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2021-04-12 15:01:50
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2021-04

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I know it might seem unprofessional to discuss this publicly, but it's no secret that my business has slowed a lot over the last few weeks.  Original art sales, print sales, and Patreon participation have all dropped off at a faster rate than I've seen in a very long time.  I don't have a big artist's ego and I don't get offended easily, so if you think something about my work just isn't looking good lately, I'd really like to hear about it.  The way my brain works, it's almost impossible for me to see my own art the same way other people do.  And please remember that art and fetishism are very subjective from one person to another, so please respect everyone's opinions.  I really need to keep things positive and fun.  I'll start a poll with a few ideas to help get things started.  Public posts and private messages are both appreciated.  Let's go!

Comments

Dave

Artwork has seemed great to me as always. As far as situations, personally I’d say more: Arms behind back+ Shibari or Shackles+ Girl on girl or guy on girl+ Orgasms with eyes closed+ Completely nude Or just more helpless slave scenarios in general : )

Anonymous

I like this poll and agree on the rough times. I think we need some quarantine concepts. That should help us pull through!

Courtney Blush

I wonder if it’s the sheer quantity of work you produce. BDSM is a fairly limited market and if you produce too much then the exclusivity is gone.

Anonymous

Weird, only thing ive noticed is how much better you have gotten at drawing since the early days. However i have noticed there is a "trend" going on in the world where people is canceling theirs subs in general. Like people is cancelling their movie/netflix because there hasnt been produced any big movies the last year. People are canceling Disney plus over Star Wars. People are canceling their game console subs because they cant get their hands on the next gen ps5/xbox & their is no next gen games. PC users isnt buying games because they cant get new graphics cards because of the crypto mining. I guess its just the situation.

Anonymous

Not offensive enough ;-)

Nix001

Possibly time for a minor refresh. I like the artwork but it always seems a little bit tame given the subject matter. I love the ponygirl/boy stuff. Also with 'one-offs' can become hard to keep coming up with fresh ideas. Why not begin some simple storylines say a dozen frames per story in between the singletons? Just a thought.

Anonymous

I really like the confining clothing, bondage, and objectification themes. Lately you've drawn a lot more actual sex. That's not something I'm going to want to hang on my wall.

Anonymous

In general I would say that the chaos of the world has finally crept up to your doorstep. For my part, there are two issues. We all have budgets which limit us, I'm no different and, for me, this is a very expensive time of year. Then there's the sheer tonnage of your work which I already own. Don't get me wrong, when you produce something which strikes a chord with me, I find a way to hollow out space in my budget to afford it. Unfortunately, I'm almost always too late and the piece is already in the hot little hands of someone else by the time I see it. P.S. I know it's extra work, but a little color couldn't hurt.

Raymond Koek

Its a different world at the moment. Your artwork very high standaard. Maybe a idea. You make by every lady a story line what the love to do. So this lady ropes. They are lady love latex. Every new drawing tells something about the ladys life style how she enjoy it. But one thing i can tell you. Love your work 😍😍😍

andysdames
>>57590741

Thanks for the great feedback, Dave! I often worry that I draw the arms behind the back to often, but I guess that's just where we like them kept, don't we?

andysdames
>>57591175

Thanks, Shadna! Glad you liked the poll. I should probably do stuff like this more often.

andysdames
>>57591467

Good thinking, this is something the Mrs. and I have discussed for years. I agree that it could be a problem. Back when I had a day job and did this on the side, I would kind of regulate my output when things slowed down. But then it became my full-time job, and then we moved to an area that's much more expensive, so I'm kind of stuck. The only options I can think of are to increase demand by improving quality and getting more visibility, or diversifying into other subject matter. At least, I think those are the only two options?

andysdames
>>57592601

Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad to hear that you think the new work looks better! I hear what you're saying about people cancelling subscriptions. Way of the world, I suppose. Even "Mrs. Andysdames" has slowed with her Patreon and Kickstarter spending, which have been her two biggest hobbies for a while. And people are cancelling Disney over Star Wars? Yikes!

andysdames
>>57594713

Thanks for the feedback! I do try to make a variety of "harder" and "softer" pieces, though I realize that my "harder" stuff isn't really that hard.

andysdames
>>57596603

Thanks for your input! I've heard several people mention the ponyboys, who sell prints consistently, so I should probably bring them back soon. Longer arcs are something I've considered, but I've been concerned that collectors might be discouraged if I make it too hard to collect an entire sequence. On the other hand, I have thought about drawing more than one angle or variation on a central idea, which I might try at some point. There are also comic pages to consider, which may happen in the future. That's been an on-and-off-again pursuit for quite a while.

andysdames
>>57597659

Great feedback, thanks! I suspect you and I have similar sensibilities when it comes to hanging art. To be honest, my walls have paintings of spaceships on them. It's true that I didn't used to draw many sex scenes, for exactly the reason you described. But, I've been surprised to find that they sell better than I'd expected. What really surprises me is that prints of them have been quite popular, particularly with young women in the Fetlife crowd. Apparently some of those college girls have some carnal interests that they don't mind displaying in their apartments and dormitories. Anyway, I'm with you on the confining clothing, bondage, and objectification- let's get back to some of that!

andysdames
>>57597830

Yeah, I've been concerned that the outside world was going to ring my doorbell and hand me a bill one of these days. As always, thanks for your input! And stay tuned on the color thing. If I can get my head above water again, I've got a couple ideas I want to try before my paints all dry up.

andysdames
>>57604597

Thank you, Raymond! I like your idea. You're right, I haven't though as much lately about the individual interests of each character. Let me think on that a little bit...

Anonymous

There is merit to what everyone has said, I believe, but there is another question that comes to mind. Are you bored with the work?

Nix001
>>57596603

I take your points. Maybe a few more three-frame sequences, a mini-story, beginning middle, and end. Collectible without being exorbitant or flooding your market!

Anonymous

Art is always a very personal thing. And for me, I think that your work hasn't really changed. But I do believe that a lot of people have developed screen fatigue. As well as the ole adage of " I want to see something new". Coupled with the weather now warming up your probably going to see a drop in interest as we all get outside to enjoy the weather.

andysdames
>>57641337

Well, then... we've all got so much invested into the Dames at this point that I can't imagine not drawing them. That being said, though, I do need to get some hot rods, spaceships, and robots in my diet.

andysdames
>>57655687

Man, I hear that! I actually just got in the car and left a few days ago, and found a couple of trivial errands to do a bit further from home. Elbow out the window and some old rock on the radio, it was a pretty good afternoon.

Anonymous
>>57641337

True enough! It’s a good gut check question I often ask myself, most recently with some charcoal pieces I have been working on (and the answer is, I’m getting there). I think you have a healthy amalgam of responses here to work from, while I always like to see rods, robots, and rockets!

Molly Whipple

After reading through the comments here I don't think I have much useful to add. Your artwork has progressed and improved over time, but for me there was always something charming about your style at its most simplistic. Also, I cut against the trend in these comments in that I enjoy the less explicit material, images that perhaps include hosiery or corsets. As for different things you could do I'd love to see you draw a simple catfight scene from time to time for instance. Or perhaps cutesy costume malfunction images like the classic getting caught on a barbed wire fence while trying to slip through it. That sort of thing. But that's just me. I know I don't sell as many comics or get as many hits on deviantart as I used to receive. It all seems to be a function of the ever widening amount of stuff to choose from and people all settling into their own tiny little silo much like society at large. I don't have a solution to that.

Anonymous
>>57597830

Recent examples being "Tammy's Crew at the Stables" and "The Easter Kelsie."

Anonymous

I agree with everyone who says that your art has just gotten better and better. I suppose it's possible that the increased stylization of the "dames" (more doe-like, even in the face) turns some people off a bit, but really there's no artist who conveys that BDSM bliss-out even half as well as you. As you mentioned in reply to an earlier comment, you're kind of forced to glut the market because you've got bills to pay! But maybe the huge amount of work you offer for free on DeviantArt and Twitter could do more to tease rather than satisfy? I'm sure it's next to impossible to get the ideal balance there. One thing I've noticed in my own erotic blog (under a different name) is that almost no supporter lasts forever, at least not without taking a long break or two. Did you happen to get a wave of folks who have now maybe hit that first bout of fatigue?

andysdames
>>57663824

I'm always interested in hearing your thoughts, as you've been with us through a lot of good and bad times over the years. I hear you on the simpler stuff. The Mrs. and I have discussed the fact that we used to do more "cute, simple pin-ups," but economic realities have made it hard to continue with them. That being said, that's another thing I might try once things stabilize a bit, just to see if I have any luck with them since my audience has grown over the years.

andysdames
>>57690127

Thanks for your feedback! I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the work. Yeah, I may just have to try a few new things and see what goes and what doesn't, like I did back when I started. I have wondered about making more of the stuff I post on social media exclusive to Patreon backers, but then, I still have to post it to my store in order to sell it. I have tried cropped images and things like that in the past too, which I might experiment with again, and pull the full images off the store page once they sell. Stuff to think about for sure.

andysdames
>>57641337

Uh, oh... sorry to hear that the charcoal pieces are starting to get stale for you. They've been looking great!

andysdames
>>57641337

Also, I may have to steal your "rods, robots, and rockets" phrase for my clean stuff, if I can ever get it going again. The Mrs. and I have determined that a rebranding will be in order, maybe I'll call it "HotRodRocketBot." Nah, even I'll trip over that trying to say it out loud...

andysdames
>>57597830

Yeah, I wasn't actually sure if the "Tammy's Crew" set was going to be a winner or not. The Easter Kelsie piece turned out to be more popular than I'd expected, so I may try ratcheting back to some simpler concepts and see how they go for a bit.

Anonymous
>>57641337

Thanks! Yeah, I’m changing some things (slightly more abstract compositions, looser handling of the charcoal) to keep the energy going, which has been working. I’ve got another series in mind too that will liven things up some, I think. It’s the subjects I tire of after awhile, though, never the medium...stay tuned!

jcDiD

I feel what a lot of folks like to see is progression in the characters, especially OCs that they don't already have knowledge of (such as fanart of recognizable characters), so more tying picture from one to another to tell a story or make an arc with a particular character/characters may be something you can do again (you have done that before). Just my 2¢

andysdames
>>57768762

Probably a good point! Thanks, JC! I need to sit down and really think up some new material for them, too.

Anonymous

your work is fantastic, and i feel like you're getting a lot in the way of personal special requests from people by opening this vote and subsequent conversation-- which is good! people are invested enough in your art and feel comfortable enough with you to have specific requests about their tastes. as an artist, there's a part of me who envies that/misses that from when i had more relevance. it's a problem you wanna have! but i'm [i can't say happy, but relieved in this context] to see the general mood trending toward everyone just being short on resources and things being chaotic as an explanation for declining sales or interactions. i've hovered over a couple sales on prints and just been like "but ___(insert bill here__) .... awwww damn." i don't care how graphic the work being offered is, if it's a character i like (I LOVE ABBY) or a really awesome, dynamic scene? i'd hang anything of yours on my wall, your action and textures and lighitng are just class and you're a real inspiration.

Anonymous

Nine of the above! If in doubt, make it more explicit!

andysdames
>>58110908

Hah! I hear you, and I'll admit that sometimes I use that strategy. I feel that you can't use it every time, though, or everyone gets numb to it after a while.

andysdames
>>58103629

Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad you enjoy the work, and it's good to know that you like Abby. If you have a link to your own work, go ahead and post it so we can check it out!

andysdames

Thanks for joining us, Fitz! And thanks for the feedback, it's never too late. If you're already drawing, I have no doubt that you'll get where you want to go if you just keep at it. My talent isn't actually for art, it's bull-headed stubbornness. After thirty years of drawing, I'm finally at the level I should've reached after ten. Might as well keep going!