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On what comes after human rights.

Juliano Fiori, essayist and director of Alameda Institute, joins us to talk about catastrophism and organising around "the end". We discuss:

  • What was humanitarianism, and why was it the "last utopia"?
  • What does humanitarianism look like in an era of multipolarity?
  • Does Western liberal democracy have any gas left in it? What should we defend?
  • What politics are generated by the prevailing sense of anxiety and melancholia?
  • If modernity is over, do we need to reject all progressivism?
  • And how do we orient around catastrophe without falling into the trap of emergency politics?

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Demian-Noah Niehaus

Really liked this one. Interesting how the episode had a more melancholic, searching mood than usual. Appropriate to seal 2023, I'd say.

Andrea

I can assure Phil that there was no sense of hope for a maintenance of social standards and personal/family financial security in Italy with the beginning of the eurocrisis of 2012. If anything, how the inflation crisis of the last 2 years have been lived in Italy was as the continuation of a downward trend in life expectations. I am actually quite surprised how normal the current crisis appears in Italy. Also, cheap money was never a thing that actually impacted most people in Italy, contrary to Spain or Greece in the pre eurocrisis years for example. And it certainly was not after that. It is also debatable there is an actual crunch of cheap money outside of southern Europe, as I wrote in a previous comment.