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Alright, here's an odd one. MinnMax's Ben Hanson interviews John Dickerson from 60 Minutes, CBS News, former host of Face the Nation, and the Slate Political Gabfest about his latest book "The Hardest Job in the World" and what it takes to "min/max" the American presidency. Dickerson also talks about his history with video games, from working at Atari to his love for Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings. We also talk about the upcoming release of Age of Empires IV from Relic and Microsoft. Based on his descriptions, we'd love to see your feedback in the comments on what game he should check out next.

You can watch the video version right here - https://youtu.be/Ln2WI6WNQdQ

To jump to a particular discussion, check out the timestamps below... 

00:01:33 - Comparing Age of Empires to the presidency

00:04:01 - Min/Maxing the American presidency

00:18:39 - Do politicians call for advice?

00:23:46 - The secret to John’s serenity in DC

00:26:36 - Note-keeping tips

00:29:39 - John Dickerson’s on Age of Empires and game recommendations

Comments

Anonymous

This is wild. Not the content I at all expect from Hanson but fucking rad as hell. Will listen to this later on.

Anonymous

This is so cool, Ben! I’m going to watch this one with my MOTHER! She loves John Dickerson. Thanks for bringing boomers, CBS, millennials, and video games together. There is an intersection for everything. ❤️

Anonymous

Listened to Slate Political Gabfest forever. This is great Ben

Anonymous

Ben, thank you for this! Your interviewing skills are top notch. We all appreciate how you make interviews seem like such a genuine conversation between friends. Keep it up!

John Ford

❤ this