Sewers of Paris: Talking About Pleasure (Ep 424 - Madonna/Shantel & Trevor) (Patreon)

I have two guests on this week's Sewers of Paris podcast — Shantel Buggs and Trevor Hoppe are the co-authors of a new book about how queer people talk to each other about sex entitled “Unsafe Words: Queering Consent in the #MeToo Era.” I spoke to them both about what brought them to this topic, and about their individual experiences growing up as queer people in very different environments. We’ll hear first from Shantel, who planned to be a doctor before she felt the unexpected call from a very different field of study. And then from Trevor, who was a self-described “horny little teenager” whose early experiences with gay community involved a chaotic nosebleed caused by dancing too close to a butt.