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It's about time we had "The Talk" (RE: "Aging-Up") (Patreon)

Published:
2020-07-06 21:45:05
Imported:
2021-11

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Anyone who's commissioned me, or gave to my Patreon, or are thinking of commissioning me in the future should read this carefully and take note: 

--I have a serious message for all of you.  This is a tough decision but I've put it off for too long.  It's time to come clean and make some changes.

I'm sure most of you have seen a lot of talk about a particular subject matter from the kink-art community in the past year or so, but I can assure everyone this has been an issue that's bothered me since I began drawing kink art.  Specifically--underage characters involved in kink art. Now I'm not trying to single out any person or persons, I don't really believe anyone who's drawn or commissioned kink related content, and/or still does, is instantly a pedophile or anything like that. I am also aware of "aging up" characters (which I've done) but to be honest I don't see that as an acceptable excuse any more--in fact I kinda never really did.  I was always uncomfortable with it, but I still went ahead with it anyway without acknowledging it, because I needed the money.  In retrospect I should have turned it down or asked for changes.  If this ever bothered you personally, I am sorry and it's not gonna happen again.

You may have seen me bring this subject up before but then not act on it--I should have.  It's time to stop kicking this can down the road and put my foot down.  This is for the sake of my mental health.   

From now on I will not draw "aged-up" characters in expansion/kink art if they're not canonically 18 or older, regardless of whether or not the art involves sex or nudity.  I also won't do any characters that ARE of age, yet are drawn to look underage.  I will reject any commission or Patreon reward requests that do so.  Please take note of any character's age and take the time looking it up BEFORE sending me a commission request. 

--Now I know I hear a lot of counterarguments to this:

"They're 18 if the artist says they're 18"

"It's not technically porn"

"It's not real/only a drawing"

"Age of consent laws differ depending on region", etc, etc...

I'm not trying to dismiss those statements or say anything negative or judgmental about people who say/believe that, I'm just saying I personally am making a choice not to do it any more.  It always gave me a badly anxious feeling in the pit of my stomach even thinking about it (I'm feeling it right now while typing this).  I'm not doing this to "avoid getting in trouble" or kicked off any platform. This doesn't have anything to do with the rules and TOS of Deviantart, Patreon, FA, or any similar site, or any recent "crackdowns", or any other artist or user who has recently decided to do this. This is something I've had an issue with PERSONALLY, and for quite a while.  I am under no outside pressure to do this. This is MY choice.

If you're one of the people who've commissioned/patreoned something like this before, PLEASE don't feel bad, or think that I don't like you or don't want to do business with you any more. I don't think there's anything wrong with you, never did.

I also realize this is going to really limit a lot of the characters I can draw--a lot of them characters that I really like. It counts out many Sonic characters, anime characters, etc. but I just have to deal with it and stick to my principles.  I hope you all understand.

--You might be thinking, does this mean I'll be taking down old art?  As of right now, I haven't decided.  I don't know if I'll end up taking things down or not, seeing as how a lot of the art is stuff someone paid for and it might not be fair.  We'll see how things go.

I thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your support. 

--RJS

Comments

ElCid

...What constitutes "drawn to look underage" though, and what if a character's age has never been confirmed? We shouldn't have to go wiki-creeping to make sure every character is a 100% confirmed adult AND ensure they can't possibly be claimed to "look" like a kid. By some sites' terms of service, for example, MIDNA is a child because she's two feet tall and has small boobs.

Seadog Driftwood (Casey)

It's a tricky subject you've addressed, and if you don't feel comfortable depicting it, you're entirely within your rights not to depict it. Artists are people, not automata; you have no obligation to accept a commission or request that puts you ill at ease. I applaud your resolve on this.

Anonymous

It looks as if the Eto Rangers character you drew for me is listed as a teenager (had to find that out at the bottom of a fanwiki, sheesh), but I can't find her actual age, (given it's an anime, she's drawn older than she actually is). However complex the circumstances, sorry if that transaction felt awkward for you. I'll do better research in the future.

royaljellysandwich
>>39894626

I never even heard of the show or the character before then, and I didn't detect anything suspicious. This is part of what makes this issue so complicated, really.

royaljellysandwich
>>39893353

That's the really tricky part. Stuff like that is completely subjective and there's no real concrete answer, it's seemingly left up to the whims and feelings of the individual seeing it. I mean, *I'd* still draw Midna because I don't get vibes like that from her at all. But the thing is there are people that do, and you can't really argue with a feeling. That's why this a tough subject to contend with. Wikis aren't always dependably accurate either.

ElCid
>>39893353

Which to me seems to add up to "Just go ahead and draw whoever", honestly.

Coolcat

If you don't feel comfortable drawing it, then you shouldn't have to draw it. It doesn't get any simpler than that. You do you man.

Kazecat

I respect your decision to do this.

ElCid
>>39894626

Honestly, that's a big reason why people should stop getting so riled up over fictional characters' ages, ESPECIALLY anime ones. Like, my god, would you ever guess if I didn't tell you directly that Honey-senpai from Ouran Highschool Host Club and Jotaro Kujo are both 17? And let's be honest, most of the people who'd give you crap for drawing a character under the magical age of 18 are likely people who draw and get off to this exact stuff, it's like those My Hero Academia "fans" who freak out over Momo's tits and then drool over Deku x Bakugou softcore doujins.