Dieselnoi Discussing the 123 Greatest Fighters of Thailand: A Tour Through History (public, 1 hr, 13 min) (Patreon)

Video above, be sure to turn on English Subtitles. English transcript is also at the bottom of the article. You can watch our Muay Thai Bones podcast here (for free), or listen and download the episodes as a patron here.

There is nothing like this on the internet and, quite frankly, was nothing like it in the world until we filmed it. We publish this kind of historical material for everyone, available to the public, but it is made with patron support. We actually shot this "interview" walk through history 4 years ago and only now have been able to make it publishable; it's so wonderful. This is the "123 All-Time Greatest Fighters of Thailand" book, a collection that spans from Pon, the first Western Boxing Champion, through the Silver and Golden Ages of Muay Thai and into recognizable contemporary names. We sat down with Dieselnoi to have him thumb through and comment on each fighter, as we really only recognized the last maybe 3rd of the fighters and he's from the late Silver Age, early Golden Age, but has references to well before himself. This is oral history, the kind that gets lost. Keep in mind, also, Dieselnoi is being very candid here, talking the way he would talk among friends. If he is dismissive or critical of a fighter or a style, this is just the way he sees things as part of the continual back and forth arguments among fighters of his day. The interview lets us see into the history of Muay Thai like no other. Don't let it jar you, what we in the English language know about Muay Thai fighters is mostly very presented. Thais think and talk about fighters in a very animated and sometimes harsh way. Even good friends are bantered about. One of the beautful things about Diesenoi is how open he is as his heart beats for Muay Thai.

This is the book Dieselnoi is looking at, you can find photographic copies here 

A quick detour: If you happen to not know who Dieselnoi is, he is arguably the King of Muay Khao style (pressure knee fighting) and was undefeated for 4 straight years at Lumpinee Stadium during the most competitive and high level era of Muay Thai. He was 135lb Lumpinee Champion, 1982 Fighter of the Year, and ultimately was forced to retire at a still young age due to lack of opponents. He then became a trainer of 2 of the Golden Age's most accomplished Muay Khao fighters: Panomtuanlek and Chamuakpet Hapalang (both became Fighter of the Year). Dieselnoi is one of the most loved, most feared fighters in Thailand's history and remains a pillar of the Muay Thai community.

It took us a while to do this properly. We wanted to edit in all the photos of profiles so it's easier to follow along even if you don't have the book (just hit pause on the video to see), but also to get it properly translated. My Thai had to improve so I could proof the translation. Dieselnoi's way of speaking is unique and sometimes even Thais don't understand him. With the help of patrons and improvement in my own fluency we've finally been able to publish it how we hoped. 

Kevin and I decided to film a mini Muay Thai Bones type intro to really give context to this documentary, because you have to understand not only what it is but its rarity and impact as well. Dieselnoi is such a remarkable man, such an important figure in Muay Thai, and above all of that his personality, humor, and virtues all come through a lot. There is so much in this interview. Information about great fighters you never heard of, small stories about famous fighters or match ups nobody knows. The way that older fighters of the Golden Age of Muay Thai viewed each other, and different styles, and also fighters of today, and just the energy and passion of Dieselnoi himself.

Thank you to my patrons who make this kind of documentary project possible. If you enjoy interviews with greats you can also check out all the other interview projects we've done under the Legend's Speak tag here.

As mentioned, the only way I know for sure to get the 123 book is from the Thai Smai store in Bangkok. I have heard that people have been able to get it mailed to them via email, but it may come slowly. Here is their website. For those who can't get the book we put up photographs of the profiles on the Roundtable forum here. If you love Muay Thai history it's worth getting, it's a great book.

All the Dieselnoi in the Preserve The Legacy Project

We've been blessed by being able to film with an document Dieselnoi in several ways, a living history of the greatness of a by-gone era of Muay Thai, enjoy those sessions, interviews and discussions of techniques below. It's been amazing to bring him forward to the English speaking world, and have everyone know how incredible a person he is:

watch the above here 

listen to the above podcast here 

watch the above interview here 

listen to the above podcast here 

you can watch Dieselnoi commentate on his legendary fight vs Samart Payakaroon here 

watch this incredible Muay Thai Library session with Dieselnoi teaching how to fight his style

Dieselnoi preparing fighters for Lumpinee, a mini-doc 

watch this mini-documentary following Dieselnoi helping train a Thai fighter for fights 

me talking about Dieselnoi's up close low kick in the clinch 

above, me talking about Dieselnoi's "air knees" as a training and conditioning technique 

above, watch this wonderful Muay Thai library session, Dieselnoi teaching his techniques and ethic

My interview of Dieselnoi on the state of Muay Thai 

This incredible seminar over two days included 4 legends of Muay Thai, watch it here 

my article on when I first met Dieselnoi 

watch the 2nd Muay Thai Library session with Dieselnoi here 

Dieselnoi teaches both Ring Strategies and how to train 

The English Transcript for the 123 Interview is here:

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This one is from the past.

I got to fight him.

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Do you know how old he was

when he fought me?

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He was 32. I was 16.

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He was the same age as P'Moo. [Pudpadnoi]

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I was a baby. He was already champion.

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Let me show you something.

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This person is the previous generation.

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I never saw him fight.

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This one is Suk Prasarthinpimai.

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He is a legend of Muay Thai.

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He could fight even at 50 years old.

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50?

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Yes. That's Suk Prasarthinpimai.

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He went to jail.

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In Thailand,

fighters were not famous in the past.

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He got out of jail and continued to fight.

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Did many fighters have tattoos in the past?

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It was common in the past.

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In the past,

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people didn't like fighters because

of they were like gangsters.

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They were misbehaving young men.

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So it was common to have a lot of tattoos.

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This person was good.

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I didn't watch his matches.

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But I know his biography.

Chuchai Prakhanchai.

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He was good looking.

He was also a movie actor.

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I didn't see these people fight.

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He was really strong.

Nobody could knock him out.

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never been knocked out?

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never lost by knock out

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Nickname was Yangton [rubber tree]

His name was Thongbai Yontarakit.

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Nobody could knock him out.

He punched a lot. Very strong.

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A puncher, accurate.

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Usaman was good.

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I never saw him fight.

But the other ones were more famous.

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Prayuth was really good and very skilled.

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Prayuth

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- There was no TV in the past.

- No

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- Did you know them from reading?

- No, they were before I was born.

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These people?

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Older people knew them.

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Yes exactly.

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He was probably reincarnated.

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He is re-born already by now.

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This one is also good.

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He did Western style boxing

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and also Muay Thai.

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He was very good at Western style boxing.

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Adul Srisothorn was really

good and had good skill.

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good skill, Femeu

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oh he could knee really high.

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In the past

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fighters didn't retreat.

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attack only

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If any fighter retreated,

the audience would reject them.

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Samart and other people

would be kicked out, before.

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These people are old.

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This one Ravee

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He attacked only.

People always shouted "Ravee Ravee".

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Ravee['s name] came to mean "attack".

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Do you understand?

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When people fight,

it's called Ravee.

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When he fought in the ring

people shouted "Ravee Ravee".

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His name is Ravee.

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His kick was hard.

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- Apidej kicked hard.

- yes hard kick.

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He kicked left and very hard.

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But he didn't have a fighter's heart.

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- really?

- that's true.

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But he was good.

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He was left handed, right?

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Both of them fought 11 times.

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He is still alive, very old and forgetful.

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He and I went for an event.

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I told him "you forgot your phone."

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He always forgets things.

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I don't know this person.

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Since I started fighting...

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Muangsurin. It was an old gym, wasn't it?

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Yes old. The gym is closed.

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Payap and these people are old.

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Here

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Since I started fighting,

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Thongbai was very strong.

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He was very durable.

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Anantasak is still alive.

I never fought with him.

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Den was average.

Anantasak and Den were average.

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Khongdej had strong left kick.

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He was from Chonburi.

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His nickname was Chalam. [shark]

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Thonburi gym?

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Loogbangprasroy, old gym

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This person passed away.

His punch was very strong.

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His punch was hard.

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His opponent always fell

after being punched.

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This person was strong too.

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His left punch was very strong.

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Bantamweight

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- I like him. He was very good.

- oh Sirimongkol

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He was left-handed.

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Fahsai was good.

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This is P'Cheep [Wichannoi].  So good.

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This person was average.

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This one was also average.

This one.

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Since I started fighting...

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- Wichannoi. He is older than you.

- Yes

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In Bangkok,

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I never lost to anyone.

He was the first person who defeated me.

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When he defeated me,

the stadium gave him a gold weight 5 Baht. [76 grams, about $1700 in 1980]

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- 5 Baht?

- Because I never lost to anyone.

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He defeated me.

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How old were you when you fought him?

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He was in his 30's.  I was 16.

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in his 30's?

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It was a decision loss, right?

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Points for the first fight, it was a close fight.

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The second fight was very hard, he rung me and I was dizzy.

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His techniques were excellent.

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You were a baby.

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He never lost to any tall fighter.

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Do you what his weakness was?

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It was left kicks.

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He lost to this person.

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He fought all of them here.

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He fought with these people.

But I didn't. I was younger.

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He lost to this person.

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He lost this one.

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He lost to a fighter with a good left kick.

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He could not move.

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He lost to left handed fighter.

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Any tall fighters

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who wanted to knee him always failed.

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His punch

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He didn't use this part to punch.

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When the opponent came

in, he would punch with his forearm.

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Then he hit back here, behind the ear.

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- got dizzy?

- yes of course.

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very good

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I admit that he was good.

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Saensak was very strong.

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World Champion

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- World Champion [WBC World Boxing Champion]

- World Champion

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lightweight

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He was a world champion.

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- Muay Thai?

- He was amazing there too. Famous for Muay Thai.

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His punch was strong in Muay Thai.

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He was asked to do

 Western boxing and was champion in that.

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And he got the world champion title.

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When he came back,

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they wanted me to fight him.

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But he was 140 lbs. I was only 128 lbs.

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Couldn't work out.

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This person was very skilled.

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Like Samart, he always retreated.

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Never "dern"

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My kru is 45 years old.

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He grabbed the rope.

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Then kicked my head and yelled "Poot Lorlek", like he's famous for this.

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He was good at doing this.

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- This was allowed before, right?

- Yes

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He didn't hold the rope.

He just leaned on the rope and kicked.

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- This is P'Moo.

- Pudpadnoi

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He runs away also, but I like him. His left kick was strong.

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- Is he a good person?

- Yes

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He has a fighter's heart.

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He never gave up and kicked hard.

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What's his style?

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A Kicker. When the opponent came at him he was not afraid.

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He kicked left very hard.

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He didn't like knees.

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Nobody likes knees.

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This person had a puncher's style [Muay Maat].

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This is Bantamweight.

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The number one light flyweight.

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His punch was strong.

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This person was Samart's trainer.

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He used to fight with me.

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Daotong. His nickname is Jim.

He was good.

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He was Muay Khao.

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He was pretty good. Knee style.

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But he was not famous for long.

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He was too lazy to train.

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How old was he when he retired?

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If you have knee style

but don't train enough,

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you won't last long.

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Because knee style requires strength.

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If you are too lazy to train, you won't

have any strength. You can't fight.

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Muay Khao

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Do you know Archan Chalee?  Pareuhatlek...

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He is a teacher of physical education.

This is his elder brother.

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He was in Bantamweight.

He was very good.

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left kick, left punch

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- Is Paruhautlek his student?

- No, younger brother.

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This person used to fight me.

He was older. He was good.

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He lives in America now.

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oh he was number one with elbows.

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very good

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He was quite famous.

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Samersigngh. He was an elbow fighter [Muay Sok].

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Look look here

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This person

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He didn't just close in.

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Here, he'd grab and-

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would yank down first.

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His nickname was Khun Khao Nuclear [Mr. Nuclear Knee].

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Very strong. Nuclear

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Very strong

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His nickname was Khun Khao Nuclear.

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His joints were very strong.

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He was slow but kneed very hard.

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very hard

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He was Femeu.

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Similar to Samart, left kick, good looking.

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This person too.

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Jockey was pure knee style.

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It was "jump and knee"

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-Wide, yeah, jump and knee

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His nickname was

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Khun Khao Palang Ma. [Horsepower Knee]

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He was very strong.

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got hit but nothing

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very strong

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His nickname was Manuthin. [Stone Man]

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He was Femeu.

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Very smart. Left kicks.

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- backward techniques

- yes yes

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Both of them were quite

similar in techniques.

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kick and retreat

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He fought for a long time.

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This person lives abroard.

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This person and I

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had the same style. But he was better.

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He used to fight with me

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for Yod Khun Khao title. [Best Knee Fighter title]

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He was rich but old at that time.

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He was good. He was tall. Had all the weapons.

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He fought with 3 Janpanese fighters

who lined up to fight.

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- Were both of you the same height?

- Yes

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At one point, he didn't have any opponents.

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just like me

0:30:55.734,0:30:58.349

He had 2-3 people to fight with him.

0:30:59.569,0:31:01.954

But he fell over easily.

0:31:03.808,0:31:07.656

This person kicked left and punched left.

0:31:13.178,0:31:16.204

He also kicked left and punched left.

He was very fast.

0:31:17.044,0:31:19.436

But he also danced back.

0:31:20.370,0:31:21.594

annoying, right?

0:31:22.252,0:31:23.740

I was not afraid of him.

0:31:23.740,0:31:24.796

This person was good.

0:31:24.796,0:31:26.103

He is Narongnoi.

0:31:26.751,0:31:28.434

He came from Ayutthaya.

0:31:28.812,0:31:31.931

He is in a coma now.

0:31:32.700,0:31:34.603

It's been around 10 years. He just sleeps.

0:31:34.603,0:31:37.516

He is still alive but in a coma.

0:31:38.543,0:31:42.014

How do you call?

0:31:44.999,0:31:47.230

He was a good fighter

with strong right kick.

0:31:47.230,0:31:49.526

I got a bruise from his punch.

0:31:49.526,0:31:50.659

His kick was very strong.

0:31:50.659,0:31:52.314

strong punch, strong kick.

0:31:54.664,0:31:56.288

He was another fighter with techniques.

0:31:57.142,0:31:58.982

Another skilled fighter.

0:31:58.982,0:32:02.554

You started with Nongkhai, right?

0:32:02.554,0:32:03.909

When I was young, I was tall.

0:32:03.909,0:32:07.883

I fought with everyone -

Nongkhai, Narongnoi, Posai.

0:32:09.136,0:32:10.855

I never fought with Jitti.

0:32:10.855,0:32:12.143

I fought with most of them.

0:32:15.174,0:32:17.941

For more senior fighters,

I had to wai them after the fight.

0:32:17.941,0:32:19.906

I wai to everyone, they were all my seniors.

0:32:19.906,0:32:21.421

You know Sagat.

0:32:26.095,0:32:28.237

This person was also good.

0:32:28.237,0:32:30.015

He had so many weapons

0:32:30.015,0:32:33.576

- knees, technical, and elbows.

0:32:33.576,0:32:35.925

- He fought with me 5 times.

- Did he have strong weapons?

0:32:35.925,0:32:40.564

He had everything, not only techniques.

He was also fast.

0:32:42.649,0:32:44.903

His elbow technique was pretty good.

0:32:48.300,0:32:49.505

We fought 5 times.

0:32:49.505,0:32:51.649

Before the 1st time we fought,

0:32:51.649,0:32:53.303

he had received the Royal Cup,

0:32:53.303,0:32:55.630

and I hadn't lost to

anyone except Wichannoi.

0:32:55.630,0:32:57.733

There was a huge audience for that first fight. [with Padejseuk]

0:32:57.733,0:33:02.034

In round 4, I was ahead.

0:33:02.766,0:33:05.254

He hit my head. I was full of blood.

0:33:05.254,0:33:07.433

The crowd yelled "Cruel!".

0:33:08.090,0:33:09.702

I led by a lot of points.

0:33:09.702,0:33:12.175

The referee stopped and

asked a doctor to check.

0:33:12.175,0:33:14.035

I showed the wound to the doctor.

0:33:15.098,0:33:18.294

The doctor allowed it to continue.

This was the end of round 3.

0:33:19.088,0:33:21.643

In round 4, I attacked so hard that

0:33:21.643,0:33:24.317

he pressed the wound with his hand.

0:33:24.317,0:33:26.407

Audience yelled "Cruel!".

0:33:26.407,0:33:29.607

There was less than 1 minutue left.

0:33:30.363,0:33:31.498

"Stop"

0:33:31.498,0:33:33.414

The doctor checked and

didn't allow to continue.

0:33:46.289,0:33:49.528

The doctor didn't allow the fight to go on.

0:33:49.528,0:33:53.471

My corner was upset

because I almost won.

0:33:53.471,0:33:56.601

He went to the doctor.

The doctor shaved my head.

0:33:56.601,0:33:59.387

The wound was so small.

0:33:59.784,0:34:03.373

I was brought back to the ring to show, my manager was still so mad an hour later.

0:34:03.373,0:34:05.423

- You were bleeding a lot, right?

- That's right.

0:34:05.423,0:34:08.273

There were so many police

and soliders at the ring.

0:34:08.273,0:34:10.861

My supervisor didn't care

about any conflict and trouble.

0:34:13.933,0:34:16.700

The next morning,

0:34:16.700,0:34:18.195

it was stated on the front page of Thai Rath [biggest Thai newspaper]

0:34:19.178,0:34:21.980

"Ratchadamnern almost in chaos

0:34:21.980,0:34:24.417

from Muay Thai match between

Dieselnoi and Padejseuk"

0:34:24.500,0:34:26.574

Do you remember how many stitches you got?

0:34:26.574,0:34:28.059

- no stitches

- no stitches?

0:34:30.098,0:34:31.701

That was cheating, no?

0:34:31.701,0:34:33.194

Not cheating

0:34:33.194,0:34:35.121

I was young.

0:34:36.597,0:34:39.063

The doctor that checked on me

0:34:39.063,0:34:40.323

was not a real doctor.

0:34:40.323,0:34:43.157

He was a male nurse.

0:34:43.982,0:34:47.533

If we sued the stadium, we would have

been compensated millions of baht.

0:34:48.363,0:34:51.121

In the end, Hia Lao [Dieselnoi's manager] announced

that we would rematch.

0:34:51.646,0:34:54.269

We fought 4 times after that.

0:34:54.269,0:34:56.481

How old were you on the first match?

0:34:56.481,0:34:57.927

15-16?

0:34:57.927,0:34:59.365

You mean when I fought with him?

0:34:59.365,0:35:00.696

I was around 16 years old.

0:35:00.696,0:35:02.510

- around 16 years old

- You were young.

0:35:02.510,0:35:03.524

still young.

0:35:04.115,0:35:05.475

ah, we know him!

0:35:07.665,0:35:09.341

I fought with him 3 times.

0:35:09.991,0:35:11.779

3 times with him

0:35:11.779,0:35:15.812

In these 3 times, I only fought with him.

0:35:16.330,0:35:20.007

At that time, he was older and more famous.

0:35:20.007,0:35:22.347

But I surpassed him.

0:35:22.806,0:35:24.045

I didn't have any opponents.

0:35:24.045,0:35:25.638

He fought with me.

0:35:25.638,0:35:27.723

I only fought with him.

0:35:27.723,0:35:30.334

I won by knock out the 1st time.

I hit his chin.

0:35:30.334,0:35:34.236

Then he defeated Wichannoi

four months later.

0:35:34.236,0:35:35.940

He arranged to fight with me again.

0:35:35.940,0:35:37.080

no one wanted to see it

0:35:38.101,0:35:39.947

Audience said

0:35:39.947,0:35:42.443

they didn't want to watch

because he couldn't beat me.

0:35:43.227,0:35:45.032

The tickets

0:35:45.032,0:35:48.699

There were 12 fighters that day. 

But audience only bet on me.

0:35:49.701,0:35:52.349

When we did Wai Kru, I already led in the odds by

0:35:52.349,0:35:53.955

a 4:1 bet.

0:35:54.391,0:35:56.191

4000 to 1000

0:35:56.191,0:35:57.743

During the Ram Muay, already 4:1

0:35:57.743,0:35:59.649

I led.  That was only Wai Kru.

0:36:01.615,0:36:02.800

I was careless this time.

0:36:02.800,0:36:04.539

I thought that I knocked

him out last time.

0:36:04.539,0:36:06.195

So I went out at night with Chamuakpet.

0:36:06.195,0:36:08.451

And I didn't train much.

0:36:09.190,0:36:12.279

Nothing much in round 1.

0:36:12.279,0:36:13.714

In round 2, I was like...

0:36:14.849,0:36:16.567

When I closed in, I kneed him lightly.

0:36:16.567,0:36:17.777

But he hit back...

0:36:18.535,0:36:22.307

He hit me here.

My legs were weak all the sudden.

0:36:23.034,0:36:25.096

I thought "you are serious now?"

0:36:25.096,0:36:28.170

I came again to knee right.

He struck back and I fell.

0:36:28.170,0:36:29.481

So he won by knock out.

0:36:31.062,0:36:34.294

When he hit me here,

I couldn't see anything anymore.

0:36:34.932,0:36:36.508

I was dizzy.

0:36:37.404,0:36:39.622

If I was hit close to

the red corner here,

0:36:39.622,0:36:42.242

I was so dizzy and walked around the entire ring.

0:36:43.847,0:36:46.318

I only heard the crowd jeering "hey hey hey".

0:36:46.318,0:36:47.978

But I couldn't see anything.

0:36:50.475,0:36:53.378

That was the first time in

my life I lost by knock out.

0:36:55.014,0:36:57.680

When I came down, somebody massaged me.

I didn't feel anything.

0:36:57.998,0:37:01.159

There was another fight after me.

0:37:01.159,0:37:03.076

I was so out, I didn't know where I was, I argued for them to let me keep fighting

0:37:04.523,0:37:06.620

When somebody told me I

lost my knock out, I cried.

0:37:06.620,0:37:07.787

I was sad.

0:37:07.787,0:37:09.628

We had another match not long after.

0:37:09.628,0:37:11.356

Did you remember

anything after the match?

0:37:11.356,0:37:13.085

Did you remember

anything after the match?

0:37:13.085,0:37:15.216

- You couldn't remember anything?

- No I couldn't.

0:37:15.216,0:37:16.956

First time in my life

0:37:16.956,0:37:18.712

The 3rd match was not long after.

0:37:19.295,0:37:21.549

It was for the 135 lb Lumpini title.

0:37:21.549,0:37:23.628

I beat him easily this time.

0:37:23.628,0:37:26.975

I was afraid to chase him down this time.

0:37:26.975,0:37:31.148

I only teep and kicked.

He couldn't land a punch on me.

0:37:32.230,0:37:33.625

So you won the final match.

0:37:36.886,0:37:39.161

This person had a strong punch.

0:37:39.161,0:37:40.330

Raktae

0:37:40.330,0:37:43.530

I fought with him.

0:37:44.150,0:37:47.463

This the story...

The day before our fight...

0:37:47.463,0:37:48.769

He went to the stadium.

0:37:48.769,0:37:52.044

- everything I am telling you was

already in the biography -

0:37:55.365,0:37:58.357

They asked him.

0:37:58.357,0:38:00.119

"Are you afraid to

fight with Dieselnoi?"

0:38:00.850,0:38:02.063

Do you know what he answered?

0:38:02.063,0:38:03.563

He actually fought in

higher weight class than me.

0:38:03.563,0:38:05.436

He fought 135. I fought then 130.

0:38:05.436,0:38:07.190

But we fought at 133.

0:38:07.190,0:38:09.884

He answered that yes he was afraid. "Glua krap"

0:38:09.884,0:38:11.699

He was afraid that I would only retreat.

0:38:12.064,0:38:13.944

He said he was afraid

that I would only retreat.

0:38:13.944,0:38:16.110

I was so mad that he said that.

When they asked me about it,

0:38:16.538,0:38:19.473

I said the person who retreated

would be fined 10,000 baht per step backwards.

0:38:21.030,0:38:23.097

10,000 baht per step back.

0:38:23.097,0:38:27.286

When the fight started.

I grabbed, struck and kneed immediately.

0:38:32.180,0:38:33.518

It was a fun match.

0:38:34.619,0:38:36.059

He hit me.

0:38:36.059,0:38:39.024

When he reached me, I grabbed like this [snuffing his punches].

0:38:39.752,0:38:41.596

I kneed and kneed again.

0:38:41.596,0:38:43.489

He tried to push me off.

0:38:43.489,0:38:45.416

But he couldn't because I then would grab his neck.

0:38:45.416,0:38:47.044

His arms were tied up.

How could he push me?

0:38:51.160,0:38:53.092

He couldn't punch. So he elbowed instead.

0:38:53.418,0:38:56.176

He hit me many times around my face.

0:38:56.824,0:38:59.702

I stayed close to him.

0:38:59.702,0:39:01.312

When we were in round 3,

0:39:01.312,0:39:02.988

he told me "hey, enough already, it hurts".

0:39:04.234,0:39:05.869

- 5 rounds in total?

- Yes

0:39:05.869,0:39:07.918

I told him "If it hurts, don't come close."

0:39:07.918,0:39:10.048

At the beginning of round

5, he punched my face hard.

0:39:10.048,0:39:11.142

I pushed him out.

0:39:11.142,0:39:13.494

My legs were shaking.

0:39:14.165,0:39:18.195

When he punched, I grabbed his neck.

0:39:18.195,0:39:19.841

I hit him hard many times.

0:39:19.841,0:39:22.628

He said "hey it hurts".

But I still hit him.

0:39:23.168,0:39:25.069

You can't do this to Dieselnoi.

0:39:26.409,0:39:28.175

I just hit hard.

0:39:29.046,0:39:31.320

He came to fight with me.

0:39:31.320,0:39:32.748

I already retired.

0:39:34.401,0:39:37.578

I didn't have much time for training.

0:39:37.578,0:39:39.542

I only trained around

1 month for this match.

0:39:39.542,0:39:41.062

I admitted that I was really tired.

0:39:41.062,0:39:45.043

I thought I had lost but it was a draw.

0:39:45.043,0:39:46.427

But I was really tired.

0:39:46.427,0:39:49.367

I rested in my corner during the break.

I was exhausted.

0:39:49.367,0:39:51.658

My body was numb all over.

0:39:51.658,0:39:53.429

I tried to knee but there was no power.

0:39:53.429,0:39:55.732

I just lifted my leg for nothing.

I was too tired.

0:39:55.732,0:39:58.784

When we were done, the crowd complained.

We had a rematch right away.

0:39:58.784,0:40:01.333

I prepared well for the next match.

I didn't go out at all.

0:40:01.333,0:40:03.496

I trained non-stop.

0:40:03.496,0:40:06.199

I thought apart from him,

I wouldn't have any opponent.

0:40:07.069,0:40:09.397

Thinking about my career at its end.

0:40:09.397,0:40:11.651

I didn't have any matches

for 3 months or 8 months.

0:40:11.651,0:40:12.959

After I fought with Samart,

0:40:12.959,0:40:14.898

I stopped fighting for 1 year and 6 months.

0:40:14.898,0:40:17.374

- 6 months?

- No, 1 year and 6 months!

0:40:17.763,0:40:19.600

No matches at all.

0:40:19.600,0:40:21.507

After that I fought with Sagat.

0:40:21.507,0:40:23.599

But I didn't go anywhere. I only trained.

0:40:23.599,0:40:26.109

I trained so much that I cried.

0:40:26.109,0:40:29.109

I ran and cried.

0:40:29.109,0:40:31.017

No money. No place to go.

0:40:31.017,0:40:33.419

When I fought with this guy [the rematch with Krongsak],

I only trained.

0:40:33.419,0:40:36.185

I won the second fight easily.

0:40:36.185,0:40:39.559

After I won, I was like ...

0:40:39.559,0:40:42.172

- Are you younger than him?

- No same age.

0:40:56.297,0:41:00.959

I thought if I defeated him [Krongsak],

how long I have to wait for another fight?

0:41:01.806,0:41:05.306

My body was not in a good shape anymore.

That's when I decided to retire.

0:41:06.924,0:41:08.750

I trained but no opponents.

0:41:09.389,0:41:11.936

It was that I had to retire by default.

0:41:12.428,0:41:16.011

- Trained hard for nothing.

- yes it just disappeared.

0:41:16.011,0:41:18.422

It was like the training

was for Chamuakpet and Panomtuanlek.

0:41:19.727,0:41:21.499

He was in higher weight class. Pretty good.

0:41:21.499,0:41:23.542

strong left kick.

0:41:24.663,0:41:27.069

He liked teep. He only teeped.

0:41:27.069,0:41:29.698

These people were average.

0:41:29.698,0:41:31.045

Muay teep

0:41:31.561,0:41:33.609

average average

0:41:33.609,0:41:36.209

This person was pretty good.

0:41:36.592,0:41:41.009

He was skilled with a strong

kick and good tactics.

0:41:41.009,0:41:42.596

He was afraid of me.

0:41:43.403,0:41:46.254

He was about to fight with me many times.

0:41:46.254,0:41:49.559

But he told others that he didn't

want to because he was afraid.

0:41:52.235,0:41:53.777

He was afraid.

0:41:53.777,0:41:56.250

If he was not afraid,

he would have been quite dangerous.

0:41:56.250,0:41:58.552

He had strong kick, knees and punches.

0:41:59.795,0:42:02.576

He didn't like to be kneed though.

0:42:07.136,0:42:10.403

He used to train with me.

0:42:10.403,0:42:13.223

I was already retired.

But they asked me to train with him.

0:42:13.639,0:42:16.764

He was not so good.

Yank him in the clinch just a little and he went flying.

0:42:27.725,0:42:29.744

Oh this person.

0:42:29.744,0:42:31.499

Vicious. Very hard to fight.

0:42:35.422,0:42:37.264

Back always against the rope.

0:42:38.627,0:42:39.774

very difficult to punch.

0:42:41.994,0:42:43.824

Sakornpitak gym

0:42:44.096,0:42:45.670

had a lot of good fighters like

0:42:45.670,0:42:47.804

Pannoi.  They were very good.

0:42:48.635,0:42:52.045

When you fight with these people,

you can't just stand there.

0:42:53.308,0:42:54.731

They always stayed close to you.

0:42:54.731,0:42:56.494

- all 5 rounds, right?

- Yes 5 rounds.

0:42:56.494,0:42:59.122

You can't stop because they

will kick you right away.

0:43:00.021,0:43:02.112

Oh this one.  I like him.

0:43:02.112,0:43:04.155

Of all Muay Mat,

I like him the best.

0:43:04.155,0:43:06.145

- Have you watched him?

- Never.

0:43:07.202,0:43:10.791

I've seen a lot of punching fighters.

This one was good.

0:43:10.791,0:43:13.164

Do you know how he punched?

0:43:13.164,0:43:15.432

Once the round started, he closed in.

0:43:16.181,0:43:18.244

He was kicked but never even blocked.

0:43:18.646,0:43:22.646

The opponent kicked him. He was fine.

Once the opponent stopped, he punched.

0:43:23.152,0:43:24.371

heavy strikes

0:43:26.729,0:43:28.830

But he misbehaved.

0:43:28.830,0:43:32.047

He liked to bet on horses, was accused of throwing fights.

0:43:32.047,0:43:33.987

But his punches were strong.

0:43:34.857,0:43:37.485

He wouldn't be able to punch Samart.

Samart would keep retreating.

0:43:37.485,0:43:41.417

If he tried to punch Samart,

Samart would just stay away.

0:43:41.417,0:43:43.267

A very strong punch.

0:43:44.263,0:43:46.697

He is the only Muay Mat fighter I like.

0:43:48.916,0:43:51.191

Think about it.

0:43:51.191,0:43:53.233

Others have teeps and punches.

0:43:53.233,0:43:54.610

He didn't. He only had...

0:43:55.677,0:43:58.842

He kept coming!

He didn't care about being kicked.

0:43:58.842,0:44:01.555

- He didn't care.

- right. He only guarded himself here.

0:44:01.555,0:44:03.701

Once the opponent stopped, he would punch.

0:44:04.319,0:44:06.498

He was confident in his punch.

0:44:07.333,0:44:08.857

yeh very strong.

0:44:18.132,0:44:20.122

Why did they put him here?

0:44:21.378,0:44:22.854

He was not well-known. No name.

0:44:24.586,0:44:25.933

Why is he in this book then?

0:44:25.933,0:44:27.424

Probably money.

0:44:30.016,0:44:31.560

oh this one was a playboy.

0:44:32.471,0:44:34.267

We trained together.

0:44:34.267,0:44:35.534

Jomwo

0:44:35.534,0:44:36.943

His rhythm was good.

He was smart.

0:44:36.943,0:44:38.709

But he was extremely lazy in training.

0:44:39.306,0:44:41.517

He was called "playboy".

0:44:44.722,0:44:46.905

But his kick was good and strong.

0:44:50.392,0:44:51.779

He was fast.

0:44:51.779,0:44:54.427

He fought and could knock out Samart.

0:44:55.170,0:44:57.311

oh he was very quick to

come in and go back.

0:44:57.311,0:44:59.670

You think Samart was fast.

This guy was faster.

0:45:00.937,0:45:03.365

Samart never chased anyone.

But he had to chase him.

0:45:03.365,0:45:04.985

He was very quick.

0:45:05.558,0:45:08.040

But his gym owner didn't

give him a lot of money.

0:45:09.134,0:45:10.587

So he would fix fights.

0:45:14.799,0:45:16.597

He was very skilled.

0:45:19.299,0:45:21.474

Kong.  He was very good.

0:45:21.949,0:45:23.679

Both Samart and Kong

0:45:23.679,0:45:25.814

They started fighting before I did.

0:45:25.814,0:45:28.698

I went to see them fight. They started

fighting since they were young.

0:45:28.698,0:45:30.037

They started young.

0:45:30.645,0:45:32.510

Both Samart and Kongthoranee

0:45:32.510,0:45:34.807

started young. They fought in temples.

0:45:34.807,0:45:37.775

They went around from

one temple to another.

0:45:38.425,0:45:41.052

They were good.

They started fighting at young age.

0:45:41.683,0:45:43.749

I went to see their matches.

0:45:43.749,0:45:45.698

Samart always retreated.

0:45:50.794,0:45:57.118

Samart, Kongtoranee, Bangklanoi

0:45:57.118,0:45:59.339

All 3 of them started fighting

when they were young.

0:45:59.339,0:46:00.528

This person was also good.

0:46:00.528,0:46:02.656

Samart never defeated Bangklanoi,

0:46:03.141,0:46:05.054

when they were young.

0:46:05.054,0:46:08.710

Bangklanoi never defeated

Kongtoranee when they were young.

0:46:08.710,0:46:11.795

When they grew up and moved to Bangkok,

0:46:11.795,0:46:14.141

Bangklanoi was defeated by Samart,

0:46:14.141,0:46:15.946

but defeated Kongtoranee.

0:46:18.337,0:46:20.780

Bangklanoi couldn't beat

Kongtoranee when they were young.

0:46:20.780,0:46:23.920

[I didn't follow this at the time]

0:46:24.635,0:46:26.871

Samart couldn't beat Bangklanoi

when they were young.

0:46:26.871,0:46:29.600

But Bangklanoi couldn't beat

Samart when they were adult.

0:46:29.600,0:46:31.797

Was Kongtoranee a bit shorter?

0:46:31.797,0:46:34.657

No they were the same height,

0:46:34.657,0:46:36.420

and same weight.

0:46:37.035,0:46:39.195

I trained him.

0:46:39.195,0:46:41.502

- Chamuakpet.

- Hapalang

0:46:41.502,0:46:43.871

I trained him.

0:46:43.871,0:46:45.753

I trained at the gym.

0:46:46.413,0:46:48.171

He came to see me.

0:46:48.575,0:46:52.383

I also gambled. So we asked kids to fight.

0:46:52.383,0:46:54.825

We got different kids to fight.

0:46:54.825,0:46:56.516

He was kicked.

He cried and went home.

0:46:56.516,0:46:57.801

But he came back the next day.

0:46:57.801,0:46:58.882

why?

0:46:58.882,0:47:00.595

He was very young.

0:47:07.069,0:47:08.797

Why did you go to Hapalang gym?

0:47:08.797,0:47:10.115

What?

0:47:10.115,0:47:12.678

You went to Hapalang gym.

0:47:12.678,0:47:14.348

Why did you go there?

0:47:14.348,0:47:16.153

I was bought.

0:47:17.055,0:47:20.410

My manager and Hapalang

owner were friends.

0:47:23.297,0:47:24.440

But I didn't go anywhere.

0:47:24.440,0:47:29.344

I was always with Sor Sirinan,

Hapalang, Sor Tanikul.

0:47:30.121,0:47:31.422

Just the name changes.

0:47:34.649,0:47:36.563

But I trained at the same location.

0:47:41.437,0:47:43.041

He was good at kicking the neck.

0:47:43.781,0:47:45.871

He was famous but not long.

0:47:45.871,0:47:48.629

He was good at kicking.

0:47:48.629,0:47:51.053

He was famous then he disappeared.

0:47:51.053,0:47:52.690

1-2 years

0:47:55.551,0:47:57.554

This person was pretty good.

0:48:02.214,0:48:03.971

He was older.

0:48:03.971,0:48:05.990

In the past, he was famous in Muay Thai.

0:48:05.990,0:48:07.315

Then he went to be an actor.

0:48:07.315,0:48:09.638

He misbehaved. He liked drinking.

0:48:09.638,0:48:13.040

He came back to fight again and was famous.

0:48:13.040,0:48:15.471

Then he disappeared again.

0:48:15.471,0:48:18.269

I didn't have any opponents.

They paid me to fight in Western boxing.

0:48:18.269,0:48:19.764

But I didn't do well.

0:48:21.061,0:48:22.875

This person was pretty

good and very skilled.

0:48:22.875,0:48:24.909

His weapons were very strong.

He was very skilled.

0:48:24.909,0:48:26.742

Sor Ploenjit gym has a

lot of good fighters, right?

0:48:26.742,0:48:28.218

Yes a lot.

0:48:28.922,0:48:31.715

He was quite good.

0:48:32.374,0:48:34.927

I think Ai Too was just average.

0:48:34.927,0:48:37.685

- You didn't like?

- I like him. He was just slow.

0:48:41.794,0:48:45.500

But he had a fighter's heart.

He was very committed.

0:48:45.500,0:48:48.862

But he was very slow.

0:48:50.310,0:48:51.458

This one...

0:48:51.458,0:48:54.146

His boxing posture didn't look good.

0:48:54.512,0:48:57.390

Not look good. But his arm...

0:48:58.092,0:49:00.735

Once he grabbed somebody,

that person wouldn't be able to move.

0:49:00.735,0:49:02.647

very strong

0:49:06.106,0:49:07.510

I trained him.

0:49:07.510,0:49:11.053

But he stopped because he didn't

receive much money in return.

0:49:12.853,0:49:14.572

He only got 20,000 baht at a time.

0:49:15.253,0:49:19.674

He trained hard but didn't get much money.

0:49:20.493,0:49:22.221

So he wanted to quit.

0:49:23.219,0:49:25.525

He didn't have a good manager.

0:49:26.973,0:49:28.571

His manager took too high a cut.

0:49:29.296,0:49:31.163

He was very skilled.

0:49:31.163,0:49:32.920

But he didn't have a fighter heart.

0:49:32.920,0:49:34.678

very skilled

0:49:34.678,0:49:37.518

These people were later generations.

0:49:37.518,0:49:41.018

This person was very

durable but not so smart.

0:49:42.076,0:49:44.299

I don't know if he knew

how to get back home.

0:49:44.650,0:49:48.286

very durable, "buffalo," dumb

0:49:48.286,0:49:50.280

He was good.

0:49:50.280,0:49:53.753

He was good but misbehaved.

0:49:53.753,0:49:56.137

When he became famous,

he misbehaved and went out.

0:49:56.137,0:49:58.086

He fixed the match often also.

0:50:01.901,0:50:03.511

His manager didn't give him money.

0:50:04.363,0:50:06.855

Langsuan was pretty good.

0:50:06.855,0:50:09.992

He had a good heart. His fights were exciting.

The audience liked him.

0:50:09.992,0:50:16.572

When he was young,

his grip was very strong.

0:50:17.324,0:50:21.841

Karuhut and Kaensak told me that it

was exhausting to fight with Langsuan.

0:50:24.486,0:50:28.821

He was a knee fighter

but he was not so clever.

0:50:29.743,0:50:31.039

Do you understand?

0:50:31.039,0:50:33.654

He didn't have techniques

like teep or shoves.

0:50:33.654,0:50:35.302

He just wanted to grab and knee.

0:50:35.302,0:50:38.000

How hard is it to walk in

and grab the opponent?

0:50:38.000,0:50:40.703

If your body is strong,

you will be ok to be hit.

0:50:40.703,0:50:43.418

Once you get older, you become weak.

0:50:43.418,0:50:46.166

Why was he named Taxi Meter?

0:50:46.939,0:50:49.151

Langsuan's gym name was Taxi Meter.

0:50:49.151,0:50:52.211

It might be the gyms' name.

0:50:52.211,0:50:55.627

Oh, no that was a sponsor.

0:51:00.062,0:51:02.762

This person, Chalam Cherry,

was not smart either.

0:51:03.711,0:51:06.216

This person was quite good.

0:51:06.216,0:51:08.716

He was good at left kick and left punch.

He was also smart.

0:51:09.491,0:51:14.063

Oh he was very very good.

He had good techniques.

0:51:14.460,0:51:20.062

He knew when to come in or retreat.

He was very good.

0:51:20.062,0:51:22.775

Sian was good too. [Karuhat]

0:51:23.231,0:51:25.503

This person...

0:51:26.450,0:51:29.160

his Muay Thai...

0:51:29.160,0:51:32.160

Why did they put him here? He fought in the Olympics, okay...

0:51:36.561,0:51:39.823

Burklerk was good. He had good weapons.

0:51:42.583,0:51:45.647

- This person...

- Was he ok?

0:51:45.647,0:51:47.472

He knew too much.

0:51:48.490,0:51:52.844

He was the only fighter who the gamblers didn't want to see him fight again after he was accused of throwing fights.

0:51:53.374,0:51:55.709

He always fought with

bigger fighters, right?

0:51:55.709,0:51:57.266

He fixed a fight.

0:51:59.755,0:52:03.967

He was the only one that the gamblers

didn't want him to fight again.

0:52:06.591,0:52:09.599

- Is there anyone...?

- What?

0:52:09.599,0:52:12.325

Was there any fighter who feared him?

0:52:12.325,0:52:16.856

Was there any fighter who

didn't want to fight him?

0:52:16.856,0:52:19.522

Everyone would fight.

0:52:19.522,0:52:22.665

Karuhat was a good and skilled fighter.

0:52:22.665,0:52:25.003

But he didn't like knees.

0:52:28.139,0:52:29.584

He liked something like this...

0:52:29.971,0:52:32.113

But he didn't like...

0:52:35.312,0:52:37.449

This person was good and skilled.

0:52:40.054,0:52:44.674

People said this person was good.

But I disagreed.

0:52:44.674,0:52:46.650

- He was not good?

- I think he was not good.

0:52:46.650,0:52:49.080

He had good punches.

0:52:49.080,0:52:52.535

He had strong weapons and

liked to take a risk.

0:52:52.535,0:52:55.155

But I don't feel that he was good.

0:52:55.155,0:52:58.515

- His matches were not fun to watch.

- Yes they were entertaining

0:52:58.515,0:52:59.773

But I think he took easy fights.

0:53:07.043,0:53:10.447

He was good and fast.  He had good eyes.

But he liked to retreat all the time.

0:53:10.447,0:53:11.826

Look at Samart.

0:53:11.826,0:53:13.630

He retreated more than Samart.

0:53:13.630,0:53:15.672

His teep was very good.

0:53:19.152,0:53:22.580

He was good, skilled and fast.

0:53:25.957,0:53:27.785

He was fast.

0:53:27.785,0:53:29.033

He didn't like punches.

0:53:29.033,0:53:33.494

He fought with Somrak. Somrak punched and he was like... ran away

0:53:33.494,0:53:38.501

[I'm wrong here]

0:53:39.029,0:53:40.659

But he had good skills.

0:53:41.319,0:53:43.126

good skill.

0:53:43.126,0:53:45.590

But he retreated all the

time during the match.

0:53:46.855,0:53:49.753

His opponents would get a headache chasing him around.

0:53:50.655,0:53:52.670

This person was strong.

0:53:53.983,0:53:56.833

He was strong.

0:53:57.576,0:53:59.234

He was short.

0:54:00.465,0:54:02.394

quite strong.

0:54:02.957,0:54:04.816

This person had a good skill.

0:54:05.640,0:54:07.753

He didn't like punches.

0:54:08.363,0:54:11.146

He was not smart.

0:54:11.146,0:54:13.469

He was a knee fighter.

0:54:13.469,0:54:17.078

- Not smart.

- right, not smart. Might forget his way home.

0:54:18.432,0:54:21.790

This person was good.

0:54:21.790,0:54:25.206

- He had a fighter's heart. I liked him.

- yes

0:54:25.206,0:54:26.734

He was a good knee fighter.

0:54:26.734,0:54:29.985

He also had teeps, kicks, everything.

0:54:29.985,0:54:32.236

But he got cut easily.

0:54:32.236,0:54:36.593

I watched Nampol fight with Dekkers.

0:54:36.593,0:54:39.491

in Holland, not Thailand.

0:54:39.491,0:54:44.799

I thought Dekkers didn't win for sure.

0:54:44.799,0:54:48.522

But Mr. Songchai was a clever promoter.

0:54:50.182,0:54:52.364

This person was ok.

0:54:52.364,0:54:54.330

I think he was quite good.

0:54:57.880,0:55:00.650

This person was good. [Namkabuan]

0:55:00.650,0:55:03.720

He was also good at Muay Thai.

0:55:03.720,0:55:06.890

In the same weight class,

nobody could defeat him

0:55:06.890,0:55:08.781

It was difficult to fight him.

0:55:12.076,0:55:15.302

Very difficult.

He had teeps, punches, and knees.

0:55:15.302,0:55:18.542

He was tall, but wouldn't come forward.

0:55:18.542,0:55:20.548

He didn't come forward.

0:55:20.548,0:55:22.811

He always put on guard.

0:55:22.811,0:55:24.742

It was difficult to fight with him.

0:55:24.742,0:55:29.209

He was good at both Muay

Thai and Western boxing.

0:55:29.209,0:55:31.116

I admit it was difficult

to fight with him.

0:55:31.855,0:55:34.539

- He didn't fight for championship, did he?

- No

0:55:37.501,0:55:39.163

When he did Muay Thai

0:55:39.163,0:55:41.401

when he was young,

0:55:41.401,0:55:43.279

nobody wanted to fight with him.

0:55:43.279,0:55:44.733

No promoter, right?

0:55:44.733,0:55:47.014

Not that reason.

Nobody wanted to fight him.

0:55:48.381,0:55:49.963

It was difficult to fight him.

0:55:49.963,0:55:52.272

He was tall. He didn't advance.

0:55:58.942,0:56:01.385

He also had good skills.

0:56:04.700,0:56:06.520

He could be considered a

legend, right?

0:56:07.820,0:56:11.790

He could be a legend

for Bantamweight class.

0:56:12.681,0:56:15.446

In the past,

the legend had to be at least 130 lbs.

0:56:17.906,0:56:19.136

Was Robert good?

0:56:19.136,0:56:20.259

- who?

- Robert

0:56:20.259,0:56:22.315

He was average, left kick.

0:56:22.315,0:56:23.693

He was okay.

0:56:23.693,0:56:25.323

He was average.

0:56:26.006,0:56:29.933

He was like wood,

not smart but strong.

0:56:29.933,0:56:31.518

average

0:56:34.932,0:56:36.855

oh this person was the same.

0:56:36.855,0:56:39.930

This one, this one and this one...

0:56:39.930,0:56:41.993

Not this.  This one...

0:56:41.993,0:56:43.196

this one

0:56:43.196,0:56:44.932

were the same, not smart.

0:56:48.954,0:56:51.026

This person was the same.

0:56:52.935,0:56:54.385

B class... In the past...

0:56:55.065,0:56:57.058

he was D.

0:56:57.995,0:57:01.249

Jomhod ... C

0:57:03.458,0:57:04.622

Changpuak

0:57:04.622,0:57:08.076

There were not many large

fighters in Thailand.

0:57:08.076,0:57:10.042

He was pretty good.

0:57:10.042,0:57:11.795

But...

0:57:11.795,0:57:13.966

When he did Muay Thai,

he didn't have a fighter's heart.

0:57:13.966,0:57:16.296

But he was strong

when he fought abroad in K1.

0:57:18.920,0:57:20.079

He came to help me train.

0:57:20.079,0:57:22.538

I asked him to help me train

0:57:22.538,0:57:24.386

- Where?

- in Thailand.

0:57:24.386,0:57:28.744

When I trained for a match, I asked him

to help me train because he was big.

0:57:30.096,0:57:31.964

This era of fighters, decline in quality already, right?

0:57:34.247,0:57:36.691

This one has been drinking a lot these days.

0:57:36.691,0:57:38.232

He's in Pattaya, don't you see him?

0:57:38.232,0:57:39.892

He lives in Pattaya.

0:57:40.590,0:57:42.352

He always drinks.

0:57:43.876,0:57:45.632

Do you know his son?

0:57:45.632,0:57:47.176

- No.

- Kongsak

0:57:47.176,0:57:48.663

- Kongsak?

- Sitboonmee

0:57:48.663,0:57:49.878

That's his son

0:57:50.730,0:57:53.008

from one wife. He has a few wives.

0:57:53.008,0:57:54.111

He was a playboy.

0:57:54.111,0:57:56.069

This person was good.

0:57:56.069,0:57:57.352

very durable

0:57:57.352,0:57:59.372

Samson

0:57:59.372,0:58:01.463

I liked to watch him.

His fights were fun to watch.

0:58:06.222,0:58:08.385

He would be brutal when he came in.

0:58:08.385,0:58:12.499

He walked and grabbed.  He was brutal.

0:58:12.934,0:58:14.506

big lungs

0:58:17.872,0:58:22.080

This person was dangerous.

0:58:22.080,0:58:24.809

He had a lot of dangerous weapons.

0:58:24.809,0:58:27.470

A fighter with strong punches...

0:58:27.470,0:58:31.517

Most punch fighters had

one strong side, a strong cross.

0:58:31.517,0:58:33.233

But his punches were strong on both sides.

0:58:35.622,0:58:37.999

If you punch with the right

hand, it has short reach.

0:58:37.999,0:58:39.603

How about a left punch? It's longer.

0:58:39.603,0:58:40.698

If the opponent teeps...

0:58:41.602,0:58:43.571

oh very dangerous

0:58:44.794,0:58:47.583

If a fighter has a strong front punch,

0:58:47.583,0:58:50.125

that would be dangerous

0:58:50.125,0:58:52.763

because it is closer to the opponent.

0:58:55.528,0:58:59.365

It was awesome when he fought Samson.

0:58:59.365,0:59:01.031

Samson punched him down.

0:59:01.031,0:59:04.166

- He punched Samson back.

- Samson used knee.

0:59:04.166,0:59:06.393

Samson fell down from Weerapol's punch!

0:59:07.719,0:59:08.991

oh this person

0:59:09.950,0:59:12.522

He had good right kick,

strong mind and never retreated.

0:59:13.251,0:59:16.355

It was fun to watch him fight Samson.

0:59:16.355,0:59:18.778

right kick, right kick, right punch

0:59:18.778,0:59:21.197

He was pretty good.

0:59:22.815,0:59:25.040

Singdam was average.

0:59:25.040,0:59:26.783

left kick

0:59:26.783,0:59:29.539

only left. Fighter's heart.

0:59:29.539,0:59:31.904

He was average, but his fights were fun.

0:59:33.218,0:59:35.823

Anatasak had good elbows,

but he was average.

0:59:35.823,0:59:37.889

only C

0:59:38.693,0:59:41.541

He was good for the first 3 rounds,

but got tired on 4th and 5th.

0:59:44.720,0:59:46.082

He was quick when he retreated.

0:59:46.082,0:59:48.494

- Silapathai

- good skill

0:59:48.494,0:59:50.730

He retreated a lot like Samart.

0:59:50.730,0:59:53.085

He fought Karuhat, just kick kick kick...

0:59:53.586,0:59:56.157

It wouldn't hurt because

he would only retreat.

0:59:59.791,1:00:03.087

- Lakhin was strong, right?

- Yes he was strong and had strong punches.

1:00:03.916,1:00:05.990

Not so smart but strong.

1:00:10.274,1:00:15.333

He was quite good.

He was good at leg kicks and punches.

1:00:15.333,1:00:16.726

His leg kicks hurt.

1:00:18.724,1:00:20.712

This person had strong right punch.

1:00:22.789,1:00:25.061

He was famous for a short period of time.

1:00:25.061,1:00:28.612

His punches, both right and

left, were strong.

1:00:28.612,1:00:30.496

But he couldn't fight for a long time.

1:00:33.336,1:00:35.026

This person was good.

1:00:35.026,1:00:37.312

Pretty good actually.

1:00:37.312,1:00:39.970

Not many people like

this these days.

1:00:39.970,1:00:41.625

- to fight for a long time.

- right.

1:00:42.254,1:00:44.037

There are not many good

fighters these days.

1:00:44.037,1:00:46.550

Like this person,

1:00:46.550,1:00:48.416

he wouldn't be able to fight Samart.

1:00:48.416,1:00:51.246

He couldn't fight Samart.

1:00:51.246,1:00:53.824

He would be only B back then.

1:00:54.569,1:00:57.552

He is around 36-37 years old now.

1:00:57.552,1:00:59.699

Yes because there is no opponent.

1:01:00.878,1:01:03.061

He was pretty good.

1:01:03.061,1:01:05.622

He defeated Saenchai many times.

1:01:05.622,1:01:08.675

He was defeated by many fighters.

But he was pretty good.

1:01:08.675,1:01:10.505

He had Cambodian style.

1:01:10.505,1:01:13.080

right kick, right punch, strong mind

1:01:15.878,1:01:17.338

Kaew...

1:01:17.338,1:01:19.149

He was famous.

1:01:19.149,1:01:23.025

But I would give him C+ only.

1:01:24.222,1:01:26.464

He was famous from going abroad.

1:01:26.464,1:01:28.020

- average

- yes

1:01:28.020,1:01:29.929

If I look at the standard,

1:01:31.958,1:01:34.320

he could be almost B-.

1:01:34.320,1:01:37.532

He got money because he

fought bigger fighters.

1:01:38.364,1:01:42.559

If he fought in professional matches...

1:01:44.082,1:01:46.122

average

1:01:46.122,1:01:47.423

slow

1:01:50.585,1:01:52.381

This person was good.

1:01:52.381,1:01:55.292

Was his leg broken?

1:01:55.292,1:01:56.624

yes

1:01:56.624,1:01:58.970

- He was good.

- He defeated Namkabuan.

1:01:58.970,1:02:00.862

He was good but his leg was broken.

1:02:00.862,1:02:03.579

That's why he had to retire.

He was pretty good and skilled.

1:02:05.201,1:02:08.195

He was famous for a short period

of time because of his broken leg.

1:02:09.774,1:02:11.340

He had good skills.

1:02:13.027,1:02:16.474

He had good skills, but not a strong heart.

1:02:17.027,1:02:18.836

He couldn't go up because

1:02:18.836,1:02:21.615

he always lost when he

fought more skilled fighters.

1:02:24.195,1:02:27.340

But his skill was good.

1:02:28.267,1:02:30.901

I like him.  His skill was good.

1:02:33.620,1:02:36.354

But he was so afraid of Saenchai.

1:02:36.354,1:02:38.343

If Saenchai fought him,

Saenchai wouldn't train.

1:02:38.343,1:02:40.640

He was afraid of Saenchai.

1:02:40.640,1:02:42.325

I don't know what he was afraid of.

1:02:43.641,1:02:45.890

He was very afraid.

1:02:48.962,1:02:51.129

But I like his skill.

1:02:51.703,1:02:53.431

He didn't like knees.

1:02:55.620,1:02:57.430

This person was very strong.

1:02:59.396,1:03:02.446

quite strong

1:03:02.446,1:03:05.621

but not so smart

1:03:05.621,1:03:08.166

His fights were entertaining. He was strong.

1:03:08.166,1:03:11.874

He is a knee fighter.

1:03:11.874,1:03:15.129

If he fought other knee fighters

in the past, would he win?

1:03:15.838,1:03:18.008

If he fought with Langsuan or

Dieselnoi, would he win?

1:03:20.473,1:03:23.420

His knees were nothing.

1:03:28.912,1:03:32.459

He had to strike hard.

1:03:32.459,1:03:33.767

But he...

1:03:33.767,1:03:37.047

his knee strikes were

1:03:37.047,1:03:39.824

beautiful [but wide].

1:03:40.014,1:03:41.156

- only locking?

- yes

1:03:41.994,1:03:43.470

His knee strike didn't hurt [not straight].

1:03:45.864,1:03:47.295

This person was good.

1:03:48.391,1:03:49.694

left kick.  He was smart.

1:03:50.331,1:03:53.567

It was difficult to fight him.

1:03:55.622,1:04:00.822

Could he be elite? I don't think so.

He only had left kick and left punch.

1:04:04.460,1:04:06.419

This style...

1:04:06.419,1:04:08.966

a long knee strike, it's hard to block

1:04:08.966,1:04:10.089

But he didn't like knees.

1:04:11.118,1:04:13.002

- This person was good.

- Do you like him?

1:04:13.620,1:04:14.746

He was ok, average

1:04:14.746,1:04:16.696

Could he be a legend?

1:04:16.956,1:04:18.186

He could be a today's legend.

1:04:19.119,1:04:22.283

I look at a legend [yodmuay]...

1:04:22.829,1:04:24.717

Sangmanee

1:04:24.717,1:04:26.814

I'll show you how to beat him.

1:04:29.161,1:04:30.476

He would stand like this.

1:04:31.116,1:04:35.142

He would let the opponent kick like this.

1:04:35.467,1:04:38.061

It's like he didn't do anything.

He didn't know how to block.

1:04:38.787,1:04:41.461

How could he be a yodmuay if he

didn't know how to defend a kick?

1:04:41.461,1:04:45.586

He fought Thanonchai many times.

Thanonchai was a knee fighter.

1:04:45.586,1:04:49.444

He was stupid.

1:04:51.676,1:04:54.872

They said he had good knees.

1:04:55.603,1:04:57.704

He couldn't hurt even a dog.

1:04:58.488,1:04:59.628

Don't you like him?

1:04:59.628,1:05:02.318

- Do you like him?

- Yes I like him a lot.

1:05:02.318,1:05:04.138

Let me ask you this.

1:05:04.138,1:05:05.343

How did he strike with his knees?

1:05:05.925,1:05:08.298

He locked and kneed.

1:05:11.827,1:05:14.710

Let me say in a harsh way.

1:05:15.022,1:05:16.615

They called...

1:05:17.747,1:05:19.920

[this is Dieselnoi cursing, casually]

1:05:21.308,1:05:23.228

He was tall.

1:05:23.228,1:05:26.780

But he kneed like this.

1:05:26.780,1:05:27.994

not hurt, right?

1:05:27.994,1:05:31.305

Have you seen him strike hard [straight]? Never.

1:05:32.720,1:05:35.337

He just used his knees and did this.

1:05:37.943,1:05:42.677

Now he fights westerners,

these fights don't allow clinching. He has punches, elbows...

1:05:44.020,1:05:47.713

- Saiyok - Elbow fighter.

- He was quite good.

1:05:47.713,1:05:50.678

He was good at fighting westerners.

1:05:56.733,1:05:59.082

same same

1:05:59.082,1:06:00.457

left kick

1:06:00.457,1:06:01.869

same same

1:06:01.869,1:06:03.563

They were good at fighting westerners.

1:06:03.563,1:06:05.285

Kem is Femeu

1:06:07.546,1:06:09.360

Buakaw only fights westerners

1:06:12.332,1:06:14.062

just fight westerners

1:06:14.062,1:06:16.993

Khaosai was stupid.

He was bad in Muay Thai.

1:06:18.123,1:06:22.123

We trained together before he

went to fight in Western boxing.

1:06:22.984,1:06:24.900

He looked the same as Kaokor [his twin brother].

1:06:24.900,1:06:26.021

They would cheat.

1:06:28.079,1:06:30.698

Kaosai was smaller.

He would go to weigh in.

1:06:30.698,1:06:33.044

But Kaokor fought in the match.

He was bigger.

1:06:33.402,1:06:34.598

When Kaosai fought

1:06:35.313,1:06:36.455

in Muay Thai,

1:06:36.455,1:06:39.467

he was so slow and got kicked.

1:06:39.467,1:06:40.669

He quit.

1:06:41.024,1:06:44.740

On that day,

there was also Western boxing matches.

1:06:44.740,1:06:47.923

But there were not enough fighters.

Kaosai's manager

1:06:47.923,1:06:50.714

took him to fight in Western boxing.

He knocked out his opponent.

1:06:51.549,1:06:53.485

So he moved and grew in that path.

1:06:53.485,1:06:58.155

- His left punch was strong.

- yes

1:06:58.155,1:07:00.642

He was good at punching here.

1:07:03.635,1:07:06.016

We lived together.

1:07:06.016,1:07:08.307

We trained together in the past.

1:07:09.643,1:07:11.845

Thank you.

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