files as stl, and editable lychee files - just no more chitubox files, which were notoriously unstable and hard to edit afterwards anyway (tell me if that got better in 1.7). you can still open the supported stls in chitu just fine, arrange them however you want, add supports if you think there are places that need extra supports with no problem, slice them however you want... ...the ONLY thing that changes is, in the rare case where you want to remove or move some supports, you now have to open a different (again, free) program, move them, and save it again and that's it - the only case I can imagine were that would be relevant is when you want to arrange a plate in a way where supports would be in the way of some proper tetrising. (and if we're really going there - in lychee you can even change some other parameters without losing all supports completely that you can't change in chitu, for example changing orientation slightly or lowering/raising a model) so, if people really are that hurt by this tiny little change that they even have to unsubscribe (and for whatever reason announce that they're unsubscribing, hoping to get the creators to do what, exactly? pander to a minority? why should they? isn't that the very definition of entitlement?) I just find it very hard to believe that this is because they have a real problem with lychee (which, again, you never even have to use), and not just because of a hurt ego, simple change aversion or the need to feel important, and since no one can help with those anyway there is no need at all to continue to lash out at the creators and support-creators who are simply doing. what. they. think. is. best. for. all. PS: just so you know my stance - I hate lychee, I am very much a 'never change a running system'-person, but I still can see that lychee is just objectively better for supports right now and that this change is simply not gonna affect me that negatively, or in any form at all...

Julian Schuetze
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100%. These patreons are only $10 a month for incredible quality minis and high quality pre-made support. The value is insane. People are acting like a software change is like they're blowing their entire fiscal budget for the year because of it