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Episode 82: Shoot Me In St. Louis (Patreon)

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2020-07-11 07:56:14
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2024-03-04 15:29:43
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Author Devin O’Shea joins us to detail the incredible history of St. Louis’ Veiled Prophet Society, a fascinating tale that begins with the emergence of the KKK before touching the midwest’s rich history of bloody labor battles and deep segregation, its monied Aristocracy, and the culprits behind mass global chemical warfare.

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Anonymous

Are yall sleeping enough? Enough water and sun during the day?

Anonymous

Brace is extremely wrong about bell peppers

Tommy York

Brace telling harsh truths about bell peppers

DumbDumDumbDumb

Brace revealing he doesn't know how to prepare and/or season vegetables with his bell pepper take

Anonymous

I just found out a family friend was one of the women who crashed the VP Ball in the 70s. Wild to hear this epi hit so close to home

iceland

Green peppers are fine/inoffensive. All other bell peppers are great

Anonymous

Demolish the veiled prophet!

Michael S. Judge

Like a warty fruit. Like a little warty guy.

Stephen Wells

My now departed friend, who was formerly a long time shop teacher, showed me how to fill a rubber glove with acetylene gas and ignite it. Such a sound! Dont try this at home.

Peter T.

Bell peppers are great and green bell peppers are my favorite pizza topping

Titivilis

What we need is a Third Way for bell pepper politics.

BoYeV

Hey great episode. Unrelated but topical request, I’d love to hear you guys discuss the news about Wayfair that’s going around, and the connection to “philanthropic” (we all know what that’s for) organizations like Baptist Children and Family Services which are deeply implicated in child detention and, well, allegedly, other activities...

Anonymous

Listening from St. Louis and really enjoyed this episode. I love my city because it wears its ugliness on its sleeve and it’s full of beautiful working class people trying to make it better. The history of St. Louis is haunting but being reminded of our strong history of labor activism gives me hope for the future. And yeah...the arch does kind of look like a boob.

Jordi

Wilmington Delaware has similar delmar divides, really messed up stuff

lubacious

OMG The sample from Doug...

Rene Saller

Why does the guest keep referring to the Queen of Love and Peace? It's the Queen of Love and Beauty.

Rene Saller

https://commonreader.wustl.edu/c/uneasy-past-veiled-prophet-organization/

Anonymous

Veiled profit society, more like.

Anonymous

For all those cardinals-heads out there, my dumb racist uncle was part of the VP and said Lou Brock was a member.

Roger Peet

Don't forget Mallinckrodt, who refined uranium for the Manhattan project, the waste from which was dumped in a landfill which is currently on fire and has been so for several years

uya

100 gecs r from st louis

Jack

This man has clearly never had a baked summer squash with a little salt and pepper

Anonymous

wow, nathan fielder is huge get for true anon. respect.

Odd Mushroom

bell peppers are good fuck to brace

malpertuis

Profile more secret threads of cities' histories - Brilliant stuff!

Michael S. Judge

Listening to this again, I would re-emphasize the Kempers, not just Ellie. If you're a Missourian, the Kempers likely have significant control over your life, because they run several of the biggest banks around here, and a lot of public institutions (the Kansas City Public Library, for instance) depend on their money. I've never been able to establish this 100% conclusively, but I *think* the Kemper banking fortune was based on a massive sale of slaves by the Kemper patriarch – Missouri had a bizarre status in the Civil War, in which it didn't secede but also kept its slaves, so if you were a slaveowning magnate, you had to make your money quick when Emancipation came calling. The Kempers also co-owned Harry Truman, along with the Kansas City Mafia, particularly the Pendergast Machine: after Truman's clothing store went bust, the Kempers gave him the banking and stock exchange jobs that helped set him up for politics, in which he served as frontman for their interests and for those of the Mob (and there's a lot to be unearthed here about Missouri Masons, as well).

Julian

Nobodies having abortions?

uya
>>41536592

Funnily enough, the lead actress from unbreakable Amy Schmitt is a Kemper and is in the news for winning the pageant in 1999. Instantly brought me back to this episode

Anonymous
>>41536592

Same here, I read years ago that she came from an uber rich family. but didn't know much else. It was silly to drag her for some silly pageant she won when she was a teenager. I think by that time that particular debutante ball tried to conceal their KKK, White supremacy affiliations.

Michael S. Judge
>>41536592

If you're from Missouri (as I am), or from any other state near the St. Louis-into-Illinois line, it's next to damn impossible not to know what the Veiled Prophet Ball is, who runs it, and what it stands for. Now, it's probably true that Ellie Kemper was expected to participate, was expected to feel honored by winning, etc., etc., but there's *no way* you can see photos of the VP pageant (much less walk around inside it) without getting terrible KKK + Yellow King vibes. It's obvious, and I mean *obvious*, what's happening there. Someone should ask her what happens to all the 18-year-old debutante Queens of Love and Beauty after they're paired up with the 70-year-old corporate and political gorgons who become Veiled Prophets. The last VP to be unmasked in public was the executive vice president of Monsanto (at the time).

Connor Sick

this is my favorite TA episode