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Robert Ulus

One of my favorite episodes! I'll just.... put some blank lines here so I don't spoil anything for your other watchers.... So, how 'bout that twist, huh? Now you know why it's been so hard to comment on your uploads, haha. Every time you notice something that doesn't make sense, we can't go 'Oh, that makes total sense, but only because of the Twist, lol.' In answer to your question, there are some subtle acting choices by Ted Danson that you only really catch on a rewatch, like the little smirk he gives in episode 1 when he first tells Eleanor she's in the Good Place. He was *really* good at playing things so that his reactions make sense both if you are in on the twist and if you're not. Of the actors, only he and Kristen Bell (Eleanor) were in on the twist from the beginning. There's actually a fun youtube video where the rest of the cast is let in on the twist right before filming this episode. Not sure if I can paste links here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bhyin0HaLU In regard to this being less-bad than actual physical torture, sure, this is probably better, at least in the short-term. But honestly, Michael's goal, as presented thus far, is not to make the most efficient torture. It's to make the most Fun torture, from the POV of the torturers. Endlessly coming up with fresh ways to fork with these four is more fun than just standing next to a torture conveyor belt, filing different people full of spiders over and over. Michael wants *artisanal* torture. Thematically, a lot of the metaplot for this whole season was a nod to philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre and his play 'No Exit', in which three people die and are in the waiting room of hell, speculating about how they'll be tortured. They spend the whole play digging up each other's secrets and how they died and eventually realize that their personalities are completely incompatible and it is complete torture to be with each other, at which point they find out they will never leave this room and this *is* their eternal torture. It's where we get the phrase 'Hell is other people.' Honestly, though, my favorite thing about this twist is that kind of a weird retroactive explanation for the whole premise of a sitcom. In a sitcom, like the Good Place, something has to happen every week that drives the plot forward, puts people in an awkward situation, and forces conflict. Now, with the reveal, we find out that these happenings weren't happenstance, but the active work of an individual, Michael, who is just really determined to fork with them. Of course, now the clown paintings make sense, because they're just there to be unpleasant for Eleanor, with a thin veneer of a plausible explanation! Oh, and speaking of the clown paintings, one of the little easter eggs the creator put in was to set this last episode entirely within Eleanor's house, so that when they spend half the episode arguing with each other about who deserves to self-sacrifice, being played for Fools by Michael, it's always against a background filled with clowns. :o)

Rebecca Blue

So, that one scene I'd watched prior to the show? Super important, you still haven't seen it yet. Meaning it's in a part of the show that the setting is already established, and I was slowly remembering that as I was watching the episodes. I actually had a bit of theory, but I didn't want to tell it because I thought I subconsciously remembered too much from that one scene I saw that it'd spoil you. Since the theory started with "The reason Michael is pretending this is the Good Place is..." Yeah, that only just got confirmed. Though, it was based on all the other neighbours being genuine and Michael not being completely evil so it's a moot point anyway. Cannot wait to actually get to that scene so I can theorise properly instead of half remembering spoilers.

Circuitdoodles

I think there’s inspiration from the play No Exit for the plot twist since “The play begins with three characters who find themselves waiting in a mysterious room. It is a depiction of the afterlife in which three deceased characters are punished by being locked into a room together for eternity. It is the source of Sartre's especially famous phrase "L'enfer, c'est les autres" or "Hell is other people" according to wikipedia

Circuitdoodles

It’s funny how Michael really want to try out this whole subtle approach to torture when all his coworkers are like “When do we bring in the lava and spiders?”

Fusionater

I think I appreciate some of the past comments more knowing the twist now. :) Frankly I look forward to rewatching the first season, it's the sort of setup that becomes better when you're in on it.