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Episode 155: JFK 101 (Pt. 3 of ???) (Patreon)

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2021-05-03 02:13:12
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2024-03-04 16:32:08
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Joined once again by Ben (@housetrotter) & Aaron Good (@aaron_good_) we take a look at the life of Lee Harvey Oswald—the agent & the patsy.

Peter Dale Scott

Jim DiEugenio's 25-part series on Destiny Betrayed, with Dave Emory

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Anon Ibid

Finally yall mention Thornley but dont mention Discordianism...

Anon Ibid

Edwin Walker had crazy feud with the Kennedy brothers and also ran against John Connally. There are theories he was heavily involved in the assassination.

Kasz

Foist

Dan Greene

Jesus Fucking Khrist

Nick

You guys are saying milieu a lot lately

Laura

cold open was poifect

Anonymous

Does anyone have a link to the Marina Oswald-Jessie Ventura interview that was referenced?

Jessica S

Ah, what a way to end the evening. Thanks guys, so good as always!

Frank Cold

But why would the CIA name their plane after an Irish punk band huh?!

Michael S. Judge

The Ferrie/Oswald unit of the Civil Air Patrol also included Charles F. Rogers, a CIA pilot (and possibly one of the Three Tramps in Dallas) who would return to his parents' house after the JFK assassination, lock himself in his childhood room for 2 years, then emerge, murder his parents, and disappear in Central America (Guatemala, I think) on CIA assignment

MD

You guys gonna do a show/series on the other 60s assassinations? I would be very interested in one on MLK.

Michael S. Judge

Ooh, the only George who could ever handle me Was the son of a Tsarist oilman He was, yes, he was

SwagMasta420

Caleb has such a beautiful singing voice 😍🎵 weeeeeeeee uuuuu I am gonna kill Joe Biden🎶

yerrak

Really getting into the shmeat of it here. Love it, thanks y’all.

Anonymous

It’s okay to be the the the t

Anonymous

Let's go!

Brian Long

Reeeeeallly solid ep.

Kasz

If Brace and Liz ever get assassinated I will consider avenging their deaths depending on how good this series pans out.

Anonymous

Love you guys so much, thank you for all your hard work!!!

Doug Cartel

LOL I remember a teacher of mine talking about how a CIA recruiter approached them and when they said they were interested in joining the recruiter was like "ok well first off we have to get you divorced and remarried to create the paperwork for our cover story for you" and they immediately got cold feet and backed out

Kasz

The CIA has a memorial for "fallen" CIA officers that just represents them as nameless stars. Lee Harvey Oswald has two of them.

Doug Cartel

all right that was fucking exhausting to listen to im going to bed to process all this

Donnacha O'Brien

All good except the bit on the carcano. The rifle is fine accuracy wise. The issue was US gun users loading similar sized but incorrect ammunition.

Anonymous

damn, 2 hours of JFK stuff. we eatin good, fam

Michael

What’s the blog Brace mentions at 39:25? Sounds like visup or something

Will Watson

just signed up for a john newman counterterrorism class next semester thanks trueanon

Anonymous

I’m surprised Family of Secrets by Russ Baker wasn’t recommended.

Neil Harris

I'll be glad when this JFK jerk-off-athon is over. Alex Cockburn, Chomsky, Howard Zinn to name just a few venerable leftist thinkers tried to steer people away from this senseless morass. The left has wasted so much time and energy on chasing its own tail with this nonsense. The cia has said they stoke these conspiracy theories for that very reason.

will michel

i just wrapped the 25-part interview with jim dieugenio before the trueanon jfk series and i highly recommend it to others, helped me with a lot of the names and places and timelines and whatnot. one person not yet mentioned is richard case nagell, possibly my favorite bit player in this whole brouhaha. claims to have fired a couple of shots into the ceiling of an el paso bank just before the assassination to give himself an alibi (and protection) because he knew what was about to go down, iirc. even if not true, still hilarious

will michel
>>59075552

pretty convenient time to start taking the cia at their word tho

Doug Welch

Dave Emory put me on the path to being a fan of ol’Grampa Pisspig!!!

Anonymous

Based on Wikipedia under Michael Paine, his daughter's name is Lynn Paine (b. 1959)

Anonymous

Please do a pod on bitclout

Kate Baldwin

Hope y'all are throwing some of that sweet sweet patreon cash at Ben and and Aaron Good! They have been awesome.

Anonymous
>>59076541

Also Nagell might be the guy who first led Garrison down the bathhouse fascism path

Joshua Baker

Spectacular EP!!! Y'all are doing incredible work!

Anonymous

The DiEugenio 25-part interview is bingeable. I am bingeing it

Anonymous

NO laughs for the ‘Belden Goodbye’? Tough crowd.

Char Kelly

the unhinged energy at the VERY end *chefs kiss*

Anonymous

Harv on the Radio. Band Name. Called it.

Lauren Cabral

The part of the congressional commission and Allen Dulles being a threat reminded me of that scene from the Godfather Part II where Michael Corleone shows up to the Senate hearings on the mob and the guy shuts up immediately after seeing him.

Anonymous

big dave emory fan here for the last 4-5 ears listening on the WFMU hosted podcast version of the show. Would like to hear more about him from you Bay Area tinfoil heads

Anonymous

a lot of missed joke possibilities based around conflating U2 the band and U-2 the plane

J Vito

y’all should totally dig into that Bob Dylan song “Murder Most Foul” that came out last year... it’s fascinating

Anonymous

https://youtu.be/ojLr-9M77lE

Anonymous
>>59180853

There isn’t enough money in the world to get me to listen to Bob Dyldo

Will Erokan
>>59180853

Check out Mae Brussell.. She covered the topic extensively until she died of 'fast acting cancer' in 1988.

Anonymous

When are you going to do a yarn-and-thumbtack evidence board listing and connecting all these names you're throwing out? It's really hard to keep track. I'm sure with a bit of meth and Liz's adult supervision, Brace could crank it out in an afternoon!

Jimothy Realname
>>59310140

From what I've heard of meth, you can indeed take an entire afternoon to crank one out

Anonymous

....volunteer service project for 'em?

John
>>59310140

I’m the same. Find it difficult to keep track.

Jack Caldwell

damn dude i took a class with john newman and everyone hated it but i thought he ruled. glad to know that he’s got this broader recognition

Juliette DeMaso

Appreciating the Dr Strangelove references; that film should be required viewing.

Michael S. Judge

Of all the things to discuss, I just can't stop thinking: God damn, Lee Harvey Oswald was a ROUGH 24

Michael S. Judge

All the baristas *I* know ended up at NASA. But they were also members of the Nazi Party from 1933 to 1945 and spent the war doing rocket research at Peenemünde, so