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Map Improvement Help Wanted (Patreon)

Published:
2020-07-05 15:51:10
Imported:
2021-07

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Hey everyone! We're currently attempting to fix all the issues with our previously released maps.

We've found a good way to lower the file size of the maps, so our goal is to re-release all the maps with a smaller file size and also with a consistent naming pattern, separated into Gridded and Gridless folders. Hopefully this will make using the maps a lot easier!

If you want to help, out here's a link to a Trello page, any errors you've discovered just add to the comments of that map's card.

Errors might be things like a gridded map named 'gridless' or a map having a gridded variation but not gridless, etc.

Thanks to everyone who has already submitted errors already! Together we can make our maps a lot better!


P.S. We're currently running a contest on Twitter in which you can win a copy of Humblewood. Please take part! :)

Comments

Michael Gasser

While I understand wanting to standardize and put things in separate folders. Can I request the the file names in the gridded and gridless folders please be differentiated? I personally prefer a flat directory structure for each map. While that may not be for everyone can you at least differentiate the filename so it is easier to flatten the structure without needing to rename the files first?

Karew

Echoing Michael's sentiment, I prefer a single flat folder with maps named X-Gridded and X-Ungridded or something instead of lots of nested folders

Sebastian Will

I wrote a script that goes through all my downloaded ZIP archives and re-creates the filenames in an ordered and consistent manner. That does not mean that it is without errors, but it gave me at least a good start on using them in a VTT. I am extracting information based on your existing filenames, trying to guess the most reasonable grid sizes, find a common filename based on either directory or individual files and deduct additional tags based on the remaining file name. This results e.g. in City_Market_Place-[Cat Shark Haul,Day]-[G:N-23x36@140,46x72@70] City_Market_Place-[Cat Shark Haul,Night]-[G:Y-23x36@140,46x72@70] Note: This allows me to filter for gridded (G:Y) and non-gridded (G:N) versions. A plain G/GL cannot be filtered easily, as "G" would catch both "G" and "GL" tags I can provide the extracted data if you are interested in receiving them. Additionally, I am extracting the most dominant background color from a 20px frame area of each image, image dimensions etc as a JSON file related to each battlemap: { "file": "CityMarketPlace_CatSharkHaul_Day_Gridded.jpg", "path": "/my/path/to/the/archives/$5 rewards/", "size": 2612505, "type": "jpg", "isGridded": true, "name": "City Market Place", "tags": [ "Cat Shark Haul", "Day" ], "width": 3220, "height": 5040, "grid": [ { "x": 23, "y": 36, "size": 140 }, { "x": 46, "y": 72, "size": 70 } ], "backgroundColor": "#59524b", "hash": "1000001101011101000001110011110110001000010010110100111111001001" } I would love to see a common standard in battlemap filenames. I know that there are plenty of creators on patreon, but a common ground would make it so much easier for us end-users.

czepeku
>>39819346

Yeah we'll definitely do this. For the newest maps we were using G and GL for the filenames to differentiate that as well as the folders themselves.

czepeku
>>39838403

The issue with a common naming standard is that everyone wants the standard to be something different. Almost every patron i've spoken to have suggested something different that'd make it easier for them and they're often conflicting. I think it'd be near impossible to decide on something that'd be best for everyone. As for catching Gridded and Gridless, wouldn't the nested folders help speed that up?

czepeku
>>39822892

If we have nested folders there'd only be one level, which is for Gridded/Gridless. From speaking to a lot of patrons it seems that people exclusively use one or the other. Very few patrons seem to use both, which is why we want to make it easier to separate them.

Malcolm Wolter

Separating these out is a much welcome change! Thanks so much for doing this!

Michael Gasser
>>39822892

On a windows machine you can put a * filter in the top level folder then cut, remove the filter and paste. Pretty easy to collapse the file structure presuming the names are already differentiated.

Michael Gasser
>>39838403

I would echo that everyone likes something different. I for one would filter out the 23x36@140 stuff because for me it just makes the file name much longer and more cryptic and I can figure it out very easily.

Sebastian Will
>>39838403

Putting all battlemaps in the same directory allows filtering by partials strings in every application I know. Having subdirectories is viable in e.g. Windows Explorer, but not in e..g Foundry VTT directly. I can manage with my script. I feel plenty of people cannot do that as effortlessly. I understand that there are many tastes and it was just a proposal. @Michael Gassner: For me, the ideal filename includes everything so my VTT can automatically adjust the settings when setting the background image. I do not need beautiful, but useful filenames that help me to run my games better and more effortlessly. But I can understand where you are coming from, and everyone's process or preparing is different.

Anonymous

I would be good if these categories you're talking about were broken into different zip files and named, so I don't need to download huge ZIPs of every file, only to then delete half of them before adding to my collection.

Anonymous

Plz make sure that each map have a grid number for hight and length

Ryan Glowczewski

While the file size under 5mb is superhelpful, especially as a free account Roll20 user, man I still want full res, high quality versions... please dont send away your originals.

czepeku
>>39933564

The quality will stay the same and i won't be able to guarantee all the files will be below 5mb. We've been using a new way to compress the files for the last 3 map packs and no one has mentioned any loss of quality. :)

JonDemand

Just pledged this week to help out with some roll20 campaigns, and i love this art style, just discovered one which i was dropping in today though one of the Mid Flight Dragon maps, not sure of the others, Dragonmidflight_rain_ungridded has a grid on it, so naming might be a bit mixed up on those maps