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Range week and the rifle qualification are the cornerstone of any Soldier or Marine's indoctrination.   

This is vital to train service members to proficiently operate their main weapon system, but more importantly to have the confidence in engaging an enemy at distance with the same rifle that they will eat, sleep, carry, and grow comfortable with.   

INDOCTRINATION is the key word here.  It is extremely valuable for a military commander to have a force believing that they can neutralize targets well outside of a weapon system's capabilities; remember close hits still suppress an enemy for a friendly unit's maneuver... but what happens when this indoctrination goes into the civilian world, where it has less useful application? How relevant is the indoctrination and subsequent qualification process?   None of this is to suggest that the accomplishment of expert qualification or the ability to connect on targets at 500 yards with iron sights is something to scoff at.  

These are extremely relevant proficiency standards.  But to reiterate, everything must be kept in context as we continue to explore the effectiveness and capabilities of the various firearms and cartridges we test on this show.  

***YES WE KNOW THE USMC USES THE SCORING SYSTEM*** hits on the paper in white = 2 points leading to 5 points if you hit in black. The 500y portion is scored 10 shots in 10 minutes for 50 points of the 250 points overall. Which means if you only hit white for all the 500y shots, technically you can still make "expert" (220/250) if you do well on the 200-300y portion. 

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I qualified EXPERT.... what does that mean? [Feat. Bloke On The Range]

Range week and the rifle qualification are the cornerstone of any Soldier or Marine's indoctrination. This is vital to train service members to proficiently operate their main weapon system, but more importantly to have the confidence in engaging an enemy at distance with the same rifle that they will eat, sleep, carry, and grow comfortable with. INDOCTRINATION is the key word here. It is extremely valuable for a military commander to have a force believing that they can neutralize targets well outside of a weapon system's capabilities; remember close hits still suppress an enemy for a friendly unit's maneuver... but what happens when this indoctrination goes into the civilian world, where it has less useful application? How relevant is the indoctrination and subsequent qualification process? None of this is to suggest that the accomplishment of expert qualification or the ability to connect on targets at 500 yards with iron sights is something to scoff at. These are extremely relevant proficiency standards. But to reiterate, everything must be kept in context as we continue to explore the effectiveness and capabilities of the various firearms and cartridges we test on this show. ***YES WE KNOW THE USMC USES THE SCORING SYSTEM*** hits on the paper in white = 2 points leading to 5 points if you hit in black. The 500y portion is scored 10 shots in 10 minutes for 50 points of the 250 points overall. Which means if you only hit white for all the 500y shots, technically you can still make "expert" (220/250) if you do well on the 200-300y portion. For your convenience, you can just copy and paste these links to respond to anyone with our video (especially useful for influencers who have to respond a million of the same messages along these lines). We look forward to the ensuing energetic conversation. --“Back in the day, we used to hit 500 yard targets with iron sights all day.” -USMC Target size matters: https://youtu.be/SSaZUEEgRxU?t=84 SF units don't care about making a 500y hit with iron sights on a jeep-sized target: https://youtu.be/SSaZUEEgRxU?t=719 --“I qualified expert in the Army” -US Army This is the size of your target: https://youtu.be/SSaZUEEgRxU?t=84 I hope you didn’t mean ALT-C: https://youtu.be/SSaZUEEgRxU?t=209 SF units don't care about basic rifle qual: https://youtu.be/SSaZUEEgRxU?t=719 --"I could hit 900yard with an SLR/L1A1, 9/10 shots. All day.” -Brit. Army/ Royal Marines BOTR Response: https://youtu.be/SSaZUEEgRxU?t=544 --“The M16A1 had low light sights, not two-position (long range) sights” -U.S. Mil Response: https://youtu.be/SSaZUEEgRxU?t=637 We have a discount for Slate Black Industries MLOK accessories! 👉 www (dot) slateblackindustries (dot) com Discount code: 9HOLE Shopping with this link costs you nothing, but provides us with equipment: https://www.amazon.com/?tag=sbi09-20 Tasteful merchandise for the discerning firearms enthusiast 👉 https://teespring.com/stores/9-hole-reviews This video's editing by Agency Communications LLC Music by Tyops (THANKS!!!) __________________________________________________________________ We love mail: 9 Hole Reviews 21175 Tomball Pkwy. No. 480 Houston, Texas 77070

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Anonymous

To add onto a previous comment, I think that the Marine Corps basic rifle qualification, does a better job at building a foundation for long range shooting. At least, in my own experience. I wasn't in the Army, so I don't have an informed opinion on that. But, if I'm being honest with myself, I didn't become a true "expert" until I got more specialized training, and more practice behind the rifle.

Anonymous

Their all idiots!! YES HILARIOUS LOL. BUT THEY WILL TELL U TO U'R FACE " WELL YEP I SHOT THAT THEIR BUCK AAT 810 YARRDS. I LOOK IN AMAZEMENT. THEY REALY BELIEVE THEIR BULLSHIT. A 55 GRAIN BULLET WONT PENATRATE ( TOUGHER HIDE THAN MOST PEOPLE THINK)A DEER @ 500 YARDS LET ALONE 800, IF DID WOULDNT HURT THEM. I PICKED 3 77GRAIN BULLETS FROM A WHITE TAIL MY 14YR OLD SON SHOT FROM AROUND 250( SO HE SAYS) & I PUT HER DOWN W/308 @ 75YRDS & FOUND THE 3 BULLETS. HE SAID HE MISSED SHE DIDN'T MOVE. AFTER I MADE HIM GO BACK OUT & TRACK HER DOWN. 800 LAUGH UNCONTROLLABLY OUT LOUD!! HALF MY FAMILY IS FROM WEST OF COLLEGE STATION & OTHER HALF IS FROM MIDLAND , SO I KNOW U CANT SEE 125YARDS IN EAST TEXAS UNLESS CLEARED FOREST FIELD. NICE SIZE DEER IN EAST TX. COMPARED TO HILLCOUNTRY Deer though. A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF REAL TRAINING . EVERY MARINE IS A RIFLEMAN