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Submit Your Thoughts On The Thing For The Deepest Dive! (Patreon)

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2020-10-26 16:24:33
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2020-10-26 19:15:31
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This is it, folks. The big one. This week we're talking John Carpenter's The Thing from 1982 and we need your comments to fuel our discussion! Because we're continuing to grow, please keep your one comment to around the length of a tweet. We want to get to as many comments as possible. We hope you understand.

Please submit a comment below with your specific thoughts on the film. Please don't just leave a long review, get specific. Let's talk about your favorite moment, theory, dog, or thing, please get specific. The more specific you are, the higher the odds of us reading your comment during the discussion. We'll finish collecting comments on Tuesday morning.

Next week we'll be looking for your thoughts on... the video game (2002), tabletop game, prequel film (2011), and anything else we missed. Watching a Let's Play for the first two is totally fine, but obviously we'd love to hear some first-hand accounts.

You can watch us record The Deepest Dive live on Tuesday at 5pm Central if you're at the $10 Backstage Pass tier on Patreon. The link will be in the Backstage Pass tier on the Discord. Thanks for your support!

You can watch the video version of our first discussion right here - https://youtu.be/pAREvjmiCqg

Comments

Anonymous

2 specific things 1) Can a dog win best actor? knowing it's the thing makes every action so much more meaningful. I'm dead serious when I say that I don't think a human could have given a performance as good. 2) I really like how there a couple scenes that are essentially mini versions of the movie. Like when the dog-thing is trapped in the kennel with the other dogs, and during the blood test scene, there are humans literally tied up to the Thing. It's identical to a zoomed out version of the plot. they're trapped on the base with the Thing.

Anonymous

There's obviously a lot of great stuff in this movie. But the scene lighting in this movie truly blew me away. The deep purples and magentas every time the flares go off. The drab beige of the inside of the base. The deep blue beacons that light up the cold snowfields. The orange darkness when MacReady and Childs are sitting by the burning base at the end. Just look at the scene when MacReady gets back in from the snow and is threatening to light the dynamite with that crazed look in his eyes - the flare's purple light mixed with pale white snow-covered Kurt Russel makes him look so immediately crazed and zombie-like before he even says a word. I love it.

Anonymous

Kurt Russel pouring his drink into the machine after he is bested by the Chess Master computer is such a brilliant setup for his character. And a perfect foreshadowing for him blowing up the entire base when The Thing bests him later in the movie. It shows he is a level headed guy, smart and rational, but he knows when he's been beaten, and will flip the game board when he knows he's lost. Brilliant. Also, that blob of green puss that pops out of Norris's neck when he Thingifies and his head rips off his own body is the greatest detail I've seen in a movie in a while.

Anonymous
>>46565014

Forgot about the drink pour after everything lol such a great touch to his character I agree. And insightful on the foreshadowing. 🤘🏼

Anonymous

The Norris head animating, and Palmer's line "You've got to be fucking kidding me" is a great touch. It mirrors the audiences likely reaction. Even greater still that Palmer is likely infected at this time. The ending. I believe Childs is infected. Childs was falling asleep when Macready walks in on him. There is also a shot showing the room that Childs has left, and the coats have been rearranged. with the theory that the thing destroys clothes, its likely that the thing had to put on a new coat to venture out. He also fails Macready's test of accepting food/drink from another person. What do you think?

Joe Dean

Hello fellow hugh-mans, Obligatory "incredible practical effects comment." Now when MacReady goes to talk to Blair about if he's seen Fuchs we see a noose in the tool shed with Blair. I believe Blair's The Thing at that point, so do you think the real Blair made the noose to kill himself, but got taken by The Thing before he could? Or is it a ploy by The Thing to convince them to let him in? I'm not sus, Joe Dean

Anonymous

Hello Chess Wizard Loving Cohort, I thought it was a very smart choice to have the main charcters not be the ones to uncover the ship and alien in this version. It speeds the plot along to the action faster and makes for a great intro with the norwegians trying to kill the dog. Also is it just me or is it weird that this movie has a charcter named Mac and a charcter named Windows a decade before personal home computers? Byyyyyyyeeeee.

Patrick Polk

I really enjoyed rewatching The Thing, and the aspect that I appreciated most was the clever way it reframed the story as a reaction to the aftermath of the attack on the Norwegian camp, rather than originating with the main characters. It got the plot moving much more quickly than the (excellent) short story. Also, you know it is a pretty dark movie when the most optimistic interpretation of the ending is that the last two human characters freeze to death in Antarctica. Finally and most importantly, why are two of the most revered horror stories/movies generically titled "It" and "The Thing"? I'm going to make a fortune with my horror spec script called "Stuff."

Anonymous
>>46574374

I've never seen it, but there's already a horror movie called "The Stuff."

Anonymous
>>46569295

Also fits with the talk of him being better now last time they check on him

Patrick Polk
>>46574374

Dang it! And I know "The Blob" is taken. Uhh. "The Vagueness"? "Non-Self"?

Anonymous

Annoyed at the ending of "Who Goes There" with a nuclear jump pack, I completely forgot that, in the movie, the Blair-thing is building a ship in the basement of his shack. I love that Carpenter took that aspect from the book and made it more grounded. Also, that dogs acting is chilling, calculated, suspicious and downright unnerving!

Anonymous

Do you ever worry this was based on a true story?

Anonymous

Two quick things right off the bat: 1. Patreon comments fucking suck and this is the second deepest dive where it has somehow deleted my comment after I refreshed the page. 2. The film holds up incredibly well. I hadn't watched it the full way through in years but the ensemble cast, the visual fx, the screenplay and how it sprinkles so many moments of doubt throughout (ie. characters disappearing off-screen for just long enought to appear suspiciou). It stumbles a bit at the climax but more than makes up for it with the legendary ending. Anyway my main comment: I love, love, LOVE the setup of having Childs and Garry tied to the same bench as the the Thing as it transforms. It is absolute peak genre movie goodness and a perfect example of how Carpenter just "gets it". It has you screaming, laughing, and wincing all at once. And it's the type of scene that you just know absolutely kills in a packed cinema. Also what are your top John Carpenter movies. For a while I actually considered The Thing really good but a tad overrated, although after this rewatch I think it could be up at the top 1. The Thing 2. Big Trouble 3. They Live 4. The Fog (super underrated) 5. In The Mouth of Madness 6. Prince of Darkness 7. Escape from NY I did like Escape from NY, it just didn't click with me as much as I thought it would. Still have a fair few to watch and I didn't list Halloween because it's been so long since I've watched it that it would be pointless

Anonymous

Having this be my first time watching The Thing I didn't know much about this movie besides the basic premise. I didn't think a classic looking UFO would be the first thing you see. Caught me really by surprise for some reason. And then we get to the scene with the dog running from the helicopter. Watching with some other friends who haven't seen the film we thought it would be funny if they were actually hunting the dog. Imagine our surprise to them cutting back to the helicopter and the guy has a gun now and is taking pot shots at the dog. We all just assumed they were just following the dog or were gonna capture it. We're not even 5 mins in and this movie has gotten me twice.

Anonymous

Mcready is totally a thing right? The biggest tell for me is he specifically lets the dudes head crawl out of sight before letting the guys in to flame the body. This lets it sprout legs and scuttle away giving mcready the idea for the test. He used the other thing as a setup to appear more human. I don’t remember seeing mcready put his own blood on a dish and chiles calls him out when he passes. There’s also something to be said about the alcohol. Mcready is drinking it all the time. He gives it to Blair after taking a swig who becomes a thing. Chiles at the end is drinking. He’s either a thing who got the taste for it or is an easy way for mcready to turn him with backwash?

Anonymous
>>46596897

FWIW Mac does give himself the test, saying "I'll show you what I already know."

Anonymous
>>46596897

He gives himself the test. But doesn’t show where his blood came from. Don’t remember seeing him cut his own thumb. Also what a terrible way to cut your hand. Right on the joystick spot!