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43 - Climate Inaction & the US as History's #1 Human Caging Machine ft. Alec Karakatsanis (Patreon)

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2021-11-04 00:03:41
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43 - Climate Inaction & the US as History's #1 Human Caging Machine ft. Alec Karakatsanis

Hi everone, David and Matt are joined by Alec Karakatsanis @equalityAlec to discuss the american injustice system.

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Carson H

On the question of police reform, I take Alec's point that "reform" rhetoric has often been coopted to the most perverse ends. That being said, "abolish" and even "defund" rhetoric tends to have very little purchase among the general population (including among the poor in whose name it is typically endorsed by more middle-class folks), potentially leading to other forms of cooptation (i.e., neoliberal austerity/privatization) or simply nowhere (since no one really believes that the police-function can be abolished in the context of a class society, and therefore it is seen as pure utopianism absent a revolutionary subject capable of abolishing capitalism as a whole, etc.). I think that demands for serious structural police reform could be more effective if there were a serious social-democratic movement to fight for it alongside other kinds of structural reforms. I think the left should be wary of putting the cart before the horse and alienating the very people who we need on our side the most (i.e., not downwardly mobile degree-holders).

Anonymous

Great guest. Alec speaks with a clarity that reminds me so much of Michael, Wolff, and Joshua Kahn Russell.