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Alright simmies... I have questions for you! 

So if you havent seen my previews for retail therapy 2.0 please see these two live stream previews here and here as well as my previous post here.

I have gotten pretty detailed since I last showed you all and I am excited for you to see what I have done! The overall idea is to ditch the clunky and painful GTW system. Also to make a retail store that can be on a home/residential lot and BGC. 

Where I am needing your help at the moment is how you want it to work for NPCs and autonomy. I am thinking of adding a custom career of a small business owner. But I need some way to "open" your shop at home and attract sims to come visit and potentially buy items. With that being said, here are some questions:

  • Do you want your shop auto-opened during regular business hours?
  • Do you want a task/goal to complete like other work-at home careers where you open your shop for a certain amount of time and you choose when to do that?
  • While your shop is open, do you want your sim to actively work the shop or be able to go about other things?
  • How long do you want your shops to be open for? I can do several options.
  • Do you all like the idea of a small business owner career? If so, please give me ideas on how you want the at home career to grow. I have looked at other careers, but maybe just any ideas for tasks/assignments?

As always, any and all ideas and feedback are welcome and appreciated!


Comments

asislavender

Opening and closing on business hours would be nice, but would your sim be able to leave/close the shop early to go to a festival or something? Otherwise, a closed/open sign object to trigger opening and closing could be neat.

SimsChic214

You are one of my favorite creators. I will give you all my money! I like the idea of the shop auto opening during business hours and would love the task assignments. I would also love for my sim to be able to do other things while the business is open. I would like to have family members work at the shop. Ex. My child can vacuum the floors and my teens can restock. Just my opinion. I will download anything you post so keep doing what you do!

Dexter Canty

I have been dying for a mod that will allow us to own a shop on our home lot. I’m leaning towards the opening/closing during regular business hours as well. Maybe make it similar to how the yard/street sale works in game? Also I love the idea of a small business owner career.

CoffeeConfessor

i prefer to have my sim do other things rather than just sitting there ringing out people

Anonymous

Love love love the idea of a small business owner carreer! But I also want to be able to open my shop and leave it without having to actively work it 😂

hparoon98

For me personally no auto open. Yes tasks and goals. Yes to being able to actively work the shop. YES YES YES to small business owner career. Goals/take Maybe like having a small business loan and paying it off Hiring employees Getting an actual storefront Hope any of this helps:) I am loving llamazon!!

Anonymous

As long as you have employees, your shop should be able to be opened without you actively running it. What you make for the day should probably be dependent on the skills of your employee though if you aren't there.

ButterflyMisty

I love the idea of being able to open it and do other stuff. I feel like that's very realistic

Laura Martinez Barca

buen o respondiendo algunas de tus preguntas si me gustaría que abriera y cerrara automáticamente porque es muy cómodo ya que no hay que interactuar con ningún panel de control me gustaría también que pudiera hacer otras cosas mientras atiende el negocio de eso trata trabajar en casa de conciliar la vida laboral con el trabajo , el horario de apertura y cierre puede ser de libre elección así como lo de abrir o no puede tener una configuración únicamente para eso si no lo activas o desactivas funciona automáticamente los objetivos si estarían muy bien y deberían ir en función de crecer con el negocio he visto por ahí un mod que te da mas fama por tener un restaurante bien gestionado podría ir de eso es decir que tu negocio te haga tan famoso que las colas de clientes sean muy grandes con opción a contratar ayudantes también podría tener algunas funciones como no tener que vender las cerezas una a una esas son mis ideas tu la creadora me encantará traducir al Español ese mod cuando esté listo un abrazo desde España y gracias por tu trabajo

Anonymous

I think having an object - like someone above stated maybe an open or closed sign - placed on the lot should be used to open the store and attract customers. I like the idea of a small business owner career that’s active - so we can have tasks we need to fulfill on the lot. My biggest issue with the retail system is that my Sims in the retail career don’t show up as possible employees for my retail store, so if that could be addressed it would be amazing. I feel like businesses should be open indefinitely( as in we can decide when to open or close it, not be forced to have a set time where it’s open or closed), isn’t entrepreneurship a 24/7 sort of job? Employees could have set hours, but when I play my business owner usually has to work long hours in order to make any money 😅 So excited for whatever you end up creating either way!

Anonymous

LOVE this idea! I miss being able to have a home where the store is. Like a live-in bakery. I would like my sims to be present. Honestly, in a perfect world, it would literally work like GTW but be on a residential lot. I liked the idea of separate funds. It would be nice to be able to have the family help as well. For working hours it could be nice to have time limit options. I think it would be neat if it was controlled by an OPEN/CLOSE sign build object you could get for the house. You could control all the store hour options from there as well. I kind of like the idea of task/goals but maybe make it an option? Sometimes i like having goals but sometimes it's nice to do whatever you want and some of those goals might not work well with "story". I love the idea of it being a career as well. There could be promotions based on the tasks/goals being completed like other GTW careers or based on sales. Some of the tasks could include Research store ideas, Research marketing, Sale pitches, Product review (ask customers what they think of the store/sale items. Another option with the career is perhaps halfway through the promotions could add the option of hiring staff (including household members) so then if you want to do your own thing you could. Love the idea!

Anonymous

I think I personally would want to choose when I open the shop but either way is awesome! Set times gives some realism too. If you have set times please include a possibility to take vacation so if I feel like doing something else one day my sim don’t have to quit their job for that. I love having tasks to do each !!

Anonymous

It would be nice to have it like a part time job like 17-21 3-4 days a week, and available for teenage Sims to run it besides their school work!

Anonymous

Be able to sell all kinds of crafted things would be awesome. Also maybe you could have like a gym and go around coach people at the machines and sell protein bars & shakes.

Denise

I'd prefer to choose the hours so we could adapt it to our schedules. I don't feel like we need goals to complete since for most retail careers we could also make new things during open store hours. I also love the idea of teenagers being able to work in the shop.

Anonymous

I love the idea of a small business career.

Anonymous

I also have a question, and it might be something I should know. Where do you find the Llamzon card and OMSP items? I watched your retail video from the last post, and I can't recall ever seeing the OMSP panel. And I just downloaded the Llamzon card.

Poka

There's a mod that does this already and you have the opportunity to make it 10X better. I sent you a Dm in Discord.

Nicole puiia

I’d like them to be able to actively work but also an option to hire an employee so they don’t always have to be there. And idk how GTW retail is for goals as I don’t own it but maybe goals to sell x number of items today or talk to x amount of customers. Maybe a computer task for after hours like “check inventory” or “order stock items” like other careers have that completes after an hour or two and is located in the “web” option.

Nickienew

I love this as a career! Looking forward to this app. The option to be open 4, 6, 8, 10 hours or more would be great. Thank you!

Larke Lockhart

I too would appreciate a home business type of option. I love the idea of using a sign (like the ones already in the game) to depict when the store was open/closed. Or the usual open/closed sign on the door or window. As for goals, I'm not sure as I have never tried the business owner things in the game. But if it was a small business, I'd go through the actual steps to GET a small business as part of the goals. Make a business plan, submit your business plan, look for a location, buy the location, and so on. Just some thoughts :)

Anonymous

For me, I’d like to be able to set my own time to open and close the shop. About 8-12 hours per day maybe? And when the shop is open, I’d love to be able to go about other things. For the task/goal, I don’t mind having them, but having an ability to choose when to do that would be great. I have a question about NPCs and autonomy. Will NPCs come to the shop and buy random things that I put on your Retail Therapy shelf (similar to Littlemssam’s live in business)? Because that would be awesome! However, in her mod, you have to set for sale manually for every item, so your shelf would solve that issue. Really looking forward to this mod. Thank you so much for all these great mods and everything you’ve done :)

Amanda

I would love to be able to be a shop owner. Do you want your shop auto-opened during regular business hours? Yes I think that would be really perfect. Maybe if its possible to have an evening opening option too, say from 4pm to 9pm this is very European. Do you want a task/goal to complete like other work-at home careers where you open your shop for a certain amount of time and you choose when to do that? Yes please, it would make things more interesting. Looking into finding stock perhaps or advertising.

Peach

I use a live in business mod now. The way it works is: it is a lot trait and I can just click any door and open or close my business and no employee is needed, NPCs just spawn and judge my wares lol. You can only sell things you have made or collected with it plus harvestables. So I have a knitter who knits and sells things from her garden shed while she raises her kids. I have a farmer with a pick your own berries and flowers patch. I have a baker who sells cakes and pies and lives upstairs from her bakery and an explorer who sells all the collectibles she finds out of her garage. I love that mod but my point isn't to advertise it, I swear lol. My point is: I'd like something that either works differently or works the same but allows a wider range of products. Also, my baker would love it if she could set things for sale on your Shelf Control shelves, total game changer! Oh and yes, I would love the career option!

ravasheen

its funny i was actually thinking an open/closed sign! so the way it works now its kinda like a holiday or event, so you can end it early by closing out the thing that pops up on the top left. but i was going to have options to open for x amount of hours. maybe give three options?

ravasheen

you are so sweet!! noted about family members/employees. how i have stocking set up is that u actually never need to restock... instead your sims only recieves a percentage of the sale (to cover restocking fees)

ravasheen

yea i kinda used the yard sales as a base! although i didnt like how they were set up. the sims dont really browse and they almost always buy a product. but i think what im going to do is make a sign where you can set your business open/closed for a set amount of hours. and sims will only come between 6 am - 8 pm i think. like they wont come in the middle of the night

ravasheen

yea right now i have it so they can do other things, but they cant leave the lot is all

ravasheen

so glad ur loving llamazon! did u get the updated version! thanks for the ideas!

ravasheen

yea i need to figure out the employee part... i was thinking it should be tied to the career somehow. like as u move up it allows u to employ people

ravasheen

awesome! noted on all your ideas especially things like being able to buy more produce. i would love to add your translation! ill try to send you the strings ahead of time so i can release the translations with it :) hugs

ravasheen

lol so funny that is yur biggest isue with the retail system... there are so many things i hate about it lol! when i was making my first food mod a year ago it took me hours just figure out how to get it setup just so i could test something.

ravasheen

so funny several of you mentioned an open/closed sign because that is what is what i have been testing with. love those task ideas thank you! yea i was thinking another task could be like posting an ad too. i love the product review idea!! and also was thinking u could add employees as u move up. great ideas thank you! also your sim will always be required to be there, like youc ant leave the lot till your sale is over/shop closed. but you can end it early.

ravasheen

yea i think that is how im going to approach it... it is alot less complex and gives you more flexibility!

ravasheen

yea im going to make the career part optional for sure. just if you want to add it to add more realism

ravasheen

ive been use a door open/closed sign for testing!! yea i dont like the GTW setup so this would be a bit different. i was thinking more like the goals for the at home careers like the fashion blogger or whatever. but i like those task ideas!

ravasheen

i never heard of her mod till today but i just looked at it. im not sure exactly how hers works, but it looks like it just for craftables? how mine would work is that you would set surface (shelves tables etc) as retail displays... then sims would come and potentially buy any item slotted to those shelves. they would also browse things a little before buying. yea the goals i was thinking to set them like the at home career. where its like "wwrite an article today" or something like that

ravasheen

yea i was thinking advertising would be a good options for a task!! some of the time is limited by npcs and when they can spawn. but ill double check the hours. i think its like 6 am - 10 pm or something

ravasheen

yea i think someone mentioned this mod above. i was thinking about adding a lot trait but its not really needed. and i think with that mod you can only use certain doors? the way i have mine set up right now is it just unlocks your door for customers when u set your store open. and yes this would work that it would allow you to sell ANYTHING you put on the shelves. and im making it so its not just my shelves, but it will let you mark certain tables as retail displays and then sims will buy anything from those shelves. also instead of having to restock, your sim will just get a percentage of the sale (~50% and maybe more as u advance in the career). this would be realistic to cover stocking fees but then in the case of your baked goods you wouldnt need to constantly rebake them. and also i dont mind at all that you mentioned the mod! its great for me to know what else is out there so 1) i dont just recreate an existing mod and 2) to hear things you like and dont like. its super helpful!

Anonymous

Sales goals for the day would be nice to have on a tiered level based business size aka the level of your "career". Don't want auto opened shop in case its like a 24/7 shop or night time business. Love this idea! I think having set hours defeats the purpose of having your own business so it should be up to the player. I would prefer if my sim has full autonomy other than checking out customers and greeting new customers.

Anonymous

I don't know if this is too late or is even feasible, but is it possible to include cafés and vet clinics in the live-in small business at all? Or is that a different system entirely? Either way, I'm so excited! I've been wanting to be able to make a little live-in village shop in Henford-on-Bagley since I got the pack!

Sam D.

I'm not sure if you mentioned this (there's a lot here!), but this will be set so that when you are not playing the household that own the shop, you can take your active household to the shop during business hours and it will be open and functional? And if the owner Sim has employees maybe they will be running the shop and not the owner? I would definitely want the option not too have to mind the shop all the time. Work at home careers are the ones I like best- where you complete a couple tasks that take a couple hours and then go about your day. I have GTW and have found minding the shop all the time gets boring quickly. Happy to have a small business career but don't want to have to be physically present al the time the shop is open.

Anonymous

I think Ravasheen’s mod probably focuses more on the sale/retail aspect. But if you want to open a cafe or a vet at home, please have a look at Littlemssam’s Live in business mod because it includes café and vet, and even more. I’m not trying to advertise her mod in Ravasheen’s patreon. I’m sorry. But I feel like I should mention it because it could be what you’re looking for.

Anonymous

So I have the Lil Miss Sam mod as well, there are things I like and things that are limited. I've been using it to run a seasonal farm, Pumpkins in the fall, Christmas trees in the winter, Flowers and Berries when its warm, one thing I like is that I can set the plant to sell and the customer just buys the harvestable, and the plant stays put, one thing I don't like is that they wont use the Retail Fridges to buy the milk and eggs. I would love the ability to use the fridges that came with get to work. :) Im really looking forward to this Mod!

Anonymous

What would be neat is if we're able to have "work hours" during times we choose if possible (morning shift, evening shift or graveyard overnight shift) while being able to control when our shop is open and closed once selected. Retail shop in game with GTW is lacking gameplay. I'll love sale generated goals other than "stock the shelves"; so we have something to work towards to beyond shelfing items all day. Is it possible that goals can have levels the more you progress? Maybe if you're a beginner within your shop had haven't been promoted you have to do the basic stuff as in "Advertising your shop" or "Handing out flyers". Those newbie things that really make you feel like you're striving for business. Maybe in your later promotional you'll be able to get exclusive clients (celebrities) or even be granted an interview for your business. Maybe some sort of magazine cover with the Maschino pack could work as well? Heck maybe a photographer stops by later on and just takes a few snaps of your shop which brings in sales (or a critic)!

Dexter Canty

Would there be a way to sell crafted objects? Like larger furniture crafted at the wood working table and the fabrication machine? It sucks to create these objects and only sell them through build/buy.

ravasheen

check out my new post with a demo and update... you can sell literally ~anything~. Well at the moment you can only sell any item that can go into a slot... but before I release it I am going to add a way to set items like furniture/painting etc as sellable too!

ravasheen

Love all of these ideas!! I just posted an WIP demo/preview of all the ideas you all gave me here so far. I have the core done, but now I am working on the small details like this. How I set up restocking is essentially... you don't have to restock. Instead of restocking, the item will always remain but your sim will only get a portion of the sale to cover "restocking" costs. Which means you can set up the shop once and don't have to constantly restock things and getting only partial profit from the sale makes it still realistic. I looked into careers, but I didn't love the way they were set up and confined. So instead I am approaching this in a way that your business/shop does better based on your sims traits/skills and also things they have done. I am going to add an option to advertise online, or manage your shops social media presence, etc. Having certain skills at higher levels, traits, doing work etc will result in more successful sales, more customers, better restocking fees stuff like that! I love love the photographer and critic idea!! I was going to add customer ratings and these would be excellent additions to that!

ravasheen

Check out my demo/update I just posted. Basically, you can sell ~anything~ from ~any object~. The items also lock decay while they are for sale (so they never spoil) AND you never have to replace the item. Instead of it disappearing and having to restock, you sim just gets a portion of the sale value to cover "restocking fees".

ravasheen

Check out the demo/preview I just posted! You can totally build a shop without anyone having to run it. On any lot (even your home lot), put the items in there for sale and your sim can visit anytime and buy the items without any other sim needing to be involved. The at home business part is more like an add on, so if you want to run an at home business you can do that. But the buying items part can run by itself!

Dexter Canty

Awesome! Thank you!

Sims Storyteller

Not sure if anyone said this already but I love the idea of having the option to set hours for the business to be open. I have a bakery and I get so concentrated on trying to get my employees to work or other things that I lose track of the Sim time. Next thing I know it's 2am and my shop is still open. Having something more set would be great!

Anonymous

maybe you can hire employees who will manage it without you but have the option to help them with tasks (like you can at retail lots) as you want to