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Please note that this is an adult conversation about adult topics at a hacking conference that includes bourbon and whiskey. There some f-bombs and adult language, so if that’s a problem for you, please skip this one.

Squeaking this in at the last minute to be still in July! :)

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In this very special Q&A from DefCon25, we have Deviant Ollam as a guest.  Deviant is a world class physical security system expert, who quite literally gets paid to break into secure facilities. While that’s his main focus, it extends well beyond that into firearms, culture and more.  He’s also my friend and therefore a perfect candidate to have on this diversely focused channel we call InRange.  

You’ll find that we don’t agree on everything in this discussion, and you may disagree with one of us as well while watching. That’s fine and healthy. Discuss it appropriately with respect and show your work. A back and forth discourse on volatile topics is essential to a health society and is a quintessential part of true hacker culture!

You can find Deviant Ollam via his website:

http://deviating.net

Questions and Timestamps:

01:15

Michael R

I don’t currently have a question but I wanted to thank you for putting together this Q&A. The tech/firearms rights crossover is extremely exciting to me and I can’t wait to see what you have in store for us.

03:45

Anthony B

Do we think that there will finally be a eureka moment for folks who are very pro-privacy/pro-1st amendment but are anti 2A? 

10:00

Andreas N

Does or should the right to bear arms in the US include viruses and such?

Wiki link for information about Wassenaar:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassenaar_Arrangement

16:43

Jacob R

Are there any particular Schools/Degrees/Certifications that are best for someone looking to get into InfoSec as a potential career?

ISC2 CISSP:

https://www.isc2.org/Certifications/CISSP

OSCP:

https://www.offensive-security.com/information-security-certifications/oscp-offensive-security-certified-professional/

Women in Tech:

https://www.amazon.com/Women-Tech-Practical-Inspiring-Stories/dp/1632170663

25:08

Rant & discussion about everything in life being a hack

27:56

Philip

What is the best security upgrade any hometown can implement / add to their home to deter break-ins while absent? Maybe something not too expensive that is often overlooked.

32:36

Sam S

Regarding physical security in a well thought out and implemented home defense plan, in what layer do firearms fit into the mix and how should they be weighted against other parts of the plan?  

36:45

Side discussion about PGO shotguns and stocks.

Discussion about the use of less lethal vs lethal force in a home defense scenario, mindset and potential psychological damages of such an event.

41:35

BS_Kustomz

Deviant (shut up, I know you’re there), are there any updates to the “packing in the friendly skies” idea given current events? I would love to hear Ian’s and Karl’s opinion on the matter as well.

Deviant’s Packing in the skies video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfqtYfaILHw

Printing TSA Keys with Johnny Xmas, see this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekBT0a3STQ

48:55

Abloy lock reference. If you want real locks, just stop messing around and get Abloys:

http://www.abloyusa.com

50:50

Discussion bout shimming zip ties.

52:20

Much love to the viewers and Patreon supporters here.

52:59

Matthew J

How scary is the growing prevalence of semi-autonomous weapons platforms?

David H

Is/was the Terminator that unrealistic? Not the time travel parts, but the whole concept of technology and how it’s taking/shaping our lives so much more as we move forward.  

Michael B

Is AI a danger to humanity like Bill Gates and Elon Musk think or is this just fear mongering to give the government its change to control it by placing restrictions and regulations on its development?  

55:27

Reference to film Eye in the Sky:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2057392/

59:06

Richard Rhode’s book:

https://www.amazon.com/Making-Atomic-Bomb-25th-Anniversary/dp/1451677618

1:03:00

Jasper W

Should we be concerned about our digital footprints?  

Watch every 2600 Steven Rambam video you’re able to:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=steven+Rambam+2600+video

1:12

Privacy - How important is it?

The concept of privacy becomes so foreign that it becomes obsolete?

1:21

DefCon for kids: “r00tz”:

https://r00tz.org

The future is what we make it.

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Comments

Sean Smith

So many links! I know what I am doing today instead of being "productive". I'm going to get my learn on!

Anonymous

The "drone"/AI discussion makes some very interesting points!

Frank Baud

Really great stuff. I've been following Ollam's stuff for a while. Always good to see Karl rocking the 2600 shirt too.

David Heck

Cant wait to get off of work and watch this

Anonymous

One of your best episodes ever. Listened to parts of it twice.

Anonymous

Karl, is that Tucson scotchs youre drinking? My compliments 😉, interesting program.

Anonymous

Oh man, Deviant is an Altered Carbon fan! Now if only I could buy a Nemex and a Tebbit knife...

Anonymous

I watched this yesterday morning and thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks Karl and DO

Anonymous

Love this - and thanks for the details for the Security Certs - going to look into them for work

Anonymous

Good Q&amp;A I think we need more digital footprint conversations.

Anonymous

I love this. Whiskey and philosophy, That's every Saturday at our house. Well done Karl. Thanks,

Anonymous

So glad I signed up to support you guys! This content was amazing. Keep it up

Anonymous

Karl, Thank you for being so nice to my friend at the DEFCON shoot. (You interviewed her by the port 0 potty). She had a blast and I got excited just hearing her talk about her adventure. She thought you were a great guy. I would have loved to watch the "unfree" take their turns. Thanks for the great content.

InRangeTV

She's in the DC25 shoot video that will be published in the nearish future. :) Thank you!

Anonymous

Outstanding podcast!