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Bad Therapy Rules, Toxic Masculinity, and Homophobia (Patreon)

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2023-01-13 15:00:03
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Dr Kirk and Bob answer your questions.


00:00 Bad Therapy Rules, Toxic Masculinity, and Homophobia

02:23 Why do some therapists write in third person?

19:36 OPP

21:48 What avenues are there for entering the mental health field without post-baccalaureate education?

24:42 Should I bring up past sexual abuse with my father?

28:09 When did Dr. Kirk & Bob first recognize toxic masculinity?


January 13, 2023

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SeattleTransAndNonbinary ChoralEnsemble

I used to wonder about ‘this writer’ and finally figured out why people use it a while back. I was new at this particular agency and submitted a case note for an indirect contact that read something like - [The following email is copied and pasted from correspondence with Colleague Name, *client’s* case manager at (other agency) “I can help *client* get into veteran housing. Have him call me at 555 555 5555.” Received on such and such date and time. Please pass this message on to *client* as he is now on your case load and I am about to leave for the day.] Later that week my supervisor and their boss call me into a private meeting freaking out. At first I’m totally confused when they ask me why I gave my cell phone number to a client as I would never do so for boundary reasons and explain as much. When they mention which client it was, (this was the only interaction I had with them) I finally put two and two together and realize my bosses didn’t read the note thoroughly enough for either of them to notice that I was quoting someone else, who was the one who said “I”, asked the client to call them and shared their number with me via email and that I was only the liaison. If I had done what I was supposed to do, and replaced every incidence of “I” meaning me with TW and “I” meaning the other case manager with [Her Name], there would have been no ambiguity about who was speaking even to an uninvolved party skimming the note (and it is probably safest to write under the assumption that the reader will be too lazy/preoccupied to actually parse what was written carefully even though their uncharitable reading makes zero sense and would be completely out of character for me, or too unobservant to notice that my cell phone number, which my supervisor has in their phone, is different with a completely different area code).

Anonymous

I left my favorite therapist a few months ago and I asked for my therapy notes when I left to give to my new trauma therapist. I felt so hurt reading the notes because of the way in which she wrote them. I saw her for about 2 to 3 years and she wrote the notes in a very distanced manner, as you talked about. It really triggered my disorganized attachment. I was very close to her and I gave her a gift of a painting once I left. It was a hard goodbye, and to see how she wrote the notes stung even more. I know this is just how she was taught to write them (she’s a young therapist) but I couldn’t shake the feeling that she didn’t really care about me or my issues because of the third person and aloof writing. I think it may be more detrimental to write notes in this way rather than beneficial.

PsychologyInSeattle
>>99895957

Yeah, that's awful. On the other hand, I would have had a conversation with your therapist before reading your file because there's probably no way around that feeling for distance - even if it was written with love. We write notes in 20 seconds in between sessions. So there's not going to be much love in the note.