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WORST DÈÄTH YET | STORY TIME #45 (Patreon)

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2017-06-11 00:13:21
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2017-06-15 07:50:04
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WORST DÈÄTH YET | STORY TIME #45

Let's talk about belief, what it means, what it does and how to handle it responsibly. www.playstarbound.com Want to support me? Support me on Patron! https://www.patreon.com/RantingGryphon

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Skyfox

[Please let me know if you find it annoying that I post both here and on the YT page for this video.] On the topic of belief, I have to slightly disagree with your usage of some terms which require clarification. Atheism is simply the opposite of theism; the prefix a- meaning not or the opposite of something, and -theism. Theism is the belief in a god (or gods, in the case of polytheism), so atheism by definition is the lack of belief, or nonbelief, in any gods. Atheism deals exclusively with this matter of belief in a deity and has nothing to do with belief in anything else, whether that belief is in the world being here tomorrow, or Santa Claus, or bigfoot. Second, there's a difference between faith and belief in that faith is belief in something despite the absence of evidence for the truth, validity, or existence of that thing. Faith is what makes a person's reason and rationale go out the window. And there's a difference between faith in something, and confidence or assurance in something (which you referred to as reasoned belief, which is a good way to put it). It's not faith that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow, but as you said it's confidence and assurance based on the fact that has happened every previous day ever since the earliest recorded history, as well as based on the knowledge and demonstrated facts of the solar system, planets, sun, etc. Since these are separate matters, it doesn't matter if a person is an atheist; they can still believe the Earth will be hear tomorrow because that's how it is every day of our existence. Perhaps some day the Earth won't be here or the sun won't rise due to some astronomical cataclysm, but that won't be due to a belief being wrong and wouldn't make those confident beliefs wrong. The flat-Earthers are nuts! For any particular individual I can't tell if they truly believe the Earth is flat, and reject and refuse to believe all opposing information as conspiracy; or if they don't actually believe it and are just being contrary in order to get attention and make people flip their shit that someone could be so obstinate. It's strange how a person who has a negative belief about someone based on bad evidence, testimony, etc. from some other source has such a difficult time shaking that belief. It takes a conscious effort to be aware of it and to feel the empathy towards someone else (the subject of that negative belief) to step back and realize oneself could just as easily be judged badly based on someone else's biased feelings, and/or has been a victim of that in the past. I'm not innocent of that fact either. At work a couple times a new hire was previously known by a coworker who used to work with that person at a previous job, and hated that person who just got hired. That set the stage for me to have negative feelings towards that person when I never had any interaction before. It took some conscious effort to realize my feelings of hate were based on someone else's feelings of hate, and stop myself from doing that and give the person a chance. In most cases the person in question turned out to be perfectly fine and friendly, although one turned out to be kind of a douche who's stuck on himself but certainly not hate-worthy. As a kid in school I was a victim of that, being hated by someone just because they were friends with someone else who hated me, so they all treated me like shit. Being aware of that helped me put myself in that person's shoes at work and understand that it's wrong to feel that way about someone for no reason. For someone to continue hating you based on what they've convinced themselves to believe is prejudice, bigotry, and willful ignorance. It's no different than a white racist hating people because of brown skin, or a corn-fed 'Murican hating the French because of whatever stereotype they think is true, or a fundamentalist hating gay people or even people they just assume are probably gay based on how they dress, act, talk, etc. Try as you might to convince the person otherwise, eventually you just have to say, "Ok, whatever. Believe what you want." What is this overarching moral figure you speak of that religious people follow? Surely you couldn't be talking about their deity. Take the judeo-christian god for example. There is some major fucked up shit in the bible that he does, sanctions, or commands people to do such as having his chosen people slaughter everyone in a village except for the preteen virgin girls who they get to keep for sex slaves, or the rule that disobedient children must be brought to the center of town and stoned to death, or when a man suspects his wife of having sex with another man, he and the head priest force her to drink something that will induce an abortion and leave her barren if she is in fact pregnant, or the supposed flood that kills every living thing on the planet no matter what species and no matter how young and/or innocent. When the followers of a religion look to their god to say what's right and wrong, and their god by definition is perfect and therefore everything he does is morally right and good no matter how barbaric of an atrocity it is to the objective observer, then that leaves things wide open for the faithful of that religion to change what they declare to be right and wrong on a whim. There are a few message in the bible that are morally good such as love thy neighbor, do unto others, etc., but those are lessons that don't require a deity or a religion to make them valid (and many of them predate the bible by many centuries). Questioning my beliefs is something I do all the time. It was through questioning my beliefs that I rid myself of religious belief. It's been nearly 30 years ago (and beginning around 12 the process took about 3 years from start to finish) so my memory is fuzzy, but the basic story is that my beliefs and religious beliefs in general, and the stories of the bible, didn't make any sense. Also, I felt like religious belief was more like a fad, a trend that everyone around me was doing and that for me to believe as well was like jumping on the bandwagon even if I had no compelling desire to. I was never one for following fads so I started pushing back from it. By the age of 15 I simply couldn't believe in any of it any more and was tired of trying to convince myself and others that I believed, so I dropped out of confirmation. My parents still forced me to go to church every Sunday, and by 17 I was so sick of pretending I believed in any of it I put my foot down and refused to go any more. They finally relented and I never looked back. (Plus it was rather hypocritical because my dad wasn't religious and stayed home to sleep in every Sunday, so for him to use hostility to force me to go just to make Mom happy was being a hypocrite.) Losing my religious belief had the same feelings and sentiments like losing my belief in Santa or the Easter Bunny, but it took quite a bit longer due to being indoctrinated from the earliest age with being put through catholic school and attending mass twice a week. Anyway, this has been a really long comment for the video, but this is kind of an important topic to me.

Robert Seth

I was raised to judge a person by who they themselves are and not by what you hear. For me, I've had people judge me for what they heard and few who have came up and say " hey, we want to know what your story is?" Now a days it's easier to judge others on hearsay because it's just that easier. To stand up and say otherwise tends to either get you ostracized at best or attacked at worst. It easy to be a victim these days because that's what gets the most and easiest attention. Working for what you want is to hard and in my opinion I think we're forgetting that life is hard and if you want something bad enough, you fight for it. I've heard all the nasty things said about you and watched your videos and from what little I've talked to you, you seem like a good person. You remind me of George Carlin which was one of my favorite comedians growing up. Yes, some of things you say tens to be rough or crude but if you don't like it then turn it to something else or just ignore it. 2 you are an awesome person and if people want to judge you on what they heard then forget them. As to faith and or beliefe...i think they should be questioned but in a positive manor. If we believed in something and not question it then there would be no growth. Keeps things fresh and new. Also I'm loving the tee shirt.