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Episode 195: The Russia House (Patreon)

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2021-11-17 15:18:57
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2024-03-05 15:37:20
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We’re joined by the frequently frustrated Aaron Maté to talk about the arrest of Igor Danchenko and the long, absolutely insane saga of the Steele Dossier.

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KYZ

Is Jimmy sore going to feature soon?

Mark Owen

Russia Russia Russia!

Everett Woolsey

🚨🚨🚨🚨 Does this mean TrueAnon is an op? I am starting to feel spoked

John Frie

Drop the merch or I’ll murder my family

ImTheTrapDurpina

Has Mate been on before? I feel like this is long overdue.

lilfukka

Love Aaron !

ImTheTrapDurpina
>>71984772

I hope not, he's not very funny and while I occasionally agree with him (like Force The Vote) a lot of his stuff is just garbage to pander to internet quacks.

Gavin Farrell

Normie libs still have Russia on the brain. This is going to die hard.

Sam GL .

Niiice

KYZ
>>71984772

Dore is pure garbage and brings on guests like Mate and Blumenthal on to bolster his grift left credentials

Tristan
>>71984772

The only people more annoying than Dore fans are the nerds who spend all day complaining about him

Allyson Hurst

ngl tho mccain being involved in the dossier was fucking hilarious just for the pettiness

AJS

re: Liz early comment on NSA. I've had this Ed Snowden tweet saved since he posted it 7/25/16... https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/757573436059287552?t=SrLjcsLkxYKLfQg7QFqUIA&s=19

AJS
>>71986685

this thread... https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/757579983653072896?t=1P9vamu9BJ4B1IxiSMR9wQ&s=19

DogCrunch

It was weird as hell when Buzzfeed was criticized for releasing the Steele Dossier as if every other outlet wasn’t jumping at their own bullshit “bombshells”

Samuel Feder

I have a friend whose parents are lost to MSNBC. He calls Rachel their favorite child. They will not stop talking about Soviet trickery and Cheeto Hitler

Michael

This guy has a sexy voice

Karl Childers
>>71984772

knew people were gonna go full TwiTtEr DisCoUrSe when they saw this guest. was instantly proven right.

KYZ
>>71984772

nice prediction bro you should tweet about it

JJ Gonzalez

An underrated detail of the Maddow Russiagate crap in my opinion is that she won a fucking Grammy for the audio version of her book about Russiagate. I felt so insane when I learned that.

c_stenzy
>>71984772

I get that twitter wrongthink kills all nuance in online discussion, but it's possible for both Jimmy Dore to be an idiot and the people who appear on his show to not be 100% wrong about everything. Plus Aaron seems to have greatly differing opinions from Max regarding vaccines, assuming that's what this fuss is about.

Jon

Meanwhile in the UK, the Prime Minister's sister just wrote an article about how she "feels pity" for Ghislaine Maxwell, describing how at university she once walked into a room to find Ghislaine "astride a table, a high-heeled boot resting on my brother Boris’s thigh"

Jordan Wright

They recently closed that AMC on South Van Ness

Gavin Farrell
>>71988688

My parents are going to be hard to break too. They were Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman watchers.

Jordan Wright

Correction: it just has a different name now

Robert Cullimore

Someone who definitely built a career off the back of Russiagate was Mate, “Trump dumped his plans for helping the working class because of the deep state” Bitch please this lad is a joke

J Flaxman
>>72000203

Yeah, pretty fuckin' rich, eh!? Huge bummer that this week's show was/is wasted on this talentless hack.

Mike Penix
>>72000203

Many of the listeners of this podcast refuse to understand what this podcast is trying to tell us

Mike Penix

That Mueller song is some straight shah pack

Camille Shultz

Biggest coup and harm of Russiagate was getting liberals to support and promote the activities of the security state. Un-fuckin-believable!

Dylan Bartholomew
>>72000203

lol you might want to listen to that bit again, I think you missed what he actually said.

Elephants On Coke
>>71984772

Tristan, Karl, et al are all correct. KYZ is just brainwashed shit-lib trash. Go stan for AOC

Drew Crean

11:27 I heard that

BruceInAdelaide
>>71994742

weirdly, there is an informed speculation going around, not that BoJo is "normal", but that all the rest of the Tories, are actually even more fucked up!

BruceInAdelaide
>>71985944

yes, constant repetition of even such an obvious lie, leads to neural connections being habitually connected, similar to 'muscle memory'.

George P
>>71988688

my father's completely gone. I was trying to get him to vote for Bernie in the 2020 primary and he dismissed all the candidates as the "20 little idiots" and said it was a shame Adam Schiff wasn't running because Schiff was "doing the real work holding Trump accountable."

BruceInAdelaide

Aaron Mate and the whole crew at Grayzone are a treasure trove of investigative journalism. The dying, and lying 'legacy media' deserve only contempt.

Max Schultz

I heard that Russian agents got Hunter on the crack.

kmd

It's insane how easy it was for Russiagate to distract people from how bad Trump was at being a criminal 😆

Joshua Baker

Russiagate was a joke and clearly fake but I’d say the same about Aaron Maté and Grayzone. I can’t take either seriously and quite frankly both are incredibly damaging to the Left. Both serve to blur the conversation, distract us from real issues, and all for a quick dollar. Grayzone is on same level as Lincoln Project. Total clown show. TrueAnon can get better people on about Russiagate.

Joshua Baker
>>72000203

Totally agree and it’s a bad look for TrueAnon to be associated with Grayzone in any capacity. Grayzone is a hus meant to suck in gullible people with poorly if sourced at all sensationalist crap that passes for journalism. Clowns

Joshua Baker
>>72027972

They don’t do journalism. Their work is poorly sourced and drives false narratives in Syria in addition to their domestic stories that slant to right and undermine the Left as a genuine project. Association with Jimmy Dore who platforms them is also pathetic given his anti vaxxed BS. They also targeted Cori Bush when she was doing her protest and promoting it as journalism on Twitter when what they were doing was chasing clicks, clout, and $. Go to Maté’s Twitter profile, he’s attacking Ana Kasparian as if she’s Rachel Maddow. Regardless of anyone’s opinion on Kasparian, is really pathetic to be attacking her based on entirely false information especially when the problem is not TYT but the collapse of our entire society and planet. Grayzone muddies the water, blurs truth, and will not disclose who bankrolls their site. Total clown show and frauds. Bad look for TrueAnon

Joshua Baker
>>72027972

Running joke with Grayzone is the only references they provide in articles are links to other Grayzone articles 🤣🤣🤣

Joshua Baker
>>72027972

Ironic y’all telling me I’m too online but you defending the online publication, Grayzone. Also ironic a defender of Grayzone is demanding citations. LOL!!! If y’all defend Grayzone the joke’s on you.

Brian Long

Ok I’m only a few minutes in… but Trumps deep ties to Russia are very real. I’m open to y’all changing my mind, but the Trumps have openly admitted they are financially tied to Russia… so there’s gotta be a middle ground here.

Brian Long
>>72033809

What I’m taking about is separate from Steele. I’ll give you Steele being BS. But we can’t just pretend a Trump and Russia relationship isn’t real.

Brian Long

What leftists were saying not to fire Sessions? I don’t remember that.

Brian Long
>>72033809

Why are we working so hard to give Trump the benefit of the doubt here?

Brian Long

I’m going to stop commenting on this episode and just listen, but I think y’all are coming from a real place of privilege to not understand how awful Trump was to minority populations in this country. It’s not insane to think Trump, an intentional businessman with mob ties, to be deeply connected to Putin. Come on.

TheRhinehart86

Dude Grayzone is straight up Russian propaganda, they accused Brace of being a CIA asset for fighting with the Kurds lol

Matelda
>>72027972

The only concrete things you said to discredit Mate were that he disrespected another journalist and a US rep on twitter. Without knowing anything else about it I'd say you're the one who doesn't sound serious.

Bong Bong
>>72027972

No, TrueAnon can't get anyone better on about Russiagate. Aaron Mate is the go-to guy. And Jimmy Dore is great, precisely because he's critical about the Covid mandate B.S. the Left is really wrong about.

Bong Bong
>>72033809

Did you listen to the episode? Have read anything Aaron Mate has ever written? Or Matt Taibi? You can indeed pretend the Trump/Russian relationship isn't real, because it isn't real. It never was. You were lied to.

noah
>>72034469

Trump is directly responsible for millions of deaths of his own supporters. There's no need to make an appeal to idpol, it's just dumb for anyone to believe that Trump/family members didn't take full advantage of being POTUS and took money from all kinds of shady people.

Bryden

Who sent all the pro AOC Adam Schiff sycophants to the Epstein deep state conspiracy podcast you're melting their little libcuck minds

Jonathan lees

Be cool everybody this is good stuff the stuff that nightmares come from☮️

Jonathan lees

Learn to surf quick you fuckers

Jonathan lees

Good luck Austin godbless the butt hole surfers now that was an American export arrrhhh

Jonathan lees

Surf is a fancy word for swim or keep above it this will a long lap

Alec Smalley
>>72034027

Haha if you don’t remember that shut your goldfish-memory ass up! It was hilarious!

BROTHER TO BROTHER
>>72034641

yes Aaron is actually playing mind games with Brace, always one step ahead, he is gonna take the agent down, you are so close to the nucleus baby! don't stop! you got this!

BROTHER TO BROTHER

Joshua and your weird liberal friends, please go away. I am here for truth, not whining.

Robert Cullimore
>>72033809

Brace touched on it, but to not even mention Felix Sater and the massive amount of laundry going on there is pretty telling

2Liter Bong

Aaron matte sucks.

BruceInAdelaide
>>72034641

Brace and Max Blumenthal ought to engage in a respectful, evidence based exchange of ideas and arguments. We need to keep open dialogue on the left.

Kompromatic
>>72027972

Grayzone might be sus and I’m willing to hear the evidence but you really haven’t provided anything but your own subjective opinion of it

William
>>72034469

You're pretty retarded if you think Trump is special in this regard. You act like the kids are out of the cages now, or that black wealth didn't evaporate after Obama bailing out the banks at the expense of those minorities. How many deaths there bucko?

William
>>72027972

Cool story, dipshit, thanks for letting me know your stupid ass opinion. Why the fuck should I care this is a fucking podcast

Lydia Maria Child
>>72000203

Aaron made a decent living as a journalist doing actual critical reporting. Rachel Madow makes more than that in just a couple days of her dumbass neolib propaganda. But yeah, let's blame Aaron here. You neolibs are fucking DUMB. Not to mention intellectually dishonest.

Lydia Maria Child
>>72006841

Absolutely. Good luck trying to get one of them to acknowledge this. They got played like complete dumbfucks, and can't admit it. Hence the outrage against anyone who does actual reporting on this and other subjects. Bizarre behavior and sad.

Lydia Maria Child
>>72027972

Jimmy Dore is fully vaccinated you fucking moron. Go watch your tv shows and be dumb elsewhere. Did you know you can be pro-vaccine and anti-mandate? Nuance, what is it? You neolib morons are so fucking dumb. Despite all your degrees and PMC certifications.

Lydia Maria Child
>>72033809

Trumps ties to Russia are no different to any other international criminal relationships of the elite political class. Clintons' ties to Russia are far worse. But lets not talk about that I guess. Russia!

Lydia Maria Child
>>72034027

Democrats and neoliberals are not "leftists". Let's start there please, and work up from a strong foundation. Words...how do they work?

Benjamin Coke

On Aaron's point about one of the biggest anti-trump protests during his admin was the firing of Jeff sessions, my hometown had 2 anti-trump protests. The first, when Jeff sessions visited the federal court offices in our downtown a small group of people went to protest him being there and the admins immigration policies. I walked by and saw my highschool sociology teacher there with a "Fuck Sessions" sign. The second was outside the court house when Jeff Sessions was fired, and I swear I am not fucking with you guys, my teacher was also there and she had crossed out the "fuck sessions" and wrote "fuck trump" on the otherside. This protest also happened in GA while Brian Kemp was in the midst of literally stealing an election and a major secretary of state's office was two blocks away with no one outside protesting...

Torgeir Tannenwald
>>72033809

god dammit Id never thought Id engage in anything like this on a Patreon thread but as Mark Ames said Russiagate really broke peoples brains didnt it. What president or elected powerful leader ever hasnt had ties to entities they shouldnt have. What is the difference between this and the endless sucking up to Israel or Saudi Arabia(except the two latter actually influencing foreign policy), or any private industries that get favours in place of the electorate. You should move on man.

rei

the trueanon comments section..... not even once.

Benjamin Coke
>>72054950

PS Thanks for giving us all some ammo for Thanksgiving with lib relatives :)

Carl Harrison
>>72027972

We get it, Joshua Baker. You really don't like to have MSNBC or any other anti imperialist message questioned. Stooge.

Robert Cullimore
>>72000203

Woah Carl got out the wrong side of the bed much?! I’m afraid I don’t watch Maddow or anything on MSM so you may want to guess as you don’t have a clue who I am as to which boots I might want to lick next

pod accoster

Believing Russia produced the Russia gate conspiracy theory is totally in line with what all the people on social media accusing anyone criticizing anything media or gov or advocating for Bernie of being a Russian bot. The line I saw repeated over and over was that Russia’s aim is chaos (I.e., discussion of any issue of contention).

ClownBabee24

Nobody cares about your twitter beefs with obscure media figures, you lib dorks. I listen for new info about deep state workings, and Russiagate is one of the largest examples of deep state propaganda

ClownBabee24
>>72034469

Hes responsible for a lot of deaths, but millions? Where the hell are you getting those numbers man?

K

Why exactly did James Comey, a man with ties to Bridgewater and Lockheed-Martin, seemingly leverage his influence to get Trump elected, and later turn against him? Was he trying to play both sides in a path to glory?

Behold 666

Great episode. Mate and the Grayzone people are a bit of an enigma to me, but this was a fantastic discussion.

Randy Hendrickson

Two of my favorite things. Aaron Mate and TrueAnon. Do any of you folks remember that EmpyWheel person and her RussiaGate blog? Hoe lee shit... Week after week of thumbtack and corkboard mass psychosis. The walls were always closing in for her and her acolytes.

Matt

Man I wish the world was good so we could just listen to Brace be funny funny and not hear about this bad stuff!!

Neill Hutchings

It's not a physical server guys, it's common practice to take an image and not rip up a physical server which doesn't really exist in the way you imagine it does. Lay off ma boys at crowd strike. But every APT does everything possible at all time so it's in no way telling that the DNC was a target, it'd be dumb to ignore them

George P
>>72084025

oh god I forgot about her. didn't she rat out one of her sources to the FBI because she thought the source was involved in Russiagate? classic.

JV

Amazing episode. All the episodes are good. My favourite podcast and you're good and funny and I like listening and it's always nice and good thank you

Noah Mingus

Big fan Brace Liz and Y. Chompy, just want to share this with ya'll. On that Great Reset tip. I like Liz's takes, I think your inferences were enlightening... Anyways Here is this paper from blackrock, Larry Finks joint https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/insights/blackrock-investment-institute/publications/global-macro-outlook/august-2019 And here is a video by a guy I've followed for a long time now: John Titus https://youtu.be/VYOEvurCVuk Liz, your take follows along what Arendt says about totalitarianism's life span (ie. It's short). Xo all of you

Chad

It’s getting harder to find specific stuff at the grocery store sometimes BUT the Stealie/Bolt collar I ordered my dog arrived in less than 24 hours to my front door.

Joshua Baker
>>72027972

Amazing that y’all think that as a paying patron of TrueAnon who thinks Russiagate was a fucking joke from the start watches MSNBC and worships Rachael Maddow. Y’all on some crazy ass shit! Grayzone openly provokes harassment on Twitter of women. There’s no room for that on the Left and if you think there is, get the fuck off the train What Grayzone does on Twitter is the EXACT online bullshit TrueAnon criticizes as evidenced by their ep 2 weeks ago about the problems with social media. That’s the basis of my criticism. I love this show and feel obligation to call bullshit when I see it. It’s what Liz and Brace do and I’m doing the same. Association with Grayzone is a bad look btw a lot has changed in the last 12 months online. Since end of Bernie people chasing clicks and clout. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Jessica S
>>72084025

I loved reading Marcy, but I couldn’t abide the inanity of Russiagate. I don’t have to agree with everything I read or listen to, but the one thing I look for is consistency of reason: if they don’t apply the same logic across the board, I have no time for it. There was and is plenty of rational reasons to despise Trump but for some people it went beyond logic to pure delusion. Trump derangement syndrome is no joke.

Jessica S
>>72054950

The rehabilitation of Sessions was something to see. Also, it’s good to see that shitty teachers don’t always pass along their shitty thinking. For my kids’ sake, I’m banking on the fact that school is too boring for anyone to retain the nonsense they’ll learn in upper grades.

Jessica S

Mr. Maté! I just listened to him on Matt Taibbi and Katie Halper’s show. Great work at the GZ, and also Moderate Rebels.

Nicolas

Its rediculous... I posted a spotify link to this episode in a comment section on Facebook and it literally got censored by facebook because of "community standards"

William
>>72087750

We all do. not trying to be that guy, or steal from Tolkien, but you need to develop the ability to stomach these things. We can't afford to look away just be it's uncomfortable

William
>>72076606

Problem with your logic is that Hillary supports giving money to all the same people

William
>>72074276

Oh man, look out for this hard commie motherfucker. Fuck off with your play acting bullshit

William
>>72027972

Your problem is that you think trueanon having 1 person on to speak about their area of expertise means trueanon supports and endorses everything else that 1 person does. They've had people on who work for lib news outlets, were you complaining then?

K
>>72076606

That's precisely my point. Bridgewater and Lockheed-Martin employees and board favored Hillary. So why would James Comey not follow suit and favor Hillary? I'm asking 'cause it doesn't make sense unless he's a careerist trying to play both sides.

ligia a

Aaron rocks. thank you for finally having him on

Josef Blagesklavienski

One of my favourite quirks of this pee gate story is that the Infamous “tape” was mad by an Irish comedian and podcasted called Blindboy Boatclub. Starts at 28:45 https://youtu.be/48mWSU5UKao 🇮🇪

George P
>>72076606

Comey figured after the Access Hollywood tape Hillary would win in a landslide and wanted to give the public impression the FBI wouldn't roll over for Hillary once she was president.

Rocky Raccoon

Cool episode to re-listen to now with the present Ukraine kerfuffle

Michael S. Judge

The music in this one is the closest Chomsky has ever come to a 1978 ELO chart-topper