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LGBTQIA+ Mod v1.1: Gender Identities, Romantic & WooHoo Orientations, & Gameplay Impact (Patreon)

Published:
2022-06-27 23:42:59
Edited:
2022-06-28 23:56:30
Imported:
2022-06

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Content

June 28:
- added interaction 'decide to wear chest binders'
+ collab with MonoChaos:  When sims decide to use binders from the interactions of my mod, if you have MonoChaos's "accessory" binder (MC_yuAcc_FtMChestBinder), the sim will be wearing it!

- fixed the clicking of 'agender' resulting in the selection window closing, AGAIN

*V1.1: NEW FEATURES & CHANGES!

(DELETE your settings file for this mod if you are updating from v1, as there are new settings.)

- New GAMEPLAY features around Gender Affirmation and Gender Transition.
Non-medical and medical gender-affirming options, discussions, etc.
See Mod Description for more info!! 


+ collab with MonoChaos: they made surgery scars to go with my v1.1! If you download their file, and your Sim has a F to M top surgery through my mod, my mod will auto-apply one of three possible scar models to the sim.
+ Compatibility-Updated Relationship & Pregnancy Overhaul so that transitioning sims get their RPO metrics auto-adjusted.

- aromantics can now have a personal attitude towards romance

- menu revamp! To make room for current and future gameplay additions.

- new 'extra aspects'

- new cheats

- And some fixes!

NEXT UPDATE for this mod will be:
- further development of the unexpected crush system
- the 'coming out' system! :D

MOD DESCRIPTION HERE

MOD DESCRIPTION HERE

- (this is due to EA) if you change pronouns through my interactions, the change will not reflect on buffs (moodlets) until the next time there's a loading screen. They'll reflect right away on other stuff.

- Sims who are canonically non-cis/het might not be given the right identity by the auto-assign (example: Morgyn Ember.)
Fix it up manually if it came out wrong.
Pre-existing couples get assigned orientations based on their relationships, so that shouldn't be as bad in terms of 'wrong assigns'.

For some of them, I could give them a fixed auto-assign (Morgyn again haha), but I'd need to know exactly their identity etc for that, and it's not officially said anywhere.

- For anything else, see mod description.

****** PURE COMPATIBILITY QUESTIONS:

- Thanks to LeRoiDeTout, as of June 12, the incompatibilities that existed on first release of June 11 are gone. Yay and big thanks!

- Delete my standalone 'ask / tell pronouns' mod if you use this, same features are integrated in here!

- Turbodriver's WICKED WHIMS & WONDERFUL WHIMS:

(screenshot from my mod description page).

- Mc WooHoo's "No Strings WooHoo" setting is Incompatible. Note that this mod comes with its own setting that amounts to the same thing.

- No other known mods with compatibility problems / adjustments!

***** QUESTIONS OF INTEGRATION:

- Turbodriver's mods will recognize sexual orientations from this mod in their sexual attraction systems. However, note that his mods look only at CAS gender, and not gender identities from my mod. And, romantic orientations will not be looked at by his mods - their system having to do with sexual attraction.

*** If you are another modder wondering about how this will work with your mod / wanting to integrate, contact me! I can share some info and pre-built tools with you to achieve that ***

See on my website HERE.

Thanks to Frankk, Lot51, LeRoiDeTout and TwelthDoctor1 for their  invaluable python script tutorials /snippets and being there to help  when others need it!
Thanks to testers.
Thanks to MonoChaos for the collab on surgery scars!

Disclaimer: I do NOT make translations myself, nor do I review them, and am not responsible for what they contain, or how faithful they are or are not to the original material.

Français - French by Kimikosoma
Español - Spanish by Laura Martinez Barca
Italiano - Italian by Massimosims

- DELETE your settings file for this mod if you are updating from v1, as there are new settings.

- Download the .zip file and extract it. Then install in the mods folder or in one subfolder (no deeper).

- If you've installed and don't see the mod's menu on the active sim, Make sure that you have installed properly:

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NEED HELP? Check compatibility, download instructions and description links in this post. If they don't answer your question, contact me on Discord, here in comments or messages, or through the contact form on my website.

Find Index of All Mods here.

If you notice anything off please contact me! Happy to help and fix things if they need fixing.


DELETE your settings file for this mod if you are updating from v1, as there are new settings.

Comments

Anonymous

I don't suppose there's a reason top surgery made my sim shorter and shrunk his chin? It's easily fixable in CAS but still, extremely weird

Anonymous
>>100199216

Update: Upon exiting CAS, I found that all my moodlets and sim's icon in the bottom corner had broken. This only fixed after removing the mod, loading the game, then closing and readding it. This was the only mod I removed to fix the problem.

Anonymous
>>100199216

And for some reason when I readded it, the only settings that didn't save were who he was out to and everyone's gender identity?? Literally everyone is questioning their identity now, which is a lot. Like I mean, get it I guess, but still. All their orientations saved, and I didn't change any settings.

Anonymous

I have a question. For some reason when I apply the LGBTQIA+ Hangout lot trait to a bar my notification wall gets spammed with the special nights schedule every now and then and the same thing happens when the special night is going on. It's not that big of a problem and I'm not too bothered by it but I thought I should let you know.

lumpinou
>>100262966

Hi, my guess is other sims from the played household are joining the outing and causing it to appear, and / or your played sim is hovering on the lot boundaries and basically considered to be leaving / coming back / etc, re trigerring it. Any of that sound possible? 🤔

Anonymous
>>100262966

That second option is definitely it. I'm remodeling all the lots in the worlds I have and taking pictures of them but the bar I made I wanted to get a picture of it at night so I was on triple speed with my sim going back and forth within the lot boundaries. Thank you!

Anonymous

I made my sim aromantic, asexual, romance-favorable, and sex-favorable. Yet, despite being romance/sex-favorable, many romance/woohoo options are greyed out, and romantic/woohoo actions attempted by others are always rejected by them. What's the point of the -favorable options if they're going to behave as if they're -averse?

lumpinou
>>100503497

Hi, Rejection should be a 10% when asked in that case. Once refused, while the refusal moodlet is active rejection is systematic, so of course one must wait till the rejection moodlet is gone. At any point barring that case, they can also offer it themselves which does not come with any refusal etc. Refusal in this mod always shows a notification explaining why. If no notice, the refusal is not from this mod. So that's an important thing to check :) Aro in this mod accepts romance only in qpr situations atm so that is another thing to keep in mind. That's sth I'll probably change onwards. As for grey out feel free to turn if off in settings. Albeit more developed than the game's own grey out system, it can still struggle with cases like this one. If refusal is constantly systematic, I'd try with no other mods in and report back

Anonymous
>>100503497

I ended up having to set my sim as pansexual and panromantic because I couldn't get around the rejection without changing universal settings. I want orientations to impact gameplay, but I'm disappointed with how little selecting "favorable" actually does. When my sim is set as a romance/sex-favorable aroace, they reject their wife because "this sim does not meet their attraction requirements" (paraphrased), despite the "favorable" setting. It sucks, because this sim is supposed to represent me (I'm aroace and in a romantic relationship irl). It sounds like my sims will have to divorce and become queerplatonic partners in order to interact romantically, which makes the "favorable" setting pointless. My sim should have romantic and sexual freedom by default with the "favorable" setting. It doesn't make sense for them to reject sims on the basis of a lack of attraction, when attraction isn't meant to dictate their favorability in the first place.

lumpinou
>>100503497

Hi, are you talking about WW stuff or game stuff? WW has its own refusal systems. This seems to confuse a lot of people, so, I need to know that to know the answer :) But basically WW sex requires compatibility in romance and in sex and that's all on WW's side not mine. For aro in my mod and for the game, I actually re checked it at patch day, it should accept fine almost all the time if they're favorable, regardless of what type of relationship is established

Anonymous
>>100503497

I guess it might be Wonderful Whims then, but that's odd, because I never had this issue with WW prior to downloading this LGBTQIA+ mod. I'll try without WW.

lumpinou
>>100503497

When I say WW I mean wicked whims not wonderful whims. But trying with no other mods would still be instructive to see if there are conflicts. And also telling me exactly what interactions are used and exactly what pop up happens. Separately for Woohoo and for romance stuff. Thanks.

kawaii_kitsune077

I didnt get any message from this mod.

Anonymous
>>100503497

It's still an issue without other mods. "[Sim 1] is not interested in romance with [Sim 2] due to being aromantic" and "[Sim 1] is not interested in WooHoo with [Sim 2] due to non-compatible sexual orientations" both continue to show up despite my sim being romance-favorable and woohoo-favorable. They won't stop rejecting advances from their wife.

Anonymous
>>100503497

It seems like selecting "asexual woohoo-favorable" just makes the sim's sexual orientation mimic whatever gender they're romantically attracted to. If they're romantically attracted to women, they're okay with sex with women. If they're romantically attracted to men, they're okay with sex with men. If they're biromantic or panromantic, they're okay with sex with any gender. If they're aromantic, they're not okay with sex with anyone, even if they're woohoo-favorable. Selecting "aromantic romance-favorable" does the same thing in reverse. If they're sexually attracted to women, they're okay with romance with women. If they're sexually attracted to men, they're okay with romance with men. If they're bisexual or pansexual, they're okay with romance with any gender. If they're asexual, they're not okay with romance with anyone, even if they're romance-favorable. I think this is where the problem stems from.

lumpinou
>>100503497

Hi, this is actually a WW thing and not my mod :) My mod sets the cas gender orientation for Sims. WW reads that, and requires that Sims have matching romantic and sexual orientation to allow sex. Asexual in the game and therefore in WW is considered non matching. Same for aro. In my mod, it is matching. My mod will let Sims Woohoo so long as their sexual orientation matches. I hope that makes sense!

Anonymous
>>100503497

I already said that I removed WW, and it's still a problem. It says that asexual woohoo-favorable is incompatible for woohoo, and also says that aromantic romance-favorable is incompatible for romance.

Anonymous
>>100503497

I ask that you please playtest this. Set two sims as a married couple, make Sim 1 aroace and romance/woohoo-favorable, and make Sim 2 perform romantic and sexual advances on them. Even when the advances *do* succeed, there is a notification stating that they're incompatible.

lumpinou
>>100503497

Hi again, just several more of your messages that hadn't gone through. The Patreon app eats up comments, sorry for the mess and illogical responses. This mod has been playtested at great length by me and testers already and we've not had such issues that I can recall. I have a Woohoo favorable demiromantic ace couple in game and all has been working for them as usual. However they are not aro so that's a bit different. I see now that you said you tried with no other mods in at all. If such is the case, we can rule out interference. Here's the next idea: it's best to test separately also for ace + alloro, aro + allo sexual, and then aro ace to pinpoint exactly where things don't behave as expected for your sims. That gives me critical data to check up both in game and in code. Thanks. (side note I am going to bed so I'm not looking at things until day again, so don't worry about delays :))

Anonymous

I love this mod so much! It's added a lot more depth to my gameplay. I just got my first genderfluid sim though and am having some issues with the genderfluid-specific features. I think the idea is great, especially with the changing pronouns and outfits option. Once my sim had the trait, they started out "NB-leaning" (gender-neutral outfit and they/them pronouns) and everything was going smoothly. While they slept I got an alert that their fluid identity had shifted to "fem-leaning" and they went about their next day using she/her and wearing the fem outfits. This was all going great until I noticed they hadn't shifted in a few days and I was still curious. There's an option to manually select the identity the sim is leaning toward so I used that and input "2" for masc and nothing happened. There wasn't a notification and the pronouns and outfit didn't change. The manual selection option always displays a "now" message for the way the sim is currently leaning and it did say masc, but that was the only difference I noticed. I switched it manually to NB-leaning and the result was the same. When I switched it back to fem-leaning, it gave me the alert that the pronouns and expression had "changed". Is there a way I can get it to work normally and auto-switch to any identity and not just fem? This sim is afab so maybe that has something to do with it? I'm not sure; any help is appreciated :)

lumpinou
>>102612621

Hi, It can normally switch to any, it just doesn't always switch, it can take a day or several or not change for longer then change. Not sure I totally get what you are saying about the manual change but I'll check it up when I have some time

Anonymous
>>102612621

By the manual change I mean clicking on the sim>orientation and identity>decisions on genderfluidity expression>(I already have "reflect identity shifts through gender expression" enabled, and the"change expression" option only shows up when "reflect identity" is enabled)>"Genderfluid: Change gender expression (now: X-leaning)". In place of the X is either "Fem", "Masc", or "NB". When I click that option it brings me to an input feature called "Genderfluid: Current Gender Expression" and prompts me to input 0,1,2,3, or 4 to indicate "Nothing", "remove", "fem", "masc", and "NB". When I input 2 for "fem" it gives me an alert that the identity has shifted to fem, but it doesn't do that when I input masc or NB. As far as I can tell, "remove" just disables the "reflect identity" option, and "nothing" keeps it enabled but removes the "change expression" option.

Anonymous

hi, it seems like this mod conflicts with your dating app mod and private practice?

Anonymous

hey I have a question!! i am planning a lets play where one of my sims is rejected by their phobic sister. unfortunately I accidently had him come out before I toggled the "allow negative interactions" switch in the settings menu, so when he came out, she was fully supportive, which completely conflicts with the storyline I was going for. i can't seem to reverse it and have him come out again, what can I do?

lumpinou
>>105109129

You'd have to remove the relationship status with cheats and then they could do it again :)

Whyarewestillhere

Hi there! So I just downloaded the new version of this mod, but now my Meet and Mingle mod doesn't work at all. I tried doing what you said and deleting the global settings thing out of my saves, but all that did was delete all the orientation and identity settings I had for all my Sims. 😅

lumpinou
>>105658159

Hi, you can get your setting file back from your computer bin if you want. That file however doesn't contain your sim's orientations, it contains only the mod settings, and its deletion cannot remove anything loaded on your sims :) only thing that can do that is saving without the mod installed. Meet&Mingle isn't available in the Lgbtqia Mod anymore because it has been Expanded and improved and became its own mod in the RPO collection

Whyarewestillhere
>>105658159

Ohhhhh. I failed to mention, but I did at some point do that too just to see if that would fix anything. Speaking of the Meet & Mingle app, I did download that too on its own as well. How do I access it in game?

Alysen

Hi there, So I have a stupid question. My teen sims are no longer getting the lgbtqia pie menu option. Is this a change? or a bug, or am I just imagining that they had this option? O.O''. I did remove the 'localthumbcache' in my sims folder, and I removed the old mod and updated it with the new. but it didn't help. Thank you for your time :)

Anonymous

hi! i've downloaded the mod and followed all the steps but the pie menu still doesn't show up for me? I have MCC and other mods installed and they seem to run fine--any help would be appreciated!

Anonymous
>>106070736

checking on my own sim! I don't have an actions button when I click on them

lumpinou
>>106070736

OK. This is all really hard to check via a platform that doesn't allow images and files, so, if you could come over to the discord server, then we can check more :)

Anonymous

I have been waiting to download this until it was out for a while and now is so the time because I just saw someone else using it. Then realized I wasn't a patreon to you?! I use so many of your mods I feel like a CRIMINAL for waiting for them to be public release. Love your work!!

Anonymous

I don't know if I am doing something wrong but there is no option to come out.

lumpinou
>>108687112

If you don't see it for a specific sim, re do their assignments with the 'quick assignments' menu and it should un glitch itself