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Liam Payne is dead and yall are being...unserious (Patreon)

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2024-10-19 01:08:55
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Nyaamar

the way i was devastated when you deleted this 😭

Art Moroyoqui

What did you not want us to hear? 😩

l.

like they were just cracking jokes about his plastic surgery job just last year cut it outttt

tanieah

THANK YOU!! the performance of it all was so strange. just earlier this week a post went viral abt how everyone in the group hated him.. they made fun of him for years.. hes an abuser (allegedly)..?? “im grieving for my past self” YALL DONT KNOW THE MAN.

Chantiel McKeiver

The popular opinion thing and not “being in the know” about certain discourses and stuff is very much a Tik Tok/Twitter thing. What makes it strange is that being opinionated, or shall I say hyperopionated lol, in this way is almost moralized or seen as normal. Like there’s things we agree are “good” and “bad”. And if you like a “bad” song (for example) people go nuts but it’s like… this isn’t a matter of politics or anything important… this is just about trite stuff like shoes or hair color and stuff. People are forming such strong opinions about things they possibly otherwise would be indifferent about OR actually like! And it’s all bc a Tik Tok that got 100k likes or a Tweet told them they should care/hate it! lol.

Sara

Ya know what’s crazy? Louis Tomlinson has been successfully touring and literally sold out the O2 arena last year. He just isn’t chasing global hits. Like I tune in every now and then and he’s like “I’m a better songwriter than singer, but I can put on a show. I just want to make enough money to do that for the rest of my life”…occasionally I like a song but unless you’re checking for him you’d never know…

C

The bear FTW. Not talking about the show.

tanieah

thats why i tweeted i wonder what ppl gon do when chris brown die.. bc watch some of the same ppl who claim they hate him gon be fake sad on the internet crying abt him being in their childhood OR ppl who dont really gaf abt his abusive behavior gon do the most to prove they hated him..

Imani Branch

“someone turns they camera like this and all of a sudden it’s ’bestie pop!’” 😭

Reyhan

My favorite patreon video.. I’ve never felt so seen.. I need people in my life to hear this. I’m not on TikTok either & it drives me up a WALLL when I see people just talk tiktok-opinion & no real opinion. Millennials are the most impressionable I want to fucking scream at them but whenever I say a rebuttal or I pushback they look at me crazy…. I’m fed up .

Iv

What you said about mourning or grief is LITERALLY so true. Like unless you were truly actively staying and thinking about Liam for the entire time since 1D.... let's be serious, you cANNOT be that sad about it

Imani Branch

Also it makes me think of the rise of being ‘anti contrarian’. Hell, I even accuse myself of being contrarian whenever I see a popular belief being spread online and I’m immediately iffy about it. But, isn’t that good? Isn’t it good that we interrogate ideas that spread like wildfire through the internet? Have different opinions? There’s nuance to this of course, but yeah

Imani Branch

I know I’m commenting a lot but this video really made me think. Bc I am on TikTok a lot (mainly for cat videos and video game streams), so I’m really thinking about how I may or may not participate in this type of groupthink. Because what you’re saying is very true. Many such thoughts

tanieah

i love your videos so bad. you say exactly what i be thinking & articulate it so well 😂 i applaud you bc when i try to explain my thoughts i talk in circles

Vic

Off the point but Chile.... that white lady had to tuck her stomach in to get in that car LMAO

Solomon

“turn they phone like this and now they bestie-pop….BESTIE-POP” 😭

Sammy J

Accidentally played Kenya out loud at the hospital’s ER…and people looked! They know wisdom when they hear it

Jordan

Now why my wig got tugged on when kenya said “in da clerb we all fam yall look stupid”😭😭😭

Diana

I will admit that I messaged old friends that I went to 1d concerts with. We reminisced mostly about the band itself as a whole rather than focusing on Liam bc he just wasn't a good person so I agree "grief" is too strong a word. It was mostly reflecting as you said that wow, this is life dsndnd ppl are gonna die. But to hop on twitter and do think pieces about grieving this man? Ridiculous.

taylor

THANK YOU KENYA!!! its so easy to anthropomorphize "fame" and "celebrity" rather than have a genuine conversation that they're concepts that can't exist without active input from the audience. I hate that the comments on Liam have been "he was crying for help and you all just watched" yet they turn around in the next video to dogpile chapell roan the 5th week in a row??? be so fr rn...

Jordan

Kenya got me looking within to see if I really need TikTok and Twitter

Jordan
>>152741201

No like she got me I was like maybe I need to make some changes lol

Danielle

My mom is chronically online but she’s on instagram reels all night 😭 she hasn’t adopted Tik tok yet. But luckily her algorithm is just all ballet videos and puppies

Sarah Uwagbai

Wait so jaguar right has not been saying the truth all along?

Gwendolyn Hampton

Why I thought the “in da clerb” thing was from Twitter till you said this and now I’m just now seeing the sound on Instagram 😭😭

Dany King

Seeing people on social media cry genuine tears about some person they’ve never met will always blow me like What are y’all grieving actually.. I’ve never understood that, even as a child. And now add that the person was an abusive ass and I’m truly left questioning everything cuz huh he can’t be that important in your daily life surely

Jayden Brown

girl I recently learned the latest conservative conspiracy theory is that democrats controlled the weather to create the recent hurricanes. In order to “hurt republican states”. My friend said that her dental hygienist was telling her mom the conspiracy theory and it’s real and all over social media. They’ve been saying this when interviewed at Trump’s rallies. They said our own government is attacking its own country with bad weather, but only the democrats are responsible of course. Like it’s so stupid you can’t even begin to comprehend the level of delusion. They think we in Cloudy with a Chance of Meetballs like OMG. It has to be a titkok rabbit hole

Brianna Barr

I wasn’t going to watch this video because I’m not a 1D fan and I knew nothing about Liam till a week ago, but I’m glad I watched this because it has made me realize how much misinformation and performance is peddled online. It’s getting to a point where I’ve been trying to wane myself off of social media and start going out more. I’m an introvert who is usually a homebody that likes to be in my personal space, but it’s getting to point for me with seeing how being online has changed drastically from when I first got on to now with more racism, sexism, etc.

beeg

“I’d even give you Niall” 😭

Lilac S.
>>152758802

It's crazy cause I heard my Auntie spew the same conspiracy but in reverse. That Republicans are the ones "controlling the weather." It really shocked me how she thought it made so much sense. Like, I never knew that was the new nonsense conspiracy until she brought it up. They REALLY believe this stuff.

Beverly Burgess

All of this is why I deleted Twitter. It’s a fantasyland of stupidity.

Arie Tv

That is so funny i was telling my friends how my grandma saying things like weird and Lifing shows she on social media more than me (I have patreon, YouTube and Twitch) and how i wish she would berate me with a dictionary. She showed me a really pretty picture and i said oh is that AI she said oh i didn’t even think that. Them i learned my cousin is an AI artist. Loooord the elders *sigh*

ann

Im of the mind that two things can be true at the same time. I don’t see the issue with people being sad someone who work brought them happiness and joy has died suddenly on the same token not everyone is going to be distraught about the death of an alleged abuser and that’s fine as well. Death isn’t an image cleanser the wrong you done while living doesn’t go away in death. You have to accept the good and the bad at the end of the day we didn’t personally know Liam. Sad situation all around cause a child is without their father, parents have to bury their child, the people who knew him having to process this loss and a victim is without justice.

Kori Riley

i think the amber heard case really showed me that ppl just be consuming passively and not with intention. mfs really thought that that lady pooped in HER OWN BED and was “just as crazy” as johnny a raging alcoholic who caused trouble everywhere he GOES!

Lilac S.

I've been grappling with some of my own friends with this. Sometimes we'll have discussions about current events and I can just tell they regurgitated whatever they saw/read on TikTok or Twitter instead of forming their own opinions. It's unfortunate because I love them down, but I can tell they're still in that phase where they care about an imaginary audience and I've outgrown that. It's like I can visibly see how those sites have affected their mental health, but they're so afraid to be out of the loop or be seen as "old," that they don't want to pull the plug, or at least take a break.

Lilac S.
>>152748697

I ain't heard the "clurb" one until yesterday on Instagram too. 😂 It's so crazy how something on the internet becomes the "new sound," one day, and next thing you know there's another phrase in its place entirely.

Dani

I hate to be one of those “two things can be true at the same time” people but in this case, I am. I’ll admit that I have been sharing non stop about Liam’s death and how much it’s affected me. Because it was such a shock that he died so horribly. And he and 1D were such a staple of my late high school/early college years. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people grieving that ending of their lives is over now. That doesn’t mean that I’m dismissing the many issues that Liam had when he was alive.

Dynasty Andrews

How well can you grieve someone that you don’t even know personally? How well can you grieve someone when all that you know about this person is what they’ve portrayed themselves to be in whatever form of media you know them from? The only thing y’all are grieving is the art that they’re no longer able to make or the image of what they meant to you, not the actual person for who they were.

Emma Chambers

First time commenter long time watcher: I really love your take on parasocial relationships as it relates to celebrity, and I was wondering how you feel about “mourning” or “grieving” political leaders? I think in one sense there’s more at stake in a loss of a political leader (ie Fred Hampton, hamas leaders, etc) and when there is assassination via the state, but in another sense the thing people are grieving is the gateway to freedom that’s been closed and not necessarily the person who they never had a personal relationship to. Not sure if this resonates but I’m curious on your thoughts !

ceeitrus

if you’ve been following any of the 1D members since they broke up , its been publicly documented that Liam was on a bit of a crash out, since 1D ended he was just in denial that no one was checking for him anymore, it’s the typical boyband/child star curse where you become irrelevant and you’re in denial about being irrelevant, you crash out and you either go to jail for something crazy or you die, I just think it’s very unfortunate in that regard bc when these kids get mega famous and they fall off, they’re in denial that they’re no longer at the peak of fame they used to be, some of them turn out fine but no one’s mentally there to pick them up, it’s a tale as old as time and it’s just really sad, I have empathy for the situation in that regard, but other than that Idgaf about Liam, so yeah it’s DEEPLY unserious ppl online are posturing as if they care like they weren’t clowning him for being a crash out when he was alive and needed help

rudi!!!
>>152786126

exactly my thoughts. it's shocking that he died so young and so suddenly, but it doesn't negate the allegations ppl were talking about a week before he passed. I'm more sad for the people he left behind and not really Liam himself, if that makes sense

ceeitrus

the “let ppl grieve” crowd get on my damn nerves and it’s weird bc they only do this shit when it concerns objectively nasty ppl, there’s this weird thing when a public figure whose done bad things dies, ppl are so quick to absolve them of everything they’ve done cus they’re dead now and I’m like….thats not how that works??? And then when the ppl they’ve negatively affected come out and give their peace, the stans be up and arms verbally assaulting them and shit and I’m like, y’all do not KNOW THESE PEOPLE, stop using death as an excuse to be an apologist, I remember when xxxtentacion died and his ex that he abused came out and gave her peace, it was just unrelenting harassment from his stans, that man has been dead for 5 years atp and to this day they’re still harrassing her and calling her a liar, completely ignoring the fact he got famous for being violent, the girl got ran off the internet and the whole ordeal made her contemplate suicide, Twitter standom when it concerns death is nothing more than them virtue signaling that they can be empathetic when they wouldn’t gaf otherwise

Noam

When u mentioned tachina Arnold I was holding my breath afraid u we’re going to tell me her being famous in Brazil was fake news. I didn’t know about any of that Diddy stuff lolll

ceeitrus

stans live in a bubble online, they live in a vacuum where they don’t have to care about anything else but the thing they’re online for specifically, so tmz posting up Liam’s dead body pops the parasocial bubble and they realize oh this is a real person that died and not just a character in my head, despite the fact dead bodies get posted up on the internet everyday and they wouldn’t gaf, they only care about the invasiveness with Liam bc he’s famous, which only further demonstrates the parasocialism online and ppls obsession with celebrities culture, y’all see grotesque terrible things online everyday and even participate in it, but Liam Payne from One Direction’s body getting posted crosses the line, it does but they be doing the same shit too, it’s so unserious 😭 and obviously they’re not going to care about the ppl in Palestine bc to them they’re faceless nobodies, but they don’t know their favorite celebrity either so there’s a disconnect here

Jacks

I love when u talk about tik tok. I’ve despised that app from the beginning and have never downloaded it. It just always felt insidious and it was alarming how many ppl will regurgitate things they’ve heard on tik tok. HOWEVER I do want to say that “in the clerb, we all fam” is from a 2014 show called Broad City 😭 TT has probably taken the quote and bastardized it like they usually do but yea that’s where it actually comes from

KRYSTAL

I'm on TikTok and yeah I stroll many videos cause I know they just spreading misinformation and they fact checking is just what another TikTok said

Mariah L.

Kenya I love this sweater!!!

Eboni Haynes

Side : Beyonce looks so hot in her last post 🥲 what allegations lol

Daria Black

TW: suicide. I have a thesis that stanning is a form of mental illness and I’ll use myself as an example. I am one of the people who cried when Liam died but I found out about the abuse like two seconds later because I haven’t paid attention to him since the break up (I literally thought he was still dating Duckie Thot). Unfortunately my love for 1D was beyond parasocial. I was going to kill myself until I discovered them. So i literally tied my entire being to them because I had “no other reason” to live. That was not normal. Obviously not everyone is that extreme but there is enough to be concerned. But there was a funny thing happening where people were shading me “how can you mourn this abuser” with a Kobe Bryant avi so to your point it’s all fun and games until it’s at your door step. At the very least I am self aware and corrected after healing my inner teen who was bruised- I knew why I was upset and shocked. But I’ll be damned if I get “called out” by someone who was trying to convince me to listen to Chris browns last album.

Ramone Paris

In the clurb, we all fam

Mariah L.

TikTok is definitely too accessible. I also think people have this mentality that because someone went through the effort of editing and making a video, they’re an authority on the topic. So you have WAYY more people willing to trust anybody’s word than if they just read a bullshit tweet or Facebook post.

Mariah L.

I’m really trying to be conscious about limiting my time on the clock app. I already decided to mostly use it for comedic purposes and animal content but jfc the consumerist shit is just trying to take over my feed as MUCH as possible. And I really hate how so many black women are falling for it!! Every day it’s addressing some bs “need” or way of living we’re being convinced we’re not doing correctly. Just nothing but African met sponge because you’re not exfoliating or bathing correctly, Stanley cup, useless kitchen gadget because you’re not storing food correctly, SHEIN/Temu quality butterfly dress, like enough!! Such a headache

Cynthia Perez

I have been trying to find the words to describe how I feel about Liam’s death. You perfectly articulated my feelings. It was shocking mainly because of he was a part of my childhood and he died in a gruesome manner. I did just continue my day. I haven’t kept up with him since “strip that down” so I learned about his abuse allegations until after his passing.

Dani
>>152786126

Yeah that totally makes sense! I feel the same way.

tay w

“he wasn’t a perfect person” baby EYE am not a perfect person but i’m not an abuser. there is a difference !!

tay w
>>152827900

and you know what, i was thinking about this earlier today and i was like well if beyonce died today i may very well be in shambles BUT you reminded me of the very important fact that literally no one was checking for liam like he was truly dust in the wind

Jina Jackson

Whew you described my mother to a tee!!! She falls for EVERYTHING online!! That’s why her ass keeps getting hacked 🤦🏽‍♀️😂

Elan Williams

"It's crazy how people will treat white bodies". HEARD‼️ Liam Payne's essentially public death was brutal. But I can't help but be confused about the shock value. Poverty and drugs go hand-in-hand - meaning it's not unusual for drug-related deaths (although they have decreased in US since last year). It's not unusual for people to turn to drugs when they're mentally unstable/ill. It's not unusual for people to turn to drugs when they don't have anyone to turn to. This shit happens all the fucking time, but I suppose chronically online people are just that ignorant to ONGOING social issues until it slaps them in the face. **edit: needed to clarify I'm not saying Black people disproportionately die from drugs compared to other races (because I do not know)!!!! But I do know Black people ARE disproportionately affected by poverty, and thus may be more likely to be involved in drug activity - whether using or selling.

Rainy Feathers

It's because Liam's body is their body. They don't see themselves in the black/brown/other bodies.

Alexis

I don't think people realize that anyone can say anything and write any article online without credentials in anything they are talking about. They are quoting stuff and not even citing their sources.

Alexis

idk ... intelligence is the ultimate currency

Skye Davis
>>152742238

i’ve deleted twitter but i really struggle with tiktok bc of all the recipes i have saved on there 💀

Yvette Lee

Where is your sweater from it’s so cute? 😍

Lavender1495

Yep that’s why I had to delete TikTok because I felt like I had to be doing these things people were doing and I had to reflect, like girl just Be you! TikTok literally sucks you IN.

ceeitrus
>>152883202

And their cited sources is stans chattin on Twitter saying nonsense 😭

ceeitrus
>>152748443

some of the stuff she says is true but the truthful stuff already be public information, and the rest is just her making up stuff based off vibes, it’s 5% truth and 95% vibes

Janais

My mom can’t stay off tik tok. I’m kind of over being constantly sold stuff by users on tik tok.

Janais

I find it strange seeing grown people on tik tok ask what products we’re using for the fall. Like why wouldn’t you want to explore your own personal style instead of looking like everyone else on tik tok.

Miguel Avila

Idc Kenya. If Britney or Mariah die, I’m grieving and calling off from work 😭

B.Darling

Tic Tok scares me. I can't explain it, but it's just not for me. I'm starting to understand why some older people just don't adapt to certain technologies. TT and AI are above me.

Monica A Laryea

As someone with common sense, I quickly realized most of my time on that app was spent debunking misinformation, blocking creators, and pointing out gimmicks. If 90% of my hour scrolling is spent watching topics be beaten to death, people lying for donations, being criminally messy, and more......it is time to go. #FREE

Monica A Laryea

How to become an influencer on tiktok in 3 seconds: guys/yall/omg WHY DIDNT ANYBODY TELL ME......[insert product or generalization].

Nicole

WE LOVE YOU KENYA! HAPPY BIRTHDAY 🥳

Yvette Lee

Happy Birthday Kenya! 🩷🩷

Jordan

Kenya I know you have said you don’t be on TikTok. But have you seen the Resillent Jenkins situation? This family living in a one bedroom with 4 going on 5 kids having them sleeping on the floor. Other people have come out and said they have kids by him.

Dee

the lifestyle creep and not being able to make your own decisions sounds so dystopian but it’s so true 😭 I think I’m like a yr and half since deleting tiktok… I’m forever outta the loop but it’s okay 👍🏾