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Road To Kingdom Ep. 4 (Patreon)

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Iris

I’ve never clicked so fast the way I just did ....

CRAYON weiwen

nice shirt, like a gangster boss xD

Vika~

Just finished your reaction to ep3 and you uploaded ep4 . Today is a good day, thank you :D

Thilde

Pretty much agree with your ranking. I appreciate what Pentagon did a lot as well but performance wise I think them being last makes sense. Oneus are always 100% in their element when performing LIT and they absolutely killed it. As for The Boyz, yea it goes without saying they should be #1. I think my mouth was open for atleast half of the performance the first time I saw it

Alice Owi

oneus only one part got change is Seoho add rapping because that time his ankle injury So they give him part of rapping 😊😊😊

Thilde
>>38986650

They also changed when in the song Leedo and Ravn's rap took place

Min Turtle

This was my favourite episode and I agree w your ranking (and I maybe because I'm Oneus bias). The Boyz as 1st place, no doubt. But Oneus as 2nd? An intellectual!! And yeah you kinda said its bias cause the song is already perfect but like what are we gonna do bout it hehehe~ Anyw I enjoyed your reactions and analysis PD!! I also enjoyed how much you enjoyed watching Oneus~~

Anonymous

1. The Boyz, 2. ONF, 3. Oneus, 4. Golden Child, 5. TOO, 6. Verivery, 7. Pentagon. Been waiting for your reaction PD. Enjoyed it as usual

BaoziBang

"Wyatt isn't the best dancer"... Wyatt is the Main Dancer.

João Ferreira (edited)

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2021-07-18 05:33:09 i almost agree with your ranking. heres mine: The Boyz > TOO > Oneus > ONF > Golden Child > Pentagon > Very Very
2020-06-21 00:34:51 i almost agree with your ranking. heres mine: The Boyz > TOO > Oneus > ONF > Golden Child > Pentagon > Very Very

i almost agree with your ranking. heres mine: The Boyz > TOO > Oneus > ONF > Golden Child > Pentagon > Very Very

Thilde
>>38987907

I think PD meant that ONF as a whole aren't known for strong dancing but maybe i misunderstood

rockthekazb0t

Btw, TOO's Chan ISN'T the leader, though you would have NO idea, given how much screen time they gave him throughout the entire show 😅😅😅 (Jaeyun is actually the Leader. Who? Yeah exactly, MNet.. 😒)

Thilde
>>38987907

I wasn't saying they weren't, I was just saying I think that's what PD meant

BaoziBang
>>38987907

I don't want to argue with you but no matter how I form this sentence I still have the feeling it sounds bitchy... What you wrote sounds kind of like ONF aren't known for Performance. Which is the Reason I wrote they are and linked one of their Dance Compilations. Mostly for People that see our Conversation and don't know ONF well and want to look further into them. They do have a Vocal and Performance Team. That's mostly what I meant.

BaoziBang

I literally had to look up TOO's Leader because it took me 5 Episodes to realize it isn't Chan.

Anonymous
>>38988230

Not gonna lie, the only names I learnt from MNet was Chan and J.You and learnt the faces of the 19 year old dancer and the maknae. Apart from that, they did a crap job of letting us get to know the group

rockthekazb0t
>>38988230

Yeah, seriously. Considering the whole point of MNet adding TOO to the lineup is for people to get to know the *group*

BaoziBang

TOO... I learned Chan, Woongi, J.You... Kyungho and Chihoon... Maybe? If the last 2 are correct.

Hana

Wyatt is actually one of ONF’s main dancers along with U and J-us they are really amazing in off team dance videos but I feel like the camera work didn’t do the choreography any justice

Chloe Borley-Evans

I feel kind of bad for Jaeyun seeings as I'm pretty sure everyone who got into TOO through RTK thought Chan was the leader (myself included) and as someone said before Mnet did a shit job as usual to expose lots of the other members. I really enjoyed this episode and all the performances! My ranking was 1. The Boyz 2. Golden Child 3. TOO 4. ONF 5. Oneus 6. Verivery 7. Pentagon. I'm really looking forward to the rest of your reactions :)

Hana
>>38988820

ONF’s dancing is generally what gets slept on the most : https://youtu.be/KSKIV8ksHGE

formoftherapy
>>38988820

It must be the camera work then! Cus visually it didn’t look good as previous performances!

Hana
>>38988820

Yeah, I actually felt the same way when I first watched it, thank you for the reactions to RTK

Réka O.

I completely understand why you ranked them the way you did and how you were trying to judge them objectively. I, however, cannot disregard the emotional element because the emotion behind it is such a huge part of any performance. No other group's perfomance moved me this much so Pentagon ranks high for me. My ranking is: 1. The Boyz 2. Oneus 3. Pentagon 4. ONF 5. TOO 6. Verivery 7. Golden Child. I love both Verivery and Golden Child, but their performances from week to week failed to make a lasting impression on me, unfortunately. I haven't watched the newer episodes yet because I always wait for your commentary to come out, but I hope it's one of these two groups that gets eliminated. I seriously hate that they're doing eliminations on this show though, I wish it was more like Queendom.

Doyoungismyult

I appreciate you writing things down about the performance but I kind of wish you wrote them down after watching them and not during the actual performance because you keep missing key points of the performance because you head is down. Like Seoho rapping in Lit and almost missing the violin solo start in wannabe

Doyoungismyult

Also seems like you missed the part in Veriverys performance when he twisted his neck and it sounded like bones cracking and everyone freaked out but you had no expression because I think you were writing something lol

Malaki.H

Lol my ranking was exactly the same as yours!!!

Vairani Harapoi

PD i love you but.. about veriery's performance you said that nothing really stood out from the performance in the middle howeveryou were not watching it everytime there was something hella interesting and adding to the nightmare feel. I was even frustrated because you spend almost the whole performance taking notes i think that is why you don't remmeber the middle of the performance which made me sad because i was really looking forward to your reaction to their performance

Alexa

My personal rank: 1.The Boyz 2.Golden Child 3.Oneus 4.ONF 5.Pentagon 6.Verivery 7.Too

Carly Pearl

I feel that I can’t but my bias aside for Pentagon because watching that performance made me so emotional. I love how supportive all the groups are of each other and Jangjun holding up his phone with the team names was adorable. One thing that will probably be controversial to say is that while the boyz performances are amazing, they have a huge amount of resources from their company. We do see members contributing but I feel like a lot of the performances are not actually made by the group. Pentgon and TOO seem to be the groups that always have taken creative control over their peformances. So my rankings would be 1) Pentagon (Yes I am well aware that I’m being Universe biased, but so many feels/ emotions) 2) Oneus (I loved the energy and all the traditional elements 3)Golden Child (that violin solo) 4) TOO (Chan’s ideas and acting made this a phenomenal performance) 5)The Boyz (I feel like the performance was almost too good) 6) Verivery (They made pretty good use of the bed, my fav moment being when they made it look like a member was being sucked into it 7) ONF (Kind sick of hearing this song and they barely mixed the other song it sounded like, amazing vocals though) *I have watched all the episodes and the finale,*

Mando Vega (edited)

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2021-07-18 05:33:04 Idk if you knew but the main vocal of ONEUS, Seoho, was injured during LIT and couldn’t dance the whole time but instead of keeping him out, they gave THE MAIN VOCAL A FCKN RAP (& i know some people hate when companies give singers a rap or vice versa, but man does seoho just hit 😂). Since it’s on Spotify I find myself playing it a lot lmao. Also, when Lee Do said “도사는 무엇이냐” I felt that. 😌💅
2020-06-21 07:17:03 Idk if you knew but the main vocal of ONEUS, Seoho, was injured during LIT and couldn’t dance the whole time but instead of keeping him out, they gave THE MAIN VOCAL A FCKN RAP (& i know some people hate when companies give singers a rap or vice versa, but man does seoho just hit 😂). Since it’s on Spotify I find myself playing it a lot lmao. Also, when Lee Do said “도사는 무엇이냐” I felt that. 😌💅

Idk if you knew but the main vocal of ONEUS, Seoho, was injured during LIT and couldn’t dance the whole time but instead of keeping him out, they gave THE MAIN VOCAL A FCKN RAP (& i know some people hate when companies give singers a rap or vice versa, but man does seoho just hit 😂). Since it’s on Spotify I find myself playing it a lot lmao. Also, when Lee Do said “도사는 무엇이냐” I felt that. 😌💅

Erica

1. The Boyz: Performance-wise they are really unbeatable in this episode, which reminds me of what you said during the 90s performance, their performance is SO good and outstanding that even if they are probably not exactly hitting the concept (like showing your own color) but it doesn't seem to be matter anymore 2. Oneus: Personally I think this is the group that is the most successful in balancing out the vocal and performance in this round 3. ONF: Agree with the part of the strongest vocal. In terms of performance/ dancing, I don't really understand what you mean by "not clean enough". I have watched the video by dreamcatcher that you recommend, but for me the nature of these 2 songs are different, I think ONF is doing amazing in coupling strength and gentleness in this performance 4. Golden Child: Also doing a good job in terms of vocal and performance, but personally still feel like something is missing compared with the top 3 5. Verivery: Really like the performance and the concept/ storyline, it really gives me chill while watching it. And i think they really put a lot of efforts in the choreography details 6. TOO: Personally not the biggest fan of the good v.s evil concept (a bit cliche to be honest... and plus wasn't Goldenchild just did something similar in the last round?) 7. Pentagon: Like what the member said the meaning of this performance is beyond the competition itself, I also feel very emotional and touched by the message they try to deliver. However at the end of the day this is still a competition, regarding the execution in the second half of the performance is indeed not as completed as other groups (but seriously i was amazed by Jinho's vocal even when he was crying)

Cristina Doncel

Curiosities of the presentation of The boyz!! They used the concept of revolution, that is why they have pins inspired by The Hunger Games (Catching fire), and others designed by Kevin with that aesthetic, they also refer to the French revolution with the blue and red flags, as well as the painting. In chronological order, the first to appear with the crown is Q and when he loses it and the camera focuses on the wine glasses, you can see that in these, in white, is the scene of him kneeling. Later on, in Eric's part, he throws himself backwards and nobody catches him, he just rolls out of the stage so the camera didn't catch him, just WOW. The members who have fear of heights, Sunwoo and Hyunjae, did the stunt where the dancers raise them. Q set fire to a special paper in Hyunjae's hand (he has a glove on), to provoke the flare. Kevin didn't dance in the final part because he was injured.

Sakura

J.YOU is actually walking with his eyes closed in the middle of the chaos because justice is blind. They worked so hard for the performance. I didn't know them before RTK but now I know they are monster rookies!

formoftherapy
>>38994049

I was still watching it via my peripheral vision. I rewatch all the performances again on YT (cus the whole episode quality is so low) and I still stand by it. It’s good but it just wasn’t enough for me.

formoftherapy
>>38991990

I didn’t miss any of it, I just have no idea who Seoho is. The rap sounded like it was out of place but I just thought “eh I must just not be remembering it right”. I still watch everything from my peripherals

formoftherapy
>>38991990

For reference, i only know two members name in ONEUS: Ravn and LEEDO. Then there’s the cute guy with the eyes; Han something? Hanging or something like that. His name is uncommon so it’s hard to remember so I just remember him as the cute guy with the eyes. Then there’s the adorable guy who sounds like he has braces, which I think is the twin of the ONEWE member?? And then I don’t know the rest.

Sakura
>>39008287

Also, the fact that they bow to justice and no one wins because the balance stays "balanced" is *chef kiss*

Sher

I thought all of the concepts were quite strong this episode! I always watched the performances on their own first, and I had a good sense of what they all were without context. Overall, TBZ and Oneus were the standouts from this round for me. I'm really proud of Oneus - they absolutely crushed it. And I was totally shook by Seoho rapping, ngl. I actually quite enjoyed VeriVery, partly because it was unexpected (the creepy, dark approach AND the song choice) and because there were some really cool elements to it, even if it wasn't a perfect performance. I do think their relative greenness shows, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how they grow from here.

Kate M

I highly recommend watching this dance practice for Reveal. It really shows how much work went into perfecting that performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XqUob_w1o

Kpop_Platypus (edited)

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2021-07-18 05:33:01 Well since you asked...my personal FAVORITE performance was Oneus. As you said, the original song is fantastic, & they found a way to take it to another level without losing the original vibe. That said, I'd still give TBZ 1st, because conceptually they were phenomenal. I'd give 3rd to ONF because that was a gorgeous performance. 4th for me is PTG. Jinho's my bias and even if I COULD take the emotional aspect out of the equation, I actually don't think one should. It's just two different types of impact, emotional vs. visual, & they're both valid. I'd put TOO in 5th and Golcha in 6th, because while their performances were creative & impressive, they personally didn't resonate with me as much as the others. That leaves VV in 7th. I agree with PD that they had a couple of highlights, but as a Starlight (aka a connoisseur of dark, abstract concepts 😁) the performance wasn't super memorable overall. Though I do think it's fine that people didn't realize til the end that it was all a dream; that's what you call a twist ending! I recommend going to YouTube to watch the full versions of the performances w/o the reactions to fully appreciate them & catch anything you missed while writing notes. See you in the next episode!!
2020-06-21 22:04:24 Well since you asked...my personal FAVORITE performance was Oneus. As you said, the original song is fantastic, & they found a way to take it to another level without losing the original vibe. That said, I'd still give TBZ 1st, because conceptually they were phenomenal. I'd give 3rd to ONF because that was a gorgeous performance. 4th for me is PTG. Jinho's my bias and even if I COULD take the emotional aspect out of the equation, I actually don't think one should. It's just two different types of impact, emotional vs. visual, & they're both valid. I'd put TOO in 5th and Golcha in 6th, because while their performances were creative & impressive, they personally didn't resonate with me as much as the others. That leaves VV in 7th. I agree with PD that they had a couple of highlights, but as a Starlight (aka a connoisseur of dark, abstract concepts 😁) the performance wasn't super memorable overall. Though I do think it's fine that people didn't realize til the end that it was all a dream; that's what you call a twist ending! I recommend going to YouTube to watch the full versions of the performances w/o the reactions to fully appreciate them & catch anything you missed while writing notes. See you in the next episode!!

Well since you asked...my personal FAVORITE performance was Oneus. As you said, the original song is fantastic, & they found a way to take it to another level without losing the original vibe. That said, I'd still give TBZ 1st, because conceptually they were phenomenal. I'd give 3rd to ONF because that was a gorgeous performance. 4th for me is PTG. Jinho's my bias and even if I COULD take the emotional aspect out of the equation, I actually don't think one should. It's just two different types of impact, emotional vs. visual, & they're both valid. I'd put TOO in 5th and Golcha in 6th, because while their performances were creative & impressive, they personally didn't resonate with me as much as the others. That leaves VV in 7th. I agree with PD that they had a couple of highlights, but as a Starlight (aka a connoisseur of dark, abstract concepts 😁) the performance wasn't super memorable overall. Though I do think it's fine that people didn't realize til the end that it was all a dream; that's what you call a twist ending! I recommend going to YouTube to watch the full versions of the performances w/o the reactions to fully appreciate them & catch anything you missed while writing notes. See you in the next episode!!

maddie369

Just a warning, but it seems like a lots of the groups from the finale (won't spoil which groups they are haha) might be releasing some sort of performance mv or comeback mv so I'd hold off on watching those if you don't wanna spoil the finale! Also, my personal opinion but I would also hold off on listening to any of the finale songs before watching the performances. While I am guilty of listening to them lol I wished I hadn't cuz it would've made the impact of the performances so much more (not that they weren't amazing already but it would've kept more of a surprise element). Can't wait to see in the next episodes!

Legacy

Personally, I'd say... 1.The Boyz 2.Golden Child 3.ONF 4.TOO 5.OneUS 6. Verivery 7. Pentagon

Ally Gichan

1- tbz (I think they just put the standards of this show at this point) 2- onf(I really like the vocals and arrangement I think what made the stage abit messy is the camera work and they usage of stage) 3- veriery (I think what they lack is stage presence which I feel like they might get with experience like I want to see them perform this in like 2 or 3 years) 4- TOO ( I liked the story it was clear and delievered eventho I feel like it got messy at some points but for a rookie group its perfect) 5- golden child (their performance seems easy and lowkey but I think it had alot of effort in it that it looked so elegant,, it'd have gone so wrong if they couldnt nail the classy concept but again its a competition so I needed more) 6- Oneus ( oneus are really talented but my problem is the dancer do more of whats happening on stage than the members themselves r1 and r2 here too so its a shame) 7- pentagon idt pentagon are 7th but I dont want to rank their performance because it wont be fair since its more of a pentagon thing but I respect that

Alice in Neocity
>>39367171

I completely I agree with your ranking! I had the exact same ranking when I first watched the show!

Alice in Neocity
>>39367171

I feel like ONEUS is depending too much on their backup dancers to make a spectacular stage. I feel like if you remove the backup dancers the performance is nothing special and I felt like a lot of their moves felt awkward.

Alice in Neocity
>>39367171

Like they did the same thing during their first stage: their backup dancers did the majority of the stunts ... I love ONEUS' music but I felt somewhat disappointed in them while watching the show...

Marcela Pereira
>>38999209

I was wondering all this time if that's why he wasn't all that present during the choreo and overall episode! Thank you, now I know lol

Nicolette Starliight

My \2nd Round ranks : 1st The Boyz [still can't believe what they did] 2nd ONF [*chef kiss*] 3rd Oneus [It was literally their Lit Mv coming alive it was so amazing] 4th Golden Child [I was honestly very mad when I first found out golcha would be getting eliminated but watching this a second time through I understand more why from an unbiased prespective} 5th TOO 6th Verivery 7th Pentagon [ngl I cried so much the first time I watched this]

Ulani Barr

My rankings for this round were: 1st The Boyz- they are unrivaled at this point in terms of stage usage as well as concept and stunts, I love reveal and I love every choice of choreo that was made; 2nd Verivery- I was blown away by them being able to do such a dark concept and I absolutely love Photo, they conveyed the concept well imo and it was so creepy and dark, I loved that they did something so different than everyone else and I think they pulled it off (love their dance style as well); 3rd Golden Child- it was classy and elegant and I absolutely loved the orchestral sounds and vibe, Juchan's violin solo paired with the dance portion around him was just captivating, and I loved the take they had on it. The dance break was good, and I loved the intro choreo as well; 4th Oneus- I feel bad because they did amazing and it was a great stage, I loved the way the other groups arranged their songs a little differently and although I love Lit as is I think they could have incorporated something else. Leedo's intro was really great and I also loved how they all had individual portions although I felt like I didn't see much of Seoho, it was good and fun but I feel like it wasn't as technical and that they didn't go as far as some of the other groups; 5th ONF- The arrangement was incredible but I would agree in saying that some of the choreo was a little messy and they definitely did not choose harder or more technical moves than the other groups did. The concept was good, but I felt like they could also have taken it further; 6th TOO- They did really well, for a rookie group some of them are really good at facials (esp Chan) and the concept was really interesting and pulled off well but it doesn't feel as memorable as some of the others imo, I mean some of it is because they're a rookie but it wasn't my favourite performance; 7th Pentagon- I'm sure a lot of people agree. it was really emotional and I did cry along with the boys but compared to everyone else it wasn't really a competiton piece and that's not what they were going for. It was not theatrical or technical and the choreo was basic, I did like how they incorporated the suitcases though. So far Pentagon's performances missed the mark for me but I feel better knowing that this wasn't meant to win

Ena

My second round rankings have to be 1. The Boyz- not much to say they're literally unrivalled when it comes to putting on a performance. 2. Golcha- I lived the vibe they have been going for with more elegant concepts I think the violin solo was beautiful and capturing even if the performance wasn't as hype as the others. 3. TOO- they really do not seem like rookies on the stage, the idea of good vs evil was already interesting but adding the balance in between both was such a good idea, even if they messed up that one part pulling chan back I don't think it offput the performance at all I wouldn't have noticed if they hadn't shown them practising the actual move before. 4. Verivery- this concept of nightmares was also good and they really have a talent for dancing but I agree with it being kind of confusing until the end when ppl started realizing it was about nightmares. it just seemed like a dark horror concept much like how idle did in queendom. 5. Oneus- For me personally I think they didn't choose the right song, while lit IS the perfect wow factor song they had I think there isn't really anything to add on to it like the other groups had done. 6. ONF- I think they were really relying on the fact that Yooa was a part of it and didn't try to show off anything else and while the concept was cool, I do think it was kind of messy. 7. Pentagon- pentagon in rtk is not doing it for me even if this round they didn't really care for the competition but last round also, maybe because I'm not really bias towards any group and watch the performances like a new fan who hasn't heard or seen anything. I think their confidence and acting is really good though and it definitely has a big role in their stages being good. Overall all the stages were good, none were bad at all, just some was more my liking.

LivKO

I LOVED all of these songs- but Wannabe was the only one I went out of my way to add to playlists etc. I do love strings music- but I ADORE the way the incorporated the strings here

christine cheung (edited)

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2021-07-18 05:32:59 Yup I think I like ONF's performance more because they did things never have done before. My very first impression is of course their make up and costumes, which the sparkles implies tears and the doll-like costumes in RED really stand out. Next, it's the choreo and arrangement. I've never seen that clock choreo and their way to imitate controlled marionette is *chef kiss*. Lastly, vocals and lyrics. They really showed off their vocal ability and deliberately combined ''we must love'' & "Moscow Moscow" because their lyrics are inter-related omg. As a whole, the performance is very cohesive, and Yooa acted as an important linkage of the story too.
2020-09-01 14:03:55 Yup I think I like ONF's performance more because they did things never have done before. My very first impression is of course their make up and costumes, which the sparkles implies tears and the doll-like costumes in RED really stand out. Next, it's the choreo and arrangement. I've never seen that clock choreo and their way to imitate controlled marionette is *chef kiss*. Lastly, vocals and lyrics. They really showed off their vocal ability and deliberately combined ''we must love'' & "Moscow Moscow" because their lyrics are inter-related omg. As a whole, the performance is very cohesive, and Yooa acted as an important linkage of the story too.

Yup I think I like ONF's performance more because they did things never have done before. My very first impression is of course their make up and costumes, which the sparkles implies tears and the doll-like costumes in RED really stand out. Next, it's the choreo and arrangement. I've never seen that clock choreo and their way to imitate controlled marionette is *chef kiss*. Lastly, vocals and lyrics. They really showed off their vocal ability and deliberately combined ''we must love'' & "Moscow Moscow" because their lyrics are inter-related omg. As a whole, the performance is very cohesive, and Yooa acted as an important linkage of the story too.

Aquarium Ghostsong
>>38999209

Also late but for reference, Seoho actually trained to be a rapper and that was the position he originally wanted so it's not like he never had any experience/it was just given to him. It was nice to see him still be apart of the performance and to showcase a skill not many fans know him for since his rapping days are only really in super early RWB boyz years (like 2017/early 2018).

Mando Vega
>>38999209

Yeah I guess I kind of forgot because he’s been going insane on vocals since debut lol. my point was just to bring out the fact that the company still found a way to incorporate him even when he was injured, huge props. Plus the rap was just 🔥🔥

tev

i know this is super late, but i strongly disagree with your assessment of vrvr here. there were several parts of the choreo that were really creative imo. for example, there’s a part where they kinda drag a member’s head through another member’s arms, and it resembles the button you find in the settings of your phone. it’s subtle, but it’s creative as hell and ties very well into their photo concept and can be related back to tagx3. the part where most of them are on the bed and looking straight ahead resembles a family photo, so the ghost moving between them suggests a haunting. also very creative. i just don’t think creativity has to be big and flashy, it can be subtle like this too. photo is my favourite rtk stage because it has a lot of subtle imagery that isn’t just screaming in your face what’s going on, you actually have to pay attention to it and it gives it so much more rewatch value.

alyah

thank you for this reaction! your rtk reactions is the reason I decided to pay for the patreon :) but I'm excited to watch the other things you have reacted to.