Muay Thai Bones Podcast #21 - How to Beat Saenchai, The Magic of Technique, Westerners & Aggression, Namkabuan (1 hr, 40 min) (Patreon)
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episode 21 - subjects and timestamps (subtract 20 seconds for the audio version)
1. Namkabuan & the fragility of legends (0:20 on video)
2. What does the "magic" of Muay Thai consist of? (27:27 on video)
3. How to beat Saenchai - master of psychology (52:48 on video)
4. The colonialism of aggression (1:14:55 on video)
Reading Notes
1.Namkabuan and the Fragility of Legends
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Namkabuan receiving radiation treatment (above)
it was mentioned that Dieselnoi drove up to see Namkabuan in support, here is a photo of that. Napadej, Dieselnoi, Pudpadnoi & Arjan Pramot, among others.
You can watch Namkabuan in the Muay Thai Library here:
watch the Namkabuan Library session here
Kevin's original description of Namkabuan and the death of his brother Namphon, 4 years ago, recounting the death of Namkabuan's brother:
(above, Namkabuan's brother Namphon before he passed).
this was a quick video Namkabuan put up with his brother Namphon, before his passing, basically Namphon saying he's taking care of your health: watch it here - you can see how much Namkabuan loves him.
More on Namkabuan as a fighter, read;
Namkabuan vs Matee and Models of Muay Thai Masculinity
Namkabuan's Incredible Slide Knee
watch our slow motion capture of Namkabuan's slide knee
our interview/watch with me: Namkabuan giving his commentary on his fight vs Dekkers, watch it here
2. The Magic of Thailand's Muay Thai
This is from my study of Karuhat in the Sylvie Intensive series, part of Karuhat's "techne" as a southpaw fighter. Kevin identified 4 internal games Karuhat was teaching:
read the article here: The Secrets of Karuhat’s Style – Four Internal Games From Southpaw
Watch over 30 hours of Karuhat teaching me his style in the Sylvie Intensive. 100% of the proceeds go to the legends in this independent series (separate from Patreon):
watch the series with Karuhat here
Kevin mentions this fight in the "magic" of Thai technique discussion (below)
3. How to Beat Saechai
Sylvie references these two fights as differing opponent tactics and Saenchai responses:
mentioned is Saenchai's fight when he knocked out Kem Sor. Ploenjit (early in his career) with a sweep:
the Muay Thai Library session with Khunpinit is referenced in the podcast, an example of how to tension your opponent:
4. Westerners, Aggression and Colonialism
read the full "Modernization of Muay Thai Timeline" article here
Understanding the Thai relation of masculinity to violence read this article:
Thai Masculinity: Postioning Nak Muay Between Monkhood and Nak Leng – Peter Vail
a bit more on the self-civilizing movements within 19th century, early 20th century Thailand. The stark gender divisions, which to us feel very "Thai" were likely adoptions of European "civilized" examples: Ka and Krop - Europeans were somewhat horrified by not only topless women, but also the lack of visual distinction between males and females in the common classes.
This session with Arjan Surat is mentioned. After this session Arjan Surat, one of the toughest trainers in Thailand, talked to us about how MMA is not a gentleman's sport, so is unlike Muay Thai:
Samart's fight vs Panamtuanlek is mentioned as an example of Thai non-aggro dominance: